Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

[Blasterbot]

yup been in the thread for a while. honestly watching you guys fight is why i keep following the thread. that said i draw on many sources and man is it tiring to see how entitled euros feel to our protection and support.

 

[Batrix2070]

Me: Hello, fellow Eastern European Slav right or centrist, have you thought that perhaps tour bellicose attitude towards Russia robs you of flexibility in your international relations and that maybe your prophecy about them coming in and kicking your asses again is a self-fullfilling prophecy?

Hi naive moron who will never border with Russia. There is no such thing as flexibility with Russia. There are only accomplished and undone facts.

And the facts are that our interest is contrary to yours, and we will without hesitation consign your interest to the dustbin. Thank the Russians, they are the ones who taught us this kind of thinking.

Another fact is, why the fuck should we sacrifice our own peace of mind for you? So many times in history we've had to do it, we've had fucking enough and no moron wanting a Russian dick will stop us in this.

I'll say it again, why should we once again get around the taste of our own prosperity and the like so that some shitty assholes can continue to spin ice cream with the Russkies? Because it's not you who will have Russian troops on the other side of the Bug but us. It is not you who will have to live with the memory that as soon as there is an opportunity for Russia to go west, it will do so.

 

[Agent23]

Hi naive moron who will never border with Russia. There is no such thing as flexibility with Russia. There are only accomplished and undone facts.

Excuse me, are you familiar with this thing called the Black Sea ?

The Black Sea is a marginal mediterranean sea of the Atlantic Ocean lying between Europe and Asia, east of the Balkans, south of the East European Plain, west of the Caucasus, and north of Anatolia. It is bounded by Bulgaria, Georgia, Romania, Russia, Turkey, and Ukraine.

You were saying?

We are literally closer to the continuous Russian Federation than you are.

And the facts are that our interest is contrary to yours, and we will without hesitation consign your interest to the dustbin. Thank the Russians, they are the ones who taught us this kind of thinking.

Another fact is, why the fuck should we sacrifice our own peace of mind for you? So many times in history we've had to do it, we've had fucking enough and no moron wanting a Russian dick will stop us in this.

>Hates bear.
>Demands the whole village form a mob with him at the lead and go poke the bear.

I'll say it again, why should we once again get around the taste of our own prosperity and the like so that some shitty assholes can continue to spin ice cream with the Russkies?

Wanna go fuck with the Russkies?
Go ahead, I am not stopping you, but I don't see why the rest of NATO and the EU need to be dragged along, have fun reenacting that scene from revenant for the 3rd time.

Because it's not you who will have Russian troops on the other side of the Bug but us. It is not you who will have to live with the memory that as soon as there is an opportunity for Russia to go west, it will do so.

So, we have had Greeks, and Serbs, and Turks as neighbors for quite a while now, out history with all of them is longer and more bitter than your mutual tussles with the Russians, put on your big boy pants and grow up.

France mended it's problems first with the British and then with Germany.

You poles are not special.

 

[Batrix2070]

You poles are not special.

Yes that we are not, just as the Bulgarians are not. The problem is that, contrary to Russian propaganda, we have renounced our claim to the east. As a matter of fact, we are able to communicate with Germany, but the Russians understand the agreement through Poland sits quietly and does not interfere when we rebuild our Empire. Poland, moreover, should return under our roofs. If she does not like it and demands independence for them, she is aggressive.

>Hates bear.
>Demands the whole village form a mob with him at the lead and go poke the bear.

>The bear, after a period of licking its wounds, returns to oppress nations.
>Poland tells him to stop.
>The bear accuses Poland of the evils of the whole world.
>Poland is looking for people willing to stop the Bear in its current borders.
>Bear accuses Poland of hating Russia.
>Bear tells that Poland pokes him with a stick, when he himself pokes other small nations with a stick to break their heads.
>Says that Poland could use a visit from the Russian Military.
>Bear is surprised that Poland seriously pulls out a stick and starts sharpening it with the help of overseas peoples to use it on Bear.

Wanna go fuck with the Russkies?

No, we want the damn Russians to stop behaving like savages. They took care of their own bardak behavior, not extend it to other nations that don't want it.
If they need to be knocked on the head for that, I'd love it.

Go ahead, I am not stopping you, but I don't see why the rest of NATO and the EU need to be dragged along, have fun reenacting that scene from revenant for the 3rd time.

Excuse me very much but what fairy tale are you living in? NATO was established as an anti-Soviet/anti-Russian alliance. The only point of this alliance is to fight Russia! It serves no other purpose! You Bulgarians must be seriously fucked up to wonder why Poland is calling for an anti-Russian alliance to crack down on Russia.

