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Marduk

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Seems like what many suspected.
This isn't any real negotiation, this is Russia taking an opportunity to create yet another reason to act aggrieved over. Make demands so insane the other side would have to be crazy to accept them while offering little in return, then act aggrieved over getting refused when the inevitable happens.
 

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So I'm seeing things trending on Twitter that Russia is looking at a Latin American deployment in response to the NATO stuff in regard to Ukraine.

I'm guessing that means Venezuela is going to be getting a lot of Russian units stationed to it. It's not Cuba, though they hinted at that too, but it's got a lot of oil, is close to the Canal, can put missiles/strike craft close to the US, and is friendly to socialist fucktards.

 

Husky_Khan

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So I'm seeing things trending on Twitter that Russia is looking at a Latin American deployment in response to the NATO stuff in regard to Ukraine.

I'm guessing that means Venezuela is going to be getting a lot of Russian units stationed to it. It's not Cuba, though they hinted at that too, but it's got a lot of oil, is close to the Canal, can put missiles/strike craft close to the US, and is friendly to socialist fucktards.


I doubt Cuba wants Russian troops stationed there. It's if no advantage to Cuba or it's interests especially with Biden in office.

And Russian troops stationed in Venezuela is a pretty minor threat to America or it's interests without telegraphing anything.
 

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So I'm seeing things trending on Twitter that Russia is looking at a Latin American deployment in response to the NATO stuff in regard to Ukraine.

I'm guessing that means Venezuela is going to be getting a lot of Russian units stationed to it. It's not Cuba, though they hinted at that too, but it's got a lot of oil, is close to the Canal, can put missiles/strike craft close to the US, and is friendly to socialist fucktards.

Pure theatrics. Implying that Russia is going to sponsor a lot of serious quality units and intercontinental logistics for them to... defend Venezuelan failed state from Biden.
 

Terthna

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Seems like what many suspected.
This isn't any real negotiation, this is Russia taking an opportunity to create yet another reason to act aggrieved over. Make demands so insane the other side would have to be crazy to accept them while offering little in return, then act aggrieved over getting refused when the inevitable happens.
To be fair, most governments would be doing the same, if they were in their position.
 

Marduk

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To be fair, most governments would be doing the same, if they were in their position.
Would they? Their ambitious attempts to maintain a semi-formal empire at an excessively limited budget aren't something many governments would consider a good idea. Many western empires stood before similar questions earlier but gave different answers.
 

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The town of Dokuchaevsk* (self-declared Donetsk People's Republic territory) has been repeatedly shelled by Kiev-controlled forces in the last couple of months of 2021. Here's a video from December 2nd (2021)

*Named after V.V. Dokuchaev, a renowned geologist/soil scientist (the surname, in turn, probably stems from an old Russian word "dokuchAt" - to annoy, to bore). The word "dokuchAt" has a very close-sounding Ukrainian analog




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On 19.12.2021, a Ukrainian drone dropped a grenade-based explosive on the premises of the DPR fire station #43 in the town of Golmovski** (part of the Gorlovka*** district, self-declared Donetsk People's Republic territory)

**The town's name probably has something to do with the Russian word "gOlyi" - "barren", "naked", in a figurative sense "extremely poor". It either alludes to the type of landscape around the initial settlement or the poverty of the miners who used to live there in the 19th century. The word "gOlyi" has a very close-sounding Ukrainian analog

***Named after P.N. Gorlov, a mining engineer (the surname probably stems from the Russian word "gOrlo" - throat, bottleneck). The word "gOrlo" has a very close-sounding Ukrainian analog




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In other news - the people of Donetsk and Luhansk republics have welcomed in the New Year and Christmas, no matter what

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A Happy New Year stamp, issued by the Luhansk People's Republic

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Sources: "Russia 24" news channel; Gorlovka - The Heart of the DPR (a group in VKontakte, a Russian social network); Typical Donetsk (a group by & for Donetsk residents in VKontakte)

-- I try to use the term "Kiev-controlled forces" as often as possible because I don't want to insult Ukrainian army as a whole/Ukraine as a country. I'm half-Russian/half-Ukrainian. I know that many people in Ukraine privately feel abhorred by shellings of DPR and LPR civilians and don't support russophobic/ultra-nationalist views preached by those, who rose to power in Kiev in 2014 --



So, are you a paid mouthpiece for the Putin regime, or do you do it as volunteer work?
 
