Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022

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Russia has actually confirmed two of their generals were killed as of now.

Major General Andrey Sukhovetsky was never confirmed officially and no funeral was given and he was in fact seen with Kadyrov 3 days after his reported death. Major General Vladimir Frolov is the only confirmed death with a videotaped funeral with full military honors and an open casket viewing.

I mean. How do you explain how we only ever see small amounts of western aid being captured?
Sometimes the same cache over and over again?

We see a lot of it with the serials photographed so we know they are new caches. Then again you are either incompetent at your job or even worse, running an illegal pysops to shape public opinion of US citizens and elected policymakers.

The former calls for your dismissal and sacking as you are costing us wars and getting folks killed.

The latter calls for you to spend time in Leavenworth for misleading public officials into throwing equipment our own military needs, and can't easily replace nowadays, into a blackhole that won't change the outcome of the Russo-Ukrainian War. That is directly harming our national security and can not ever be tolerated.

I will let you choose which interpretation is correct. Either way you are a scumbag and a symptom of the greater rot in the US military that must be excised thoroughly with public examples made.



Wagner Group was founded here.



Another large batch of prisoners taken by Russia.



Russia fires 80,000 artillery rounds a day alone. Not counting mortar rounds, tank rounds, or automatic grenade rounds, that is a lot of metal. Discounting 30mm cannon rounds and lower calibers plus rifle fired grenades/stand alone grenade launchers and RPG rounds. No wonder Ukrainians are surrendering in increasing numbers and Ukraine has to bring in the Territorial Guard units that by law are supposed to stay in their local areas.



Russia showing no shortage of missiles. If they hate you that much, you'll eat an Iskander.



Forest clearing.
 
The reasons Ukraine is winning now is that for the most part they outnumber the Russians being fully mobilized for the war and are being flooded with equipment to maintain it. If the Russians fully mobilize however I cant say for certain if they can maintain that momentum or won't be pushed back.

Mark my words I feel that at this stage Putin is hoping to get to the Dnieper over conquering the whole country. That's not to say he's bound to succeed just that its likely.

I think my initial comparison to the American Civil war way at the beginning remains apt: certainly in the East, there really isn't a whole lot of space to give: their two biggest cities are right close to the border, just as Richmond was less than 200 km away from Washington. Ukraine doesn't practically have much distance to trade for anything, and so needs to more or less hold the ground it has for as long as its military holds out. And the country itself is not all that big in modern terms so highway speed you can move reinforcements from pretty much anywhere to the front in a couple of days. Similar issue to the American Civil War where, at least in the East, the front was travel wise pretty close to most of the important population/industrial centers.

The effective front is also fairly small as well: 500 ish km with 100,000 men, what I've heard is the rough force sizes, is 200 per km, which isn't a super strong line, but enough to maintain a fairly solid line, so operation/tactical encirclements/large manuvers aren't really viable either.

This all suspects there's not really much reason to expect all that much front movement until one of the armies literally stop to function and can't move enough troops/supplies up to maintain the line. After which I would expect big movements to happen. But, not without one of the militaries more or less disintegrates.
 
From the likely BS rumor mill.





Checking the Local Weather Reports for Confirmation.


No confirmation yet but as an FYI I was going to post this later today after work and soccer. Most of the Fleet is in Port as posted on earlier today reportedly.

 
Retired Army Staff Officer Tyler Weaver Explains the reality of the past month of Russian Operations.

With Liman surrounded, likely a week to clear the town itself, we will likely see the big push soon now that a proper jump off lodgment has been made with the clearing of the Seversky-Donets north bank.

Ukrainian Units recount getting pasted.

Still has the usual false talking points about the Kyiv Double Feint or that the inadequate Western Aid will turn the tide as opposed to being too little too late and being mostly blown up before arriving, but it is what it admits that is interesting.

“We really have a lack of heavy artillery,” says Ukrainian Sgt. Viktor Davydov, still wired and speaking quickly of Ukraine’s needs, after returning to the town of Druzhkivka from the front, where he says Russian artillery strikes continue “24/7.”

“When Russia sends incoming 200 shells, we send back 10 shells,” says Sergeant Davydov, who wears sunglasses, a pistol on his thigh, and a skull shoulder patch in the blue and yellow colors of the Ukrainian flag.

His job is to take freshly mobilized men to the front “to show them not to be afraid,” and to teach them “how to dig in and make very effective defensive positions” to compensate for the firepower imbalance with Russia.

