The High Republic was a new era to explore
I forget which era... I never read any of the stuff.
But do we really want them to explore even more eras in this current era of Star Wars?
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The High Republic was a new era to explore
I forget which era... I never read any of the stuff.
But do we really want them to explore even more eras in this current era of Star Wars?
Jaenera Targaryen
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It was already partly filled-out in Legends, with several of the Banite Lords and the highlights of their reign being detailed. As for other eras...no, I don't. Personally, I want to see more of the Alsakan-Coruscant conflicts, to say nothing of the Pius Dea Crusades. Hell, a TV adaptation of the Great Sith War would be nice, SWTOR did a nice job rendering Freedon Nadd's armor on a 10-year plus-old engine, imagine what more money and modern graphics could do to the rest of the era's imagery.
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut...! I don't trust Disney with anything anymore.
Skallagrim
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Not even a little. I want this continuity terminated.
This has been a great experiment demonstrating what the actual fans don't want. (And a few examples of what the fans do like.)
Someone sane could use the lessons learned here to actually make something good. Maybe one day, we'll get to see that. But only after the Disneyverse perishes.
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Jaenera Targaryen
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If Legends ever gets restarted, I want to see Dawn of the Jedi completed. We barely got past the prelude to the Force Wars before it got canceled, with the Rakata only just finding where Tython is. I want to see the Je'daii show their stripes as the superpowered grandparents of the Jedi and the Sith, and how they downgraded after beating back the Rakata.
I also want to see Legacy continued, especially since it ended on a thrice-damned cliffhanger with Ania getting ambushed by...someone. Also, I refuse to accept that wannabe Darth Wredd somehow succeeded in luring out and destroying all of the One Sith. Darth Talon, Darth Maladi, and Darth Nihl wouldn't have been that stupid, and should have just looked on with a smile as Darth Wredd got rid of the chaff for them. I want to see more of Empress Marasiah reshaping the galaxy, and prove her talents in peace as she already proved them in war, as befits a descendant of Leia Skywalker.
Yes, Leia Skywalker. Don't forget, the Fel Dynasty is a matrilineal offshoot of the Skywalkers through Jaina Solo, the Sword of the Jedi.
...fucking hell, this is making me seethe, at just how pathetic Disney made the Skywalkers.
I also want to see Legacy continued, especially since it ended on a thrice-damned cliffhanger with Ania getting ambushed by...someone. Also, I refuse to accept that wannabe Darth Wredd somehow succeeded in luring out and destroying all of the One Sith. Darth Talon, Darth Maladi, and Darth Nihl wouldn't have been that stupid, and should have just looked on with a smile as Darth Wredd got rid of the chaff for them. I want to see more of Empress Marasiah reshaping the galaxy, and prove her talents in peace as she already proved them in war, as befits a descendant of Leia Skywalker.
Yes, Leia Skywalker. Don't forget, the Fel Dynasty is a matrilineal offshoot of the Skywalkers through Jaina Solo, the Sword of the Jedi.
...fucking hell, this is making me seethe, at just how pathetic Disney made the Skywalkers.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
Modern Star Wars is the ur-example of what happens to a thing when it is placed in the charge of people who do not understand, nor care for it.
Indeed you could use that example for many things these days, not limited to nations themselves.
Indeed you could use that example for many things these days, not limited to nations themselves.
Same with Doctor Who.
You know the guy who took over from Moffat, Chibnall? He wanted to "deconstruct" Doctor Who from the get-to. It was literally in his pitch to the BBC exectutives.
Well, congratulations to that utter twat: He did it with that Timeless Child and Spy Master shit, and he shit on the entire show's canon (that's over eighty years' worth). All because a middling writer/director wanted to make a mark.
Combine that with going full woke with a female Doctor (with Jodie having feminist leanings), and you've got the situation Doctor Who's in now: Using talent from the show's golden age (Tennant, Tate, and Davies) to try to lure watchers back in for a few specials... and then replace him with a Black guy who makes being gay a key part of his identity.
Yeah, it's not going to end well. smh
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
Oh poor old Dr Who. It conquered the world in the 2000s and 2010s (although I’d argue Moffat did more than his own fair share of the damage) and now continues its death spiral.