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Husky_Khan

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To be fair, it is a nice change of pace from all the anti-Putin/Russia rhetoric that keeps getting tossed out whenever the subject of Ukraine is brought up.

Yeah because Butch R. Mann, History Learner and PauloBrito among others having offered opposing viewpoints. Like if you check this very threads "Who Replied" category, Marduk is the only one who posts substantial "anti-Putin/Russia" rhetoric substantively. Everyone else kinda just shitposts.
 

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Pure theatrics. Implying that Russia is going to sponsor a lot of serious quality units and intercontinental logistics for them to... defend Venezuelan failed state from Biden.
I think it's not defending VZ that the troops are being put their for.

VZ offers a good launch pad if Russia wants to make a play for the Canal, or just hold it at risk in the event things further deteriorate diplomatically.
 

Terthna

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Yeah because Butch R. Mann, History Learner and PauloBrito among others having offered opposing viewpoints. Like if you check this very threads "Who Replied" category, Marduk is the only one who posts substantial "anti-Putin/Russia" rhetoric substantively. Everyone else kinda just shitposts.
He is the most prolific, I'll grant you that; but he's far from the only one. Then again, I'm also far from the only one who's been comparatively pro-Russia, so I guess I'm just appreciating that another person is joining my side of the argument.
 

Husky_Khan

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He is the most prolific, I'll grant you that; but he's far from the only one. Then again, I'm also far from the only one who's been comparatively pro-Russia, so I guess I'm just appreciating that another person is joining my side of the argument.

That's fine, just don't try and editorialize yourself as some sort of much maligned minority in discussion here.
 

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So I'm seeing things trending on Twitter that Russia is looking at a Latin American deployment in response to the NATO stuff in regard to Ukraine.

I'm guessing that means Venezuela is going to be getting a lot of Russian units stationed to it. It's not Cuba, though they hinted at that too, but it's got a lot of oil, is close to the Canal, can put missiles/strike craft close to the US, and is friendly to socialist fucktards.


If Russia wants to put its own troops in Latin America, then let 'em, just so long as they don't actually put any of their own nukes there.

 

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Yeah because Butch R. Mann, History Learner and PauloBrito among others having offered opposing viewpoints. Like if you check this very threads "Who Replied" category, Marduk is the only one who posts substantial "anti-Putin/Russia" rhetoric substantively. Everyone else kinda just shitposts.
I am also a strong "Anti-Putin/Russian" person, but as a warmonger and a shitposter
 

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In such a scenario, the Baltic countries would have been completely cut off from the rest of NATO other than by sea.
So is Norway.
Even as it is, in case of a serious war the security of the land route for major logistics is questionable at best due to the location, size and positioning of Russian forces and their allies,, so not as much change there as it would seem.
 

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So is Norway.
Even as it is, in case of a serious war the security of the land route for major logistics is questionable at best due to the location, size and positioning of Russian forces and their allies,, so not as much change there as it would seem.

The Russian bloc only has a very short border with Norway in the Arctic. But they would have a very long border with the Baltic countries. So, huge difference!
 

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The Russian bloc only has a very short border with Norway in the Arctic. But they would have a very long border with the Baltic countries. So, huge difference!
Its well noted that in either case, Baltics are not defensible if Russia gets serious and NATO doesn't have time for lots of pre-positioning. They are a glorified tripwire in normal conditions.
 

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