Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022

[ATP]

Really? Do you have details on that, I'd like to read more.

About commies being bandit - i found book - Piotr Gontarczyk,Tajne oblicze GL-AL,PPR,Dokumenty./my translation - Secret face of GL-AL/polish soviet partisants/,PPR/commie party/ documents.
Basically,he just citate their reports about fighting nazis abd capturing dresses and watches.Germans are wearing dresses,right?

Back to war - i do not belive,that USA support is real.They need war to discret USA public from their affairs,just like Putin need war to show other KGB bosses,that they could not replace him.

I bet,that they arleady agreed how long it would last and where new borders would be.
Killed russians nd ukrainians ? who cares - certainly not Putin and Biden handlers.

 

[WolfBear]

Microsoft in a Blog Post from its President, went over how they detected a "destructive cyber attack" against Ukrainian digital infrastructure hours prior to the Russian Invasion.

Microsoft detected ‘destructive cyberattacks’ against Ukraine hours before Russian invasion

Microsoft says it began detecting “destructive cyberattacks directed against Ukraine’s digital infrastructure” several hours before the Russian military began launching missiles or moving tanks into the country last week. The… Read More

www.geekwire.com

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Oof that last part. Well at least its nice to have dreams and aspirations.

What does Oof mean?

 

[Husky_Khan]

What does Oof mean?

Like the sound you make when your punched in the midsection. Metaphorical or analogous to "That's rough."

 

[sillygoose]

What does Oof mean?

Definition of OOF

—used to express discomfort, surprise, or dismay… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[Agent23]

I hope that Ukraine will get it as soon as possible:

Ukraine president asks for fast-track EU membership

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy on Monday asked the European Union to allow Ukraine to gain membership under a special procedure immediately as it defends itself from invasion by Russian forces.

www.reuters.com

This would be an extremely powerful propaganda tool to use against the Russian occupiers--as in, if only Ukraine will expel the Russian occupiers, then it could resume its EU membership!

Yay, more welfare leeches and more cheap wage slaves to lower salaries.

How about hell no.
Make them the 51st state, and make sure you import some of your gun-related legislation there.
Like having background checks and actual training before you had a rando off the street a gun.

In related news, Ukraine was Hillary's top donor:


Can you say, 'deep state laundromat'?

 

[Marduk]

And here is the tractor seen at the end of that video labeled as a “ukrainian farmer” capturing a russian Vehicle. You can see the same “Z” on the rear door. Seems like blue on blue.

Lol its not the same tractor. Look at their front wheels. Clearly different models. Even though in second video we don't know if it has the Z. But the supposed blue on blue one clearly does have a Z, so its not that. Why would a non Russian controlled tractor have a Z painted on it?

 

[Husky_Khan]

I just found the jackpot of Ukrainian propaganda.

They're editing Z, O, and V onto their own burning hulks from 2014 to pass them off as Russians.

Did that doctored image originate on Pro-Ukrainian media though? Checked on Oryx to see if it was used there and they RT'd the image as a forgery as well.

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In related news, Ukraine was Hillary's top donor:


Can you say, 'deep state laundromat'?

"Ukraine" was never a donor it seems. There were individual donors who were Ukrainian but of that ten million, apparently over 85% of it was from one dude. And apparently not the biggest donors even internationally for the Foundation. Some governments did donate to the Clinton Foundation but apparently the government of Ukraine was never one of them.

Fact check: False claim about Ukraine, Clinton Foundation resurfaces amid Russian invasion

Claims that Ukraine was among the largest donors to the Clinton Foundation misinterpret a 2015 report on the charity's foreign donations.

www.usatoday.com

Ukrainians contributed $10 million to the Clinton Foundation – more than any other nationality, according to the report. Most of that money came from Ukrainian businessman and philanthropist Victor Pinchuk.

Pinchuk’s foundation, based in Kyiv, donated $8.6 million to the foundation between 2009 and 2013, the Journal reported. He and his wife started contributing to Clinton charities in 2006.

Fact check roundup: What's true and what's false about the Russian invasion of UkraineThe article notes that Pinchuk has close government ties, as he served as a member of the Ukrainian Parliament from 1998-2006 and is the son-in-law of former Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma. Pinchuk's contributions – both to the Clinton Foundation and the Trump Foundation – have come under scrutiny and faced criticism, but they didn't stem from the Ukrainian government.