The EU, on the other hand, does not have an army, but instead has members who will be threatened by Russia and do not wish Russia so close to them. If it seriously wants to represent the countries of Europe it should take this into account. And as it happens, it doesn't have few of them at all.

Excuse me, are you familiar with this thing called the Black Sea ?
You were saying?

Yes, the Maritime border. Certainly this is a serious threat from a nation that, as we have seen, is showing off incredibly on the seas. Not at all a land power which is easier to fight on land and attack from there.

 

[Marduk]

If you are gonna be calling Ron Paul an idiot it really cements to me that Euros have no gratitude to what america has been doing. we clearly have been giving you folks a free ride for too long. we need to set our own house in order at this point.

How? Just what's the connection there? How much of Ron Paul's international political agenda is there left if you subtract complaining about "what america has been doing", and how much of it was done because of Ron Paul? As much as i sympathize with his ideas in terms of economy, in terms of international matters, well, Libertarian Party always considered that an afterthought at best, if they start talking about this stuff it never helps their case.

Reee....

Shiiiiilllll....

Yes, yes, if you can't kill the messenger then kill the message, we all know you are itching to do that you coward and hypocrite.

Your messengers aren't even trying to pretend that they aren't whacko shills, and their messages (*insert standard Russia shilling*) aren't worth anyone's time to debate (they were debated enough for the first few months) which again and again when you are just going to call that reeeing, so fuck off.

Should i spam the thread with 2 separate, video only non comment posts of pro-Ukrainian propaganda videos for every one of yours and see which one of us gets threadbanned quicker or are we going to settle it in some other way?

So, when are you gonna go kill Dem evil Muskal Commies in the DonBass, eh?

When you give me the number for joining NATO mercenaries who according to your shills get all the real results there and then join their target gallery, jeez you are as stubborn as you are stupid.

 

[Agent23]

Yes that we are not, just as the Bulgarians are not. The problem is that, contrary to Russian propaganda, we have renounced our claim to the east.

Um, yeah, that is why you guys were considering retaking Volin and Lovov and you have allegedly restored the Polish triangle, you have also pushes together with the Americans for stuff like the three seas I initiative, the expansion of NATO and you have been massively bellicose where Russia is concerned and a huge supporter of Ukraine.

Well, we have a saying here, the people you get together with are the people you become.

As a matter of fact, we are able to communicate with Germany, but the Russians understand the agreement through Poland sits quietly and does not interfere when we rebuild our Empire. Poland, moreover, should return under our roofs. If she does not like it and demands independence for them, she is aggressive.

>The bear, after a period of licking its wounds, returns to oppress nations.

Yeah, nations with large Russian minorities and/or pro-Russian sentiments thet the local thugs want to exterminate.

>Poland tells him to stop.
>The bear accuses Poland of the evils of the whole world.
>Poland is looking for people willing to stop the Bear in its current borders.
>Bear accuses Poland of hating Russia.
>Bear tells that Poland pokes him with a stick, when he himself pokes other small nations with a stick to break their heads.
>Says that Poland could use a visit from the Russian Military.
>Bear is surprised that Poland seriously pulls out a stick and starts sharpening it with the help of overseas peoples to use it on Bear.

Poland kicks the best, then turns around and huffs and says "I, it is not like I like you, B-baka..."

Explain to me, Pole, what have the Russians done since 1991 to infringe upon your territorial integrity?

Humm, can't think of anything...

No, we want the damn Russians to stop behaving like savages. They took care of their own bardak behavior, not extend it to other nations that don't want it.
If they need to be knocked on the head for that, I'd love it.

Like what exactly?

Excuse me very much but what fairy tale are you living in? NATO was established as an anti-Soviet/anti-Russian alliance. The only point of this alliance is to fight Russia! It serves no other purpose! You Bulgarians must be seriously fucked up to wonder why Poland is calling for an anti-Russian alliance to crack down on Russia.

The EU, on the other hand, does not have an army, but instead has members who will be threatened by Russia and do not wish Russia so close to them. If it seriously wants to represent the countries of Europe it should take this into account. And as it happens, it doesn't have few of them at all.

Pfftt, yeah, sure, Russia needs to rebuild the Russian Empire, no matter what...

Stop hallucinating.

Yes, the Maritime border. Certainly this is a serious threat from a nation that, as we have seen, is showing off incredibly on the seas. Not at all a land power which is easier to fight on land and attack from there.

They also have aircraft, and jets, and they do plan to improve their navy significantly.

Aldo, you really aren't getting my points about Tuekey and Greece, and Serbia, and Romania, hell, even the belligerent Makedoniand who have territorial claims on us and hate hate us as much as the Ukrainian nationalists hate the 'Muskals'.