“I tell them that all they have to do is hold our line, and not retreat,” says Sergeant Davydov. The cost can be high. The sergeant recalls 10 recruits in late April being sent to him one night at 11 p.m. By 6 a.m. two were dead and three wounded by Russian artillery.

This is the reality when the other side has a massive air and artillery advantage with an unending logistical supply. Ukrainian units are suffering 50% causalities just from the constant shelling softening them up. What ever Ukrainians do at the tactical level simply doesn't matter in the larger operational scheme, Russia has complete control of the flow of battle. They decide when, where, and how to attack and slice off another weakened chunk of the Ukrainian Lines. It is a testament to Ukrainian Courage that they remain willing to slug it out, but this war is lost for them.



Since Russia will win the war, they will be doing the Trials, Western Accusations and Protestations be damned and largely irrelevant.



As this war ends, the entire OSINT community will be largely discredited along with the Western Intelligence Agencies. It will be clear Ukraine committed a massive number of warcrimes against the civilian population of Ukraine to hinder Russian Operations.



I won't post the video as he displays poor weapons safety handling with a live and hot weapon and I don't want people getting bad examples of handling weapons.



Now that the civilians are out, the DPR is just leveling the plant. Top video is a different city.


Now that is cope because Russian state media said he was dead along with God father putin.

A tabloid said he was dead along with a retired intelligence officer with no evidence. There was no funeral.

That said on to other things. Got a new book on Roman Era Castras I'm going to be reading alongside work.
 
Even if Russia goes full mobilization today, those troops wouldn't really hit the front in any meaningful numbers till the start of August.

Comparatively, Ukraine went full mobilization the day Russia invaded, so their troops will be hitting the front lines in the next few weeks.

And this isn't an RTS where troops do the same amount of damage no matter their HP. Which I bring up, because those Russian troops in the field? Their effectiveness is only getting lower. And that is important because all evidence points to Russia loosing troops and equipment at something like a 5 to 1 ratio.
Dude I am not in anyway shape or form rooting for the Russians here. The fact is like I said its "he said she said" issue on what happens from here on out. Are you saying you know the future? Or stating that your opinion even if mostly reinforced by logic is naturally better?

I dont have any real opinion here other than it isnt over until one side is bought to the peace table and beyond equipment loss and low morale of Russian conscripts we really dont know what Putin in general has in the works. Who knows? Putin could announce conscription and get ousted in a coup that descends into civil war for all we know.
 
First off, the light hearted conversation about Genocide for the Ukrainians until they Behave.





According to Ukrainian sources, civilian prisoners recovered in exchanges suffering from Russian abuse and neglect while enjoying the fruits of Liberation. Many were suffering from the effects of beatings, torture, starvation and exposure to the elements, as well as imprisonment in horrible conditions. There are reports of sepsis, and amputations of toes and feet and limbs from the survivors.

BBC said:
The Russians were going house to house, and they pulled the two men out of the cellar and beat them, Nikita said. "There was shooting, people in the village were being killed, it was terrifying."

They were blindfolded and taken at gunpoint to what seemed like a field, where they were tortured. Nikita has a fresh scar on his knuckle, which he said was caused by the Russians tightening a wrench around the knuckle and turning it until the skin tore open. He could hear others around him, but he didn't know how many or who.

The Russians took away their boots, filled them with water and put them back on. Then the prisoners were forced to lie face down on the field in the freezing cold. "We lay like that for three or four nights, under the rain, getting colder and colder," Nikita said.

As they lay in the field, a deep cold set into Nikita's feet. Soon he could not feel them at all. Then shells started falling close to them, announcing themselves with earth-shaking booms.

Then they were taken to a prison in Kursk with hundreds of other male and female prisoners being used as hostages to exchange for Russian military prisoners.

BBC said:
Others were facing the same grim situation. Some would later lose entire limbs. The care at the prison was minimal - an antibiotic shot and bandage changes once every three days. According to Nikita, the prison doctor told him: "We have good medicine and medical treatment here, but it is not for you."

The prisoners kept each other entertained in the cell by talking about their families and telling jokes. They were forced to learn patriotic Russian songs by heart and perform them for the guards, Nikita said. "The anthem of Russia, another disgusting Putin-glorifying song. They gave them to us in the morning and told us to learn them by lunchtime," he said.