Pinchuk also wasn’t the largest donor to the Clintons' charity between 1999-2014. A 2015 analysis from The Washington Post found several donors had given more than $25 million to the Clinton Foundation since its creation. Among them: Canadian mining magnate Frank Giustra’s foundation, Democratic supporter Fred Eychaner and a major lottery based in the Netherlands.

The Clinton Foundation reports all contributors on its site. The Ukrainian government is not listed as a donor.
Other governments are, though. Australia, Saudi Arabia and Norway have all donated between $10 million and $25 million through grants, memberships, sponsorships and conference fees.

And Victor Pinchuk, at least according to his Wikipedia entry, doesn't seem to be exceptionally Pro-Western compared to his contemporaries.

In December 2016, Viktor Pinchuk published an article in the Wall Street Journal "Ukraine Must Make Painful Compromises for Peace With Russia", in which he suggested that Ukraine temporarily abandon the prospect of EU membership, exclude NATO membership and make a compromise with Russia on the Crimea peninsula on purpose the achieving peace in Eastern Ukraine.

The article drew criticism from the political authorities of the Ukraine. After its publication, then-President Petro Poroshenko canceled a visit to the Davos Ukrainian Lunch, which took place on January 19 2017.

Former Vice-Prime-Minister for European and Euro-Atlantic Integration of Ukraine Ivanna Klimpush-Tsintsadze said that the theses of Pinchuk's "peace plan" had already been used by Russian propaganda.

 

[Bacle]

 

[SchrodingersWehraboo]

Did that doctored image originate on Pro-Ukrainian media though? Checked on Oryx to see if it was used there and they RT'd the image as a forgery as well.

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we know one clip is from 2015:

 

[Husky_Khan]

we know one clip is from 2015:

Yeah I'm just curious if it was actually blasted out by Ukrainian supporters as a doctored image or if it was simply doctored and presented as being blasted out by Ukrainian supporters in an attempt to poison the well since like I said, the comments in the Oryx Re-Tweet of that image seem to allege it was the latter. It's probably rather hard to find out either way with how fluid social media is but it could be faking a forgery.

 

[Bacle]

So did anyone else see news of the US expelling Russian diplomats before now? I had not seen anything on Twitter about it before this.

 

[Husky_Khan]

So did anyone else see news of the US expelling Russian diplomats before now? I had not seen anything on Twitter about it before this.

Yeah it was from the United Nations for espionage allegations.

Lemme look up an article.

EDIT:

 

[JagerIV]

You know watching how this conflict has caused the internet to explode, I can't help but wonder at times if "Free Speech is Cheap Speach." Would people be so quick to support one side or the other in a conflict if it had to be backed up with
conscription (or defection depending on which country you lived in and which side you supported) and meant their blood was on the line? There is an awful lot of virtue signaling, butt kissing and politicking from what amounts to people hiding behind their computers and phones.

Is that really true of anyone who takes a pro-Russian Stance? They're going against the official consensus of the Western Establishment, and as we see with Covid and all the other speech code enforcement, they are not afraid to use those tools.

 

[Husky_Khan]

More Tweets from the ether...

Smartypants is stating the Russian forces are taking pause in some of the Northern areas in order to organize new plans and alleviate some of their logistical and supply problems.



And expands on it in a 25 tweet long thread.



Some of the troops in the Port City of Berdyansk are from Dagestan apparently... and only have one size helmet.



Really long convoys snaking towards Kyiv. Thick too...



Supposedly abandoned Russian vehicles near Sumy in Northern Ukraine.

 

[Omnimercurial]

Sigh did you miss the part where Russia took Crimea and the Off shore oil reserves that were near that island. And did you also miss that the territory Russia says it wants is where the rest of the oil is. You know the same area a brush war has been taking place at for the past few years.

Have to agree on this, I brought this up back in 2014 on SB and SV.... Got shouted down for saying it.

I gave a shit back then, now I just feel sad that it is the Populace, that get wrecked in these bullshit wars between Politicians.

