Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

[Yinko]

If the BRICS union is going to fall apart soon then they aren't an economic threat.

BRICS is a joke, completely artificial and invented by an investment firm. None of the countries have any co-interests, India and Russia hate China, China hates them back, South Africa and Brazil are jokes. Of them all, India is the most stable, but they have no reason to get involved in all this. Recently the whole thing came back to life, after being head for something like a decade, because the USD looks like it will die soon and the Saudis are looking to jump ship before they become completely irrelevant.

 

[King Arts]

I think if Putin did nuke a populated area (it would have to be populated, couldn't just be done farm out there) then that would scare the American public enough to unleash everything on them. Which is probably why he hasn't.

Wouldn’t that be the worst thing we can do? If Putin uses nukes on Kiev for example that means that the people who are saying Russia has no nukes are wrong. If we launch (to defend someone not in NATO I should add) the. The Russians will launch everything at us and we will be wiped out also.

 

[mrttao]

>talk
Don't you guys have phones?

facepalm.
I am not Russian.
And sure, yea... lets close all embassies and just communicate by phone only. great idea.

BRICS is a joke, completely artificial and invented by an investment firm. None of the countries have any co-interests, India and Russia hate China, China hates them back, South Africa and Brazil are jokes. Of them all, India is the most stable, but they have no reason to get involved in all this. Recently the whole thing came back to life, after being head for something like a decade, because the USD looks like it will die soon and the Saudis are looking to jump ship before they become completely irrelevant.

their shared interest is "fuck america"

 

[Marduk]

facepalm.
I am not Russian.
And sure, yea... lets close all embassies and just communicate by phone only. great idea.

their shared interest is "fuck america"

That's the idea, embassies don't have staff in dozens to hundreds "to communicate". This is a privilege used for various bureaucratic stuff related to travel, migration and business, plus all sorts of more or less under the table activities.

 

[Yinko]

their shared interest is "fuck america"

That's only true for China and Russia. India likes the US quite a bit, and the other two are ambivalent at worst.

 

[Marduk]

That's only true for China and Russia. India likes the US quite a bit, and the other two are ambivalent at worst.

Yeah, India is playing both sides, it's the wannabe superpowers and countries with leftists in charge who are the worst, like "fuck america, but plz keep sending monies".

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[mrttao]

That's only true for China and Russia. India likes the US quite a bit, and the other two are ambivalent at worst.

Liberal world order just recently tried to foment a revolution in india, and got caught. With greta tunburg accidentally posting the entire PDF warplan on how they will destabilize india.

India is not taking this lying down. see here

there is an early part where he lays into george soros.
and then a later part you should particularly watch. starting at 9:50
where he addresses the notion that india must pick the usa side in the fight for globohomo supremacy.
but the entire video is good and I recommend watching the whole thing.

the indian speaking is:

S. Jaishankar - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Subrahmanyam Jaishankar (born 9 January 1955) is an Indian diplomat and politician serving as the Minister of External Affairs of the Government of India since 30 May 2019, became the first ever diplomat to be appointed as External Affairs minister.[1] He is a member of the Bharatiya Janata Party and a Member of Parliament in the Rajya Sabha since 5 July 2019. He previously served as the Foreign Secretary from January 2015[2][3] to January 2018.[4]

as for the other two, they are explicitly moving against the globohomo agenda of child molesting freaks.

wake up and look around you.
Any sane objective person is looking at china and usa. and is gonna choose china, because they don't want their kids raped by a man in a dress

 

[mrttao]

particularly you should watch starting at 9:50

I did a quick transcription of what it says in that video between 9:50 and 13:10 on that video. might be some typos since I was going fast.

if and when the choice comes to it, not today, not tomorrow, but in the future. for india if it will become for support. the usa or china. and this will become the defining moment of the situation that we face with russia right now

he responds

Somewhere europe has to grow out of the mindset, that Europes problems are the worlds problems, but the worlds problems are not Eruope's problems.
That if it is you it is yours, but if it is me it is ours.
I think that is something, and I see, I know, reflections of that.
Again, in terms of, there is a linkage that is today being made between china and india and what is happening today in ukraine. I mean, common guys, china and india happen way before anything happened in ukraine.
so the chinese do not a precedence somewhere else in the world on how to engage us or not engage us, or be difficult with us or not be difficult with us.
I see this as frankly a not very clever argument.
A very self serving one.
And this idea that your grand strategy must be about how you will choose.
I will do what as all of us do. i will weigh the situation. how do countries make these decisions

he is then interrupted by reporter mid sentence

There will always be these two axis, and it is understood accepted fact. you have the west, US led. and you have china, another potential axis. Where do you think india fits into this.

he resumes

no I am sorry, this is exactly where I disagree with you. this is the construct you are trying to impose on me and I don't accept it.
I don't feel, I don't think it is necessary for me to join this axis or not, and if I am not joining this axis I must be with the other one. I don't accept that.
I think I am 1/5th of the world's population, I am the 5th or 6th largest economy in the world, I am... forget the history civilization bit, everyone knows that.
but I think I am entitled to have my own side, weigh my own interests, and make my own choices. and my choices would not be cynical and transactions. but they will be a balance of my values and interests.
there is no country in the world that disregards its own interests.