They were interrogated two or three times a day and beaten, he said. Afterwards they were forced to sign documents declaring they had been treated and fed well and not harmed, which is how they learned where they were, because the documents were stamped "Kursk Pre-Trial Detention Centre 1".

After three weeks in the prison, the condition of Nikita's feet had worsened dramatically, and he was finally transferred to hospital with two others. A surgeon told him he was going to have all his toes amputated. "They were in such bad condition by then that during the examination one of my toes just fell off," Nikita said.

A Ukrainian father's terrifying journey to a Russian prison and back



Pictures of Ukrainian Civilians Allegedly Tortured and Executed by Russian Liberators.





Ukrainian Units recount getting pasted.

Still has the usual false talking points about the Kyiv Double Feint or that the inadequate Western Aid will turn the tide as opposed to being too little too late and being mostly blown up before arriving, but it is what it admits that is interesting.

This is the reality when the other side has a massive air and artillery advantage with an unending logistical supply. Ukrainian units are suffering 50% causalities just from the constant shelling softening them up. What ever Ukrainians do at the tactical level simply doesn't matter in the larger operational scheme, Russia has complete control of the flow of battle. They decide when, where, and how to attack and slice off another weakened chunk of the Ukrainian Lines. It is a testament to Ukrainian Courage that they remain willing to slug it out, but this war is lost for them.

The Article

Christian Science Monitor said:
Despite the surge in Russian attacks, the number of wounded rose just 10% from March to April, the doctor says.

Dang the casualty rate went from 40% to 50%. That's like... 90% casualties or something in two months!!! 😛

Oh and it looks like the Russians ran out of infantry as well!

Christian Science Monitor said:
“They are sending recon units, then shell with artillery, and then send tanks,” he says. “If those tanks are destroyed, they send more tanks.”

Infantry hardly plays a role. “You see how many of them have died already, and they are not motivated,” says Major Kot. “Russia underestimated us; they don’t know how much we have been preparing.”

Course you need reliable units to do recon without incurring too severe of losses and-



Well might explain the increased losses of Russian drones that's been documented.
 
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Major General Andrey Sukhovetsky was never confirmed officially and no funeral was given and he was in fact seen with Kadyrov 3 days after his reported death. Major General Vladimir Frolov is the only confirmed death with a videotaped funeral with full military honors and an open casket viewing.



We see a lot of it with the serials photographed so we know they are new caches. Then again you are either incompetent at your job or even worse, running an illegal pysops to shape public opinion of US citizens and elected policymakers.

The former calls for your dismissal and sacking as you are costing us wars and getting folks killed.

The latter calls for you to spend time in Leavenworth for misleading public officials into throwing equipment our own military needs, and can't easily replace nowadays, into a blackhole that won't change the outcome of the Russo-Ukrainian War. That is directly harming our national security and can not ever be tolerated.

I will let you choose which interpretation is correct. Either way you are a scumbag and a symptom of the greater rot in the US military that must be excised thoroughly with public examples made.



Wagner Group was founded here.



Another large batch of prisoners taken by Russia.



Russia fires 80,000 artillery rounds a day alone. Not counting mortar rounds, tank rounds, or automatic grenade rounds, that is a lot of metal. Discounting 30mm cannon rounds and lower calibers plus rifle fired grenades/stand alone grenade launchers and RPG rounds. No wonder Ukrainians are surrendering in increasing numbers and Ukraine has to bring in the Territorial Guard units that by law are supposed to stay in their local areas.



Russia showing no shortage of missiles. If they hate you that much, you'll eat an Iskander.



Forest clearing.

Can you go ahead and prove these serials? Because @planefag has shown previously tjat a large amount of Stingers have been used the same over and over.
and thousands of weapons bave been sent. We javnt even seen a hundred of them total except Ukraine made stuff. So no the foreign aid isnt being intercepted.

and i am actually doing great at my job because unlike you i can see what is goimg on. My assessment has been from the beginning one of two things. Either they push from every side and manage to take Kiev in a week to month tops.
Or two: it becomws the larg3st slug fest in western history since WW2 and Russia bleeds. My assessment was based off of initial viewing on Twitter and Telegram of the conflict.
Hey what can I say we Sailors hold long grudges.
So do Soldiers
 
More unconfirmed reports on the Admiral Makarov.





Nathan Ruser has a long thread discussing the recent changes in the Battlefield and specifically how the Russian Offensive is slowing down.