I am wondering, how do our small vials of rose oil became so hated by the Ukrainians.

 

[Agent23]

How? Just what's the connection there? How much of Ron Paul's international political agenda is there left if you subtract complaining about "what america has been doing", and how much of it was done because of Ron Paul? As much as i sympathize with his ideas in terms of economy, in terms of international matters, well, Libertarian Party always considered that an afterthought at best, if they start talking about this stuff it never helps their case.

Reee!!!

Shiiiiilllll....

Reee!

Your messengers aren't even trying to pretend that they aren't whacko shills, and their messages (*insert standard Russia shilling*) aren't worth anyone's time to debate (they were debated enough for the first few months) which again and again when you are just going to call that reeeing, so fuck off.

Should i spam the thread with 2 separate, video only non comment posts of pro-Ukrainian propaganda videos for every one of yours and see which one of us gets threadbanned quicker or are we going to settle it in some other way?

Reee!

When you give me the number for joining NATO mercenaries who according to your shills get all the real results there and then join their target gallery, jeez you are as stubborn as you are stupid.

What are you gonna give me, you freeloading welfare queen?

 

[Batrix2070]

Um, yeah, that is why you guys were considering retaking Volin and Lovov and you have allegedly restored the Polish triangle, you have also pushes together with the Americans for stuff like the three seas I initiative, the expansion of NATO and you have been massively bellicose where Russia is concerned and a huge supporter of Ukraine.

Well, we have a saying here, the people you get together with are the people you become.

You know what. You made me laugh. AFTER ALL, THIS IS LIKE FROM RUSSIAN PROPANGAD TV!

And this reminds me of an old Jewish joke.

Goldberg reading "Der Sturmer" on the street is approached by Silberstein and says with distaste:
- Isaac, I'm surprised that you read this rag!!!!
To which Golberg:
- Because when I read our magazines, it's only: here a pogrom, there anti-Semitism, here they desecrated the Synagogue.... And when I read this - it's immediately: the Jews have mastered the banks! Jews rule the construction market! Jews rule the world! And it is pleasant to read it!

Yeah, nations with large Russian minorities and/or pro-Russian sentiments thet the local thugs want to exterminate.

Hmm, I wonder how they got there. How and why.

Maybe just the answer to where they got there from is the answer to why the nations there are trying to get rid of them? So that big Russia doesn't try to take care of them?

Poland kicks the best, then turns around and huffs and says "I, it is not like I like you, B-baka..."

Russian propaganda episode next. Fuck, what do you think we should do? Get down on our knees and give the Russians a blowjob because you morons want Russian resources? We kicked the Russkies out, we're trying to keep them out. And you have the nerve to claim that we kicked the ass of the "better" than ourselves?

This is a rump, a nightmare and a terrorist not "better". If anyone is better here it's us.

Explain to me, Pole, what have the Russians done since 1991 to infringe upon your territorial integrity?

Humm, can't think of anything...

Oh, so we make a big dash and separate Russia's past from Russia itself (despite the fact that Russia has a creepy draw to its Empire), and start with a clean slate for Russia?

Well, they made a good showing. As soon as they unwound the opening to the world, they started doing "clean-ups" which are strangely reminiscent of collecting the lands of the former empire back. First Chechnya, then Georgia. Now Ukraine. One has to be frighteningly shortsighted and have a hole in one's memory not to see the consequences in these actions.

Like what exactly?

Russia is synonymous with a failed state, mass divorces. Highest HIV and AIDS rates in Europe. Mafia, corruption. Decaying infrastructure in the provinces. It's a bardak (or Mess in Russian), let them clean it up first and not leave it as is. And what's worse, they're expanding it to other countries because they're so inept at gaining resources that they have to steal them from someone else.

Pfftt, yeah, sure, Russia needs to rebuild the Russian Empire, no matter what...

>Putin says the collapse of the USSR is the greatest tragedy of the 20th century.
>He is doing something called putting the Empire back together, referring to the time of the Greatness of this country, while promoting militarism.
>Some Bulgarian tells me that I am hallucinating.

ldo, you really aren't getting my points about Tuekey and Greece, and Serbia, and Romania, hell, even the belligerent Makedoniand who have territorial claims on us and hate hate us as much as the Ukrainian nationalists hate the 'Muskals'.

Super i? It is Russia that is aggressive, not Poland.

It is Russia that denies other nations their right to independence and tries to erase them from existence because it believes they never existed. You can only get along if both sides agree to the current status quo and not one tries to aggressively gain advantage over the other by tearing them down.

Russia has shown clearly that it is untrustworthy unless you give it a slap on the wrist. It will pout and push forward until it gets in its face. Then she'll pretend it's not her hand or face and walk away.

