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Marduk

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Okay. And was that really so difficult.

Except oh wait. Your still attacking the person. Instead of what the actual argument was in this instance. This isn’t about Europe’s infrastructure or the EU’s treatment of refugees.

(To which, by the way, my stance is; the less China is in Europe the better and Europe should look after its own damn infrastructure. As for the EU and migrants; as far as I’m concerned every single one of the economic migrants should be sent packing with their tails between their legs. Heck, find a way to bill them for their stay if it can be done. The only refugees that Europe should be taking in are ones from either Ukraine or Russia. Especially those who are trying to escape the war zones or being drafted.)
What arguments? Virtue signalling dramatics and what a journo from a leftist outlet supposedly told her? That's not even worth calling an argument. I struggle to understand why are you so insistent on trying to make me take the rantings of some leftist bullshitter as something worth taking seriously. Her word holds no credibility for me, unless there is such a thing as negative credibility.
 

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Nice to see you admit you don’t believe anything that goes against The Narrative then. Always suspected it but nice to have it confirmed.

So I guess this means I can ignore anything you say or present out of hand as well. I could reel off all sorts of nice names and labels I could slap onto you. But I won’t.
Yes, and you will trust anything that goes against the 'narrative', without doing much critical thinking or further background research, and take known commies at face value if they say something against the 'narrative' you oppose.

Face it, all you care about now is if something goes against 'the narrative', not whether it's true, not whether it's commie lies/manipulations of info, not whether critical thinking can easily debunk it, not whether you are just knee jerk believing things because they go against the 'narrative'.

You are worse than useless to listen to when it comes to Ukraine.
 

King Arts

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The person making the argument is a treasonous red idiot, and the argument is one typical for treasonous red idiots, as in, it's treasonous, it's red and it's idiotic. What else can i say about the argument?
Do you seriously expect me to give a single grain of trust to something a leftist in middle of a virtue signalling rant says?
This is a silly argument she is Irish why would an Irish person being favorably to Russia or China be treason? I could understand if it was Britain. But neither nation is a threat to the Irish like the UK is. The Brits were the one who oppress and now marginalize the Irish. You can’t betray Europe because it isn’t a thing like nations are.
 

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This is a silly argument she is Irish why would an Irish person being favorably to Russia or China be treason? I could understand if it was Britain. But neither nation is a threat to the Irish like the UK is. The Brits were the one who oppress and now marginalize the Irish. You can’t betray Europe because it isn’t a thing like nations are.
Comes with the territory of being a labourite. You may doubt the reliability of this calculation, but look at her other political positions, like clockwork...
Simping for China, and especially China's interests in own country, is also in a way quite treasonous if you live in a free country that wants to stay that way.
As for Russia, in her case, it's has more to do with her useful idiot ideology than anything else, but still, being a useful idiot is no benefit to the country.
 

King Arts

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Comes with the territory of being a labourite. You may doubt the reliability of this calculation, but look at her other political positions, like clockwork...
Simping for China, and especially China's interests in own country, is also in a way quite treasonous if you live in a free country that wants to stay that way.
As for Russia, in her case, it's has more to do with her useful idiot ideology than anything else, but still, being a useful idiot is no benefit to the country.
It also doesn’t hurt treason must hurt the nation you are a part of.
 

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If that's what an Irish self-declared socialist who simps for China thinks, i support Ukraine more knowing that.
Lol, lazy much?

You just parrot the same empty attacks against sources you dislike over and over, verbatim.

Is she wrong or not?

IS the publication she is quoting wrong or not?

Oh, yeah, she cites The Economist at least in part, which is a well-known liberal globaist rag that has NO LOVE FOR PUTIN AND RUSSIA and that has platformed the likes of Anne Applebaum on numerous occasions.

We just keep going back to the good old Marduk cycle.

>REE, ANYONE WHO DOES NOT AGREE WITH ME IS A LEFTY.
>REE, ANYONE WHO DOES NOT AGREE WITH ME IS A PUTIN SHILL.
>REE, ANYONE WHO DOES NOT AGREE WITH ME HATES DEMOCRACY.

PATHETIC.
 
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mrttao

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Americans in favor of putin rose from from 15% all the way up to 21% despite nonstop propaganda.

The video actually shows a Putin speech.
Where he does not talk about "empire" or any such.
No, he talks about fighting for religion against the evils of the woke cultists and the horror that the groomer movement is inflicting upon children.
 

Megadeath

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Americans in favor of putin rose from from 15% all the way up to 21% despite nonstop propaganda.

The video actually shows a Putin speech.
Where he does not talk about "empire" or any such.
No, he talks about fighting for religion against the evils of the woke cultists and the horror that the groomer movement is inflicting upon children.

Lying liar lies, losers lap it up.
 

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Uh, if true, UK was one malfunctioning Russian missile away from a Russian pilot shooting down one of the UK's manned surveillance aircraft back in September due to thinking the Russian ground radar operator had ordered such.

Next time vatnik's cry about 'muh NATO escalation', show them this.
 

AmosTrask

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Uh, if true, UK was one malfunctioning Russian missile away from a Russian pilot shooting down one of the UK's manned surveillance aircraft back in September due to thinking the Russian ground radar operator had ordered such.

Next time vatnik's cry about 'muh NATO escalation', show them this.

You can also show them the horrid video some drunk Russian soldiers just posted on Telegram. Of them beating then holding down a Ukrainian soldier and beheading him badly. The idiot was so drunk he fumbled the stroke and the Ukrainian took two more swings before he died. The Vatnik bastard had to work a few more swings to behead him. Fucking savages!

Incompetent idiots! You're supposed to kill a man with the first swing. Anything else is a dishonor on your part and demonstrates your lack of skill!
 

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You can also show them the horrid video some drunk Russian soldiers just posted on Telegram. Of them beating then holding down a Ukrainian soldier and beheading him badly. The idiot was so drunk he fumbled the stroke and the Ukrainian took two more swings before he died. The Vatnik bastard had to work a few more swings to behead him. Fucking savages!

Incompetent idiots! You're supposed to kill a man with the first swing. Anything else is a dishonor on your part and demonstrates your lack of skill!
They wernt random drunks.
They were the neonazi group in Vagner
 
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