However, it’s not quite as buggered as Star Wars is. Dr Who has been here before back in the 1980s and got canned for two decades as a result. Yet it’s a resilient format that can regenerate and come back later. Star Wars doesn’t have that luxury; the last opportunity to get the original cast back together was blown and we are now only left with the wreckage of the Disneyverse.
Moffat was incompetent compared to Davies, but his problem was that although he had good ideas, his execution of them sucked. Badly.
Chibnall is just a fucking hack that should stick to writing soap operas.
Skallagrim
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Cross-posting from the Meme Video Thread:
"Darth Jar Jar, confirmed!"
We're literally nine seconds in, and this fucking guy pronounces "Qui-Gon" as KEY-Gon.
I'm out.
What? People pronounce his name as KEY-Gon? That's impossible. Do they not have ears?
*listens*
What the Sithspit is this?! Now I can't unhear it!
Jar Jar being Sidious' master would've been one hell of a fucking twist, especially if these hints had been scattered across the first and second films (with Sidious murdering him in the third film).
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Yeah…
Now that I think about it, I've actually been curious as to what a "serious" Darth Jar Jar storyline would look like myself? So far, all I've seen are parodies and crackfics, which eventually get old after a while.
Blasterbot
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He does it multiple times. Key-Gon is great. 9/10 troll right there.
For one thing, the charade of canon Jar Jar's bumbling and friendly persona would abruptly drop, giving both the audience and the in-universe characters whiplash, and we'd likely have a Vitiate-like character on our hands.
No "Me'sa Jar-Jar Binks!", but an articulate, cold, and calculated voice.
Typhonis
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"Palpatine, you really should have known better. You really should have...then again if you were as wise as I was you would have realized that the antidote to the poison, you ingested, was actually its second part. "
"Such a shame. But the Separatists were a sneaky lot and I'm certain Anakin will blossom under my tutelage. With your death, the shockwaves will be lethal and the Republic will fall like a house of cards. Taking the Jedi order with them. Then a new Age of the Sith will dawn."
"Such a shame. But the Separatists were a sneaky lot and I'm certain Anakin will blossom under my tutelage. With your death, the shockwaves will be lethal and the Republic will fall like a house of cards. Taking the Jedi order with them. Then a new Age of the Sith will dawn."
Typhonis
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Jar Jar looked at the item in his hand. It was a communicator. Above in the space around Coruscant the fleets fought each other. A small smile graced his face as he opened it up. The first beep told him it was active. The second acknowledged that he was in touch with his target. He spoke only four words in his natural smooth tone of voice, "Execute order 66."
On the other end, he heard a simple, "roger roger."
He closed the communicator and tossed it off the balcony's edge. Then looked upwards watching as a star fell from the heavens.
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In orbit the engines of a Lucrehulk hit full burn. The droid crew obeyed the legal orders that had been given. The massive ship pitched forwards and then down. The shields burned red as it entered the atmosphere.
Within minutes it was hurtling down like the bolt of an angry god. No one was aware it was doing so purposely. Thinking it too was a victim of the battle raging about.
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Jedi Knight Tel-Rey Olson looked up. Her danger sense had been pinging for hours. The battle drew attention to it but it was to be expected. A stray shot landed nearby cratering the grounds around the Jedi Temple. She turned to head back inside to oversee the latest group of wounded when her senses screamed at her. She turned to see the massive shape of a Lucrehulk as it tore through the atmosphere on a direct course for the jedi temple.
Her eyes widened in fear as the massive ship hit the temple at full speed. The ammo aboard it detonated as planned.
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Jar Jar smiled where he sat. He felt the tremor of the Earthquake that shook everything in the area. He knew full well the Jedi order was now extinct. Only those away from the temple had survived and they would be in no shape to mount a defense against the next blow.
On the other end, he heard a simple, "roger roger."
He closed the communicator and tossed it off the balcony's edge. Then looked upwards watching as a star fell from the heavens.
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In orbit the engines of a Lucrehulk hit full burn. The droid crew obeyed the legal orders that had been given. The massive ship pitched forwards and then down. The shields burned red as it entered the atmosphere.
