Exactly. It is also cultural your current Western women extols meaningless, instant gratification and infidelity as virtues and demonizing traditional values. There's nothing wrong with a libertine lifestyle if you're into that. But that's not an option once you've married.
Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion
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mrttao
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There is everything wrong with that lifestyle.
Literally nothing about it is right.
Don't even have to be religious to notice that.
Indeed.If you have many lovers before marriage,it is good chance,that they leave you some nice ilness.
And even if not,your brain is programmed for betraing your spouse to next nicer baby.
King Arts
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Yup guess the wagnerites no longer are protected POWs. If they execute people who surrender they deserve to be executed. Only certain Russia simps who shall not be named will say otherwise.
mrttao
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So, opening that thread.
various people are calling for ukraine to torture russian captives to death.
while several state that this is a response to Ukraine on the spot killing russians who surrender / get captured, instead of taking them as POW. meaning ukraine did it first.
Russians are claiming that it is the other way around. that ukrainians were doing it first. which is why russians have more than 10x more POWs than ukrain does.
Looks like history books are gonna get written be the winner again.
And who actually started the on the spot killing first will be written by the victors.
I am curious to know if any actual 3rd sides, like india, had observes on the ground that confirm who started it.
Probably not. as such countries are staying out of the conflict
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That would be exactly what Wagner leadership wanted. Will help with the issue of their less... motivated members being too eager to surrender.
Hahaha, of course Russian propagandists would say that.
Source: Putin's ass.
The fact is that Russia is not allowing the Red Cross full access to the POWs they hold, hence it is impossible to verify how many they have and if they aren't just random civilians they have grabbed from occupied areas, and so they can claim whatever number they fancy.
Ukraine updates: Red Cross demands access to POWs – DW – 10/14/2022
The Red Cross demanded access to prisoners of war after Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelenskyy accused the organization of inaction. Meanwhile, more Russian missiles struck parts of Ukraine. DW rounds up the latest.
www.dw.com
Even if someone had people suicidal enough to do it for whatever mysterious reason (Russi&company love targeting such people), it's obviously impossible to prove a negative.
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My god, you are actually taking Russian MoD propaganda as reality/fact...pathetic.
mrttao
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Reading fail.
You literally quoted me saying we can't tell which side is right here.
One side started slaughtering surrendering PoWs first. And it would not at all surprise me if it was the self righteous globohomo side that did it first.
But unlike you, I actually reserve judgement.
While you are absolutely certain that the woke world order are a bunch of angels and saints who dindu nuffin
You are trying to weasel out of this, when you are the one who is trusting Russian propaganda and trying to say 'Ukraine did it first' without proof, then saying 'well, I don't know' to try to deflect pushback.
It's fucking transparent, and pathetic.
And this isn't about me trusting the 'woke world order'; just because I despise wokeness, does not make Russia trustworthy, and knowing Russian imperial ambitions are far more destructive to the people under them than the worst wokeness in the west.
Very relevant to this:
Russia will say whatever it can to try to get it's friends in the far left and far right to stick up for it, regardless of the truth of things.
Maybe stop being one of those types.
mrttao
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A+ Projecting.
I have nothing to weasel out of, because unlike you, I am not a frothing in the mouth zealot.
I have from the very first post took a neutral stance of "we don't know which side is lying".
While you from the very beginning took the stance of "Russia is Satan. lies about everything. Globohomo are angels. All wrongdoing is vatnik propaganda and deepfakes"
Actually even before that you denied russia even had a claimed cause at all. and only when presented to you, you admitted they have one. But shifted gears into "and you are a vatnik for believing their obvious lies"
They claim there are videos of ukraine executing russian soldiers, thus having proof.
Honestly I don't even care enough to try to bypass the censorship walls to try and see them and analyze their validity.
I am just not that invested in it.
Have fun throwing zealot tantrums, I guess.
Oh, you're 'not that vested', after making so many positive claims about what Ukraine is doing and when.
I never said 'globohomo are angels', but you out yourself as just another Kremlin shill by acting like condemning Russia's actions and not trusting them means I 'support globohomo'.
Fucking vatnik.
mrttao
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Another thing of note, which I think was missed before.
Accusations of slaughtering surrendering soldiers were going on for both sides for over a year now
(accompanied by home made videos)
Posting in it is a minor way to kill off some spare time.
If I was invested I would be making analysis videos that reach a larger audience than the... what, 5 people active in this thread?
Accusations of slaughtering surrendering soldiers were going on for both sides for over a year now
(accompanied by home made videos)
Check the dates. This thread has been going on for more than a year now.
Posting in it is a minor way to kill off some spare time.
If I was invested I would be making analysis videos that reach a larger audience than the... what, 5 people active in this thread?
ahahahahahaha
@mrttao chomo the Russians started ethnically cleansing Ukraine from the moment they stepped past the border. This is literally the third or fifth ethnic cleansing of Ukrainians since 1914, depending on how you count the events. Claiming Ukraine started executing surrendering Russians first is some grade A crack cocaine. They've been recorded raping children to death in front of parents to force them to surrender nonexistent money or jewelry. If they all disappear tomorrow the world will gain a net benefit.
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mrttao
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So lets see.
1. you seem to think russians are immortal demons whose soldiers are well over 109 years old.
either that, or that that people are guilty of any crime done by a member of their race up to hundreds of years ago.
2. you advocate for the complete genocide of russians. (how ironic)
3. you justify your genocidal desires with "because russians genocided ukrainians in 1914 (who survived being genocided). thus russians deserve being genocided back"
4. you add some dubious shock value claims.
And you want to be taken seriously?
Yes,but actually no.
1.There is no Russia now,soviets murdered it.It is kgbstan
2.In 1914 most people on Ukraine considered themselves as locals or russians,not ukrainians.
Entire nation was created after 1866 by austrians to counter poles,and in their lands it partially worked.
But,even in 1920 ukrainians do not volunteer to fight for their state,when Poland made offensive to made ukrainian state and take Kiev.When poles volunteer to fight when soviets go for Warsaw.
That is why Poland after 1920 existed,and Ukraine did not.Becouse polish peasants was fighting for Poland,when only elites fought for Ukraine ,peasants was still mostly locals.
3.Current Ukraine idolize UPA genociders,who do not have problems with slowly torturing polish children ,eldery and adults to death in 1943.Why not kill enemy soldiers now,if they arleady idolize genociders ?
Sejm was not in Kraków.And,when it turned farmers into serfs,ukrainians as nation do not existed yet.
They were created by austrian,when they gave poles autonomy - to keep us in check.
But even then it only half-worked - austrians gave polis city Lwów to ukrainians in 1918,half of city was reclaimed by polish children and cyvilians,and then come 1.300 strong help from Warsaw which was enough to kick ukrainian from our city.
Becouse there was no ukrainian in Lwów in 1918.
And yes,in 1920 it was austrian-made elites,who get state from germans in 1918,and lost it minute after german army widraw.Becouse locals considered themselves as locals or russians,not ukrainians.
Amigo. From the Balkan perspective a Jagiellonian is just as much of a threat as a Mokholi, a Suleiman or Charles Martel himself. By your metric Poland doesn't deserve to exist either. Seeing as it was German armies that forced the Russians to release you. Or if you want we can go all the way back to Ruthenia and Silesia.
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