I love how she goes "everyone knows this is a fact!"
and instead of playing her game. he doesn't, instead refuting her so called facts and premise.

 

[Bigking321]

"there is no country in the world that disregards its own interests."

I dunno...

I see a lot of western countries having their own interests disregarded by globalists elites taking them over and not giving a crap about the people there.

 

[mrttao]

Liberal world order just recently tried to foment a revolution in india, and got caught. With greta tunburg accidentally posting the entire PDF warplan on how they will destabilize india.

in regards to that... wow, I thought this was more recent, but actually was 2 years ago.

India had some astroturfed farmer protests, and other shit being orchastrated and funded by soros and globohomo and a faux revolution attempt.

And amongst those "conspiracy theories" Greta Thunberg accidentally shared the wrong document. instead of a toolkit for current events, she shared the plan for the whole shebang

Greta Thunberg deleted this document from her Twitter after Republic exposed her- Republic World

www.republicworld.com

there was also bullshit attacks on india when they refused to waive the requirement for testing by their FDA equivalent for covid "vaccines".
the companies putting forth the jabs refused to get the testing done. and then a series of attacks started on india via news and social media

 

[Yinko]

Liberal world order just recently tried to foment a revolution in india, and got caught. With greta tunburg accidentally posting the entire PDF warplan on how they will destabilize india.

My question for him, and people like him, is if they are capable of separating the Liberal World Order from the West in general.

I recommend watching the whole thing.

I did. Very interesting, it seems as if he wants to keep India semi-neutral. Biding his time so that India's rivals exhaust themselves thus leaving India in a better position. India has never expanded geographically, and rarely ever exported it's people or religion (unless you count Buddhism), but influence is something they have historically cared a great deal about.

 

[mrttao]

My question for him, and people like him, is if they are capable of separating the Liberal World Order from the West in general.

The liberal world order are the rulers of the western nations.
Until and unless western nations revolt and overthrow them, there is nothing to distinguish.

Unless India is planning to retaliate against the attempts to destabilize them by supporting the oppressed populations of the west in revolt against the LWO

 

[Yinko]

Unless India is planning to retaliate against the attempts to destabilize them by supporting the oppressed populations of the west in revolt against the LWO

In honor of their kind intentions and aid, we will replace no-fault divorce with Sati.

 

[AmosTrask]

In honor of their kind intentions and aid, we will replace no-fault divorce with Sati.

We decapitated the first few Indian settlers who tried bringing that to the Philippines centuries ago. Human sacrifice is a major cultural taboo

 

[Yinko]

We decapitated the first few Indian settlers who tried bringing that to the Philippines centuries ago. Human sacrifice is a major cultural taboo

Divorce is illegal in the Philippines.

EDIT- I feel I should clarify. It's largely a good thing that divorce is illegal where you are. However, divorce is a statistical probability in the West to the point that there is little point in ever marrying, and even just staying with the same woman for a prolonged period of time brings the same legal risks.

TLDR, we're fucked so we need to adopt someone else's stricter methods. Be that Rajput or Filipino, I don't care.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

However, divorce is a statistical probability in the West to the point that there is little point in ever marrying, and even just staying with the same woman for a prolonged period of time brings the same legal risks.

This is false. The divorce rate is not over 50%. Divorce, as a percentage, is actually at a 50-year low in the US. Unfortunately, the marriage rate has fallen as well.

 

[Jormungandr]

This is false. The divorce rate is not over 50%. Divorce, as a percentage, is actually at a 50-year low in the US. Unfortunately, the marriage rate has fallen as well.

"The rate of starvation has declined! Yaye!"
"That's only because the people who were starving are now dead."

 

[Prince Ire]

The average person doesn't have a 50% chance of getting divorced, the reason it seems so high is due to serial divorce: a person whose first marriage ended in divorce is much more likely to have their second marriage end in divorce, and so on.

 

[mrttao]

This is false. The divorce rate is not over 50%. Divorce, as a percentage, is actually at a 50-year low in the US. Unfortunately, the marriage rate has fallen as well.

hmm... I looked it up and found

FastStats

FastStats is an official application from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) and puts access to topic-specific statistics at your fingertips.

www.cdc.gov

So according to the CDC, the current marriage rate in the usa as of 2021 is 0.6% of the population are getting married each year. and 0.25% of the population getting divorced per year.

marriage rate was 0.82% in 2000. and divorce rate was 0.4% in 2000.
So, there is is indeed a significant reduction in number of actual marriages. with a larger drop in divorces

 

[Yinko]

The average person doesn't have a 50% change of getting divorced, the reason it seems so high is due to serial divorce: a person whose first marriage ended in divorce is much more likely to have their second marriage end in divorce, and so on.

There are certainly types. Divorces among marriages which include college educated women are 90% instigated by women. Whether you think this is because the collegiate system corrupts, or because credentials imply opportunity is up to you.

I suppose, the argument on the plus side would be that; if less marriages are happening then only those who are serious are getting married, while all the hoes are just skipping the divorce stage of their metamorphosis.