Within minutes it was hurtling down like the bolt of an angry god. No one was aware it was doing so purposely. Thinking it too was a victim of the battle raging about.
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Jedi Knight Tel-Rey Olson looked up. Her danger sense had been pinging for hours. The battle drew attention to it but it was to be expected. A stray shot landed nearby cratering the grounds around the Jedi Temple. She turned to head back inside to oversee the latest group of wounded when her senses screamed at her. She turned to see the massive shape of a Lucrehulk as it tore through the atmosphere on a direct course for the jedi temple.
Her eyes widened in fear as the massive ship hit the temple at full speed. The ammo aboard it detonated as planned.
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Jar Jar smiled where he sat. He felt the tremor of the Earthquake that shook everything in the area. He knew full well the Jedi order was now extinct. Only those away from the temple had survived and they would be in no shape to mount a defense against the next blow.
Typhonis
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The above snippet was a thought exercise in how to weaken the order in a way their precog could not counter. Coruscsant was under attack. Ships knocked from orbit probably were crashing into the surface. With all of the danger the jedi would not notice one more danger alert.
Thus dropping a 3 million ton starship full of fuel and explosives on their head. The sheer inertia would devestate the temple, then it explodes. Only the most fortunate jedi would survive.
Stunned, panicking, unstable. The anchor of the Jedi destroyed and they none the wiser it was deliberate.
THEN you have the clones execute their version of 66.
Thus dropping a 3 million ton starship full of fuel and explosives on their head. The sheer inertia would devestate the temple, then it explodes. Only the most fortunate jedi would survive.
Stunned, panicking, unstable. The anchor of the Jedi destroyed and they none the wiser it was deliberate.
THEN you have the clones execute their version of 66.
Skallagrim
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In the actual Battle of Coruscant, the issue is that Grievous uses an unknown hyperlane (co-ordinates povided by Palpy) that allows his fleet to revert to realspace right on top of the Coruscant Home Fleet. He starts attacking the planet right away, lots of ships dropping to within the shield circumference.
Normally, the shields are not up, because it would block the (massive amounts of) space traffic to and from Coruscant. Even the multiple, rotating shields set-up would be to cumbersome to commercial traffic. (Note that nobody expected the attack on Coruscant. They figured they'd see any fleet coming.)
So the issue became that raising the shields would trap a lot of CIS ships inside, while nearly all Republic ships (capable of fighting them) would be locked out, still engaging the other CIS ships in high orbit. So the CIS ships within the shield's confines would be free to wreck the surface without much in the way of repercussions.
The shields were raised later during the battle -- as soon as it became opportune -- which I seem to recall even trapped Grievous inside, briefly, while he was on the surface, abducting Palpatine.
Anyway, the "window of opportunity" for colony-dropping a big ship right on the temple would therefore be wide open during the early stages of the battle. However, this would hardly be very useful, as (during the battle), most of the Jedi on Coruscant were actually away from the temple... fighting in the battle. Moreover, most Jedi were away from Coruscant, fighting in the Outer Rim battles (which is part of what made the surprise attack so effective).
This whole scheme is hardly more efficient than what Palpy actually ended up doing.
If you want efficiency: use a cloaking device (first invented by Sienar by 32 ABY at the latest, probably earlier, although still experimental and ludicrously costly). Just put it on a good sized rock with thrusters attached, slap a hyperdrive on it, move it to the Coruscant system via hyperspace (already cloaked), and then have it crash right on top of the Jedi temple using a pre-programmed trajectory. Do this at a point in time when as many Jedi as possible are in the Temple. Have the whole operation carried out by droids and/or non-human agents whose minds can't be read by Jedi.
Then just grab the popcorn, put on your sunglasses, and at the appointed time, watch the Jedi Temple suddenly just explode in a fiery conflagration, as it is hit by a giant invisible rock moving at ludicrous speeds. (Pro tip: do this shortly before the Clone Wars are set to start, per your plan. Blame the CIS for everything, and thereby legitimise PATRIOT Act-esque security measures. Never waste a good crisis. Especially not one that you've engineered yourself.)