Ultimately a lot of it is down to Oil and Gas.

The Laws regarding Coastal Waters and International Waters apply quite heavily to who owns or claims to own Crimea.

The real Tragedy is the continued lie that Oil and Gas are not renewable resources.

We have had Thermal Depolymerisation as a known process since the 20's & 30's, Oil can be created with Biomass, Heat and Pressure.

Gas can be reclaimed from Sewage or specialised Bacterial Bio-Reactors etc.

It is ALL just so much bullshit like artificial scarcity and value of Diamonds etc.

 

[TheRomanSlayer]

What is synthetic fuel made of in any case?

The real issue regarding Crimea was not just oil and gas: it's also the base of the Black Sea Fleet. I'm not sure if this is true, but there were plans to move the base of said Black Sea Fleet to Novorossiysk in the event that Russia failed to get Crimea.

 

[Chiron]

We have had Thermal Depolymerisation as a known process since the 20's & 30's, Oil can be created with Biomass, Heat and Pressure.

Gas can be reclaimed from Sewage or specialised Bacterial Bio-Reactors etc.

It is ALL just so much bullshit like artificial scarcity and value of Diamonds etc.

Technically true, but economically unfeasible due to unacceptable energy invested for energy returned once all externalities are factored in. Same thing for green energy which would actually be more environmentally destructive than just building more coal plants and in return, kill fewer animals. Because wind turbines kill a lot of birds and the solar panel farms disrupted the habitats of numerous endangered species and the heat generated is killing migrating birds. Not to mention the heavy use of coal products to make solar panels and the steel for wind turbines. By contrast the Alaska Pipeline led to a population increase of caribou and a rise in their natural predators. Of course the only real green energy solution is hydroelectric dams which we have grossly underutilized because of environmentalists.

But hey I will stop letting facts get in the way of your delusions.



Russia is reinforcing the Kherson Front to continue the likely push on Odessa and Transnistria.

 

[WolfBear]

Though I don’t think that being in the EU would be very good for Ukraine. They would probably be better off, in the long run, under Russian occupation than in the EU.

Poles are in the EU for over 15 years and yet have managed to avoid going Woke so far.

 

[WolfBear]

@ShieldWife but, I do more or less feel the same as you do. It is early, but it looks like this was a misstep by Putin unless he's way more ambitious than any of us think.

This will be the perfect excuse to tighten the grip at home, deflect all criticism, force all onto the same page, and cut off any exists. Subscribestar seems to be still up, but this seems the perfect excuse to go after such things. As well as take down more right wing channels that expressed outright Pro Russian views, if they don't lower the threshold to insufficiently anti-Russia.

I was thinking for a bit the Trucker Convoy might end up being more meaningful than the Ukrainian, but seeing all the closing ranks behind the Anti Russian narrative, and the sweeping powers it provides the perfect excuse for, this Ukrainian affair may be more impactful after all. Or at least its a powerful 1-2 punch.

The trucker protest pounds in that domestic opposition to the Cathedral will not be tolerated, and can be trivially crushed, while this is going to show that foreign opposition, or any ability of domestic opposition to make use of foreign opposition, will not be tolerated and can be trivially crushed.

The forces of evil have probably won. I'm not really sure its possible for them to lose. Heads they win, tails you lose and all that.

You mean "cut off any exits", no?

'Show this to Putin': A 6-year-old girl killed in Ukraine | CNN

Editor's note: This gallery contains graphic images. Viewer discretion is advised.

www.cnn.com

Russian forces close in on Ukraine's capital as death toll mounts

As Ukraine's 2nd largest city was hammered by Russian artillery, President Volodymyr Zelensky vowed that his country wouldn't be pressured into concessions.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[JagerIV]

Poles are in the EU for over 15 years and yet have managed to avoid going Woke so far.

That's sort of like saying Reagan wasn't woke, so all that 70s radicalism was just dead in the water. The fact Poland had to radically depower its supreme court because it was overrun with communists suggests the whole institution is still there. All Poland's current situation proves is your at least at the 1980s stage of this, where political power could partially contain it to the universities and courts. Your still probably 1 Blaire or Clinton equivalent away from it all being hard coded into law, at which point the people will morph to conform with the law.