More Ukrainians being trained on M777 Howitzers.



Russian Seperatist Fighters using high angle indirect fire with their AGS-17: Automatic Grenade Launchers.

 
Rob Lee had a Twitter thread on it recently that was a good read.



Mobilizing the Conscripts and the Reserves Ain't a Quick Solution in the Least and a Messy One at Best. Some of the things touched on are how Conscripts only serve for a year, they serve and train with their units, most of those units are already partially deployed to Ukraine including most of their NCO's and many officers, and in regards to Reserves, its a system they haven't exercised in a long time and will require even more training to bring back and a lack of skeleton units ready to take in large numbers of mobilized troops.

Related, despite the perennial "reports" otherwise, A lot of Russia's best troops including the Airborne, Naval Infantry and Guards Army that protects Moscow for example have already been deployed there anyhow and supposedly 80% of their BTG's have been deployed to Russia which means most of them can't be rotated out like the United States did in Iraq and Afghanistan for years.

Seeing all the dead bodies and Ukranians males from a huge age range not being allowed to leave there's going to be one huge demographic crisis later on.
 
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Seeing all the dead bodies and Ukranians males from a huge age range not being allowed to leave there's going to be one huge demographic crisis later on.
Tell me about it, even here we are getting an influx of Ukrainian thots, sadly most of them is mingers or obnoxious, blue hair yoga hipsters, at least according to what I am seeing on various dating/hookup apps.
I have even been collecting screenshots, but I am too lazy to post them here.
Haven't looked at the new hooker listings in a while, though, so maybe there is some influx of decent talent there.
The western countries and Poland are probably licking up the cream and we are left with the spoiled milk at the bottom of the tank.
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So…you’re having sick fantasies about Ukrainian female war refugees….the same guy who fantasized about Ukrainian female soldiers getting raped?

Finding new ways to lower yourself even further it seems.
Well cheaper hookers could be a benefit from this stupid war.You know, something to compensate us for having to pay more money for oil and gas because of the retarded western spergout.
And we are forced to suffer through the bitching and moaning of tens of thousands of so called refugees, while their stay in our hotels is paid for by our taxes.

Also, it is not like I am forcing any thot to whore herself out on hookers sites or to look for ONS on Tinder.
Oh, and this raises the question, if they are poor, abused war refugees, then why the hell are they looking for ONSes to begin with?
Could it be that they are just opportunists using the situation to run away to another country in the "civilized" EU?

If somebody is selling meat at a meat market, I will go and check it out, I am not a vegetarian.If you are then you should stay away from it and eat your grass like a good little sheep, mr, white knight wannabe.
The Knight of the Cuckd Image.
 
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First evidence of the use of Switchblade Drones in Ukraine.





Also evidence of British Brimstone Missiles being Utilized in Ukraine as well.



More images of the destroyed T-90M in Ukraine now that it stopped Burning.



Evidence but Still Not Confirmation of the Admiral Makarov being in Distress.

 

Why are you parroting the same old stuff?
I don't give a crap about it, I know the Ukrainians wanted to genocide the ethnic Russians and that they were told NATO was a red line for Moscow.
I want Putin to win and I want to see the EU and the USA's elites eat a massive shit pie.
I have zero desire to bankroll the whiny Kiev Clown and his junta or paly higher prices and suffer more inflation because he managed to get the Twitter NPCs to ree for him.
Putin must win, I am rooting for him.
Nothing you say changes that situation.
So, you want Putin to win, and seem to view Ukrainians as just 'meat', or 'hohols' to use a term you yourself have used for them, and seem to be unable to admit you backed the wrong side.

Of course I think you have me on Ignore, like so many other who call out your Vatnik tendencies.

Maybe if your countrymen hadn't kept sucking the Bear's teat, you all wouldn't be in this mess.

Edit: And in more topical news, looks like we have confirmation the Makarov has been hit:
 
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What random Chinese banter led to certainly rang true.
 
So, you want Putin to win, and seem to view Ukrainians as just 'meat', or 'hohols' to use a term you yourself have used for them, and seem to be unable to admit you backed the wrong side.

Of course I think you have me on Ignore, like so many other who call out your Vatnik tendencies.

Maybe if your countrymen hadn't kept sucking the Bear's teat, you all wouldn't be in this mess.

Edit: And in more topical news, looks like we have confirmation the Makarov has been hit:

So that's what, 50% of Russia's black sea fleet sunk now?
 

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