 

[Marduk]

Reee!!!

Reee!

Reee!

What are you gonna give me, you freeloading welfare queen?

A single use UCAV to your position, coming in at high velocity.

 

[Agent23]

You know what. You made me laugh. AFTER ALL, THIS IS LIKE FROM RUSSIAN PROPANGAD TV!

And this reminds me of an old Jewish joke.

Goldberg reading "Der Sturmer" on the street is approached by Silberstein and says with distaste:
- Isaac, I'm surprised that you read this rag!!!!
To which Golberg:
- Because when I read our magazines, it's only: here a pogrom, there anti-Semitism, here they desecrated the Synagogue.... And when I read this - it's immediately: the Jews have mastered the banks! Jews rule the construction market! Jews rule the world! And it is pleasant to read it!

Good one, I have another.

An old man is asked at what point of his life he felt the best, under Stalin, under Khrushchev, under Brezhnev or under Yeltsin.
"Under Stalin" days the grandpa, "things were shit back then, too, but st least I could get it up."

Now, are we done with the silly jokes...?

Hmm, I wonder how they got there. How and why.

Maybe just the answer to where they got there from is the answer to why the nations there are trying to get rid of them? So that big Russia doesn't try to take care of them?

Russian propaganda episode next. Fuck, what do you think we should do? Get down on our knees and give the Russians a blowjob because you morons want Russian resources? We kicked the Russkies out, we're trying to keep them out. And you have the nerve to claim that we kicked the ass of the "better" than ourselves?

You certainly seem to get obsessed with sexual details, what is the matter, can't get it up or can't get someone else to get it back down.

This is a rump, a nightmare and a terrorist not "better". If anyone is better here it's us.

Oh, so we make a big dash and separate Russia's past from Russia itself (despite the fact that Russia has a creepy draw to its Empire), and start with a clean slate for Russia?

Well, they made a good showing. As soon as they unwound the opening to the world, they started doing "clean-ups" which are strangely reminiscent of collecting the lands of the former empire back. First Chechnya, then Georgia. Now Ukraine. One has to be frighteningly shortsighted and have a hole in one's memory not to see the consequences in these actions.

NATO still expanding after Bush Sr. Told the Russians "not an inch farther East..."

Russia is synonymous with a failed state, mass divorces. Highest HIV and AIDS rates in Europe. Mafia, corruption. Decaying infrastructure in the provinces. It's a bardak (or Mess in Russian),

We have the same word in Bulgarian, Poliak, I know what a bardak is, and I see no reason why you are talking g about internal issues like AIDS and crime rates when we are discussing Russia's relations with the world.
Could it be because you try to dehumanize the 'Sirry Muskals'...

let them clean it up first and not leave it as is. And what's worse, they're expanding it to other countries because they're so inept at gaining resources that they have to steal them from someone else.

Oh, boy, back to the toilets again...

>Putin says the collapse of the USSR is the greatest tragedy of the 20th century.

Why don't you look at the other held of the quote?
It end with ...because millions of Russians became homeless.

>He is doing something called putting the Empire back together, referring to the time of the Greatness of this country, while promoting militarism.

Yup having foreign backed militants trying to art up an ISIS-like caliphate on your territory is certainly a good thing...(Chechnya)
Georgia - don't remember what happened and don't care, honestly, but I think they had a sizable pro-Russian minority thet wanted out, too.

>Some Bulgarian tells me that I am hallucinating.


Super i? It is Russia that is aggressive, not Poland.

Yup, when a bunch of stetelets around you join a large military alliance, attack you verbally and disenfranchise parts of their populations thet consider themselves part of your country while plotting sanctions and color revolutions and how to aprtition yours that is not threatening.
Oh, and what about bombing the shit out of a country you have close cultural links to and then partition it, because w bunch of Albanian gengsters and organ traffickers decided to be statesmen...

It is Russia that denies other nations their right to independence and tries to erase them from existence because it believes they never existed.

Yeah, sure, keep on hallucinating.

You can only get along if both sides agree to the current status quo and not one tries to aggressively gain advantage over the other by tearing them down.

Ok, when exactly has Russia attacked you in the past 30 years, not other countries, you?

Russia has shown clearly that it is untrustworthy unless you give it a slap on the wrist. It will pout and push forward until it gets in its face. Then she'll pretend it's not her hand or face and walk away.

Ah, Polish fantasies of abusing Russia, that probably less to something more spicy...

 

[Agent23]

A single use UCAV to your position, coming in at high velocity.

Maybe your friends in Ukraine will let you keep one if you go fight for them.

 

[Batrix2070]

Good one, I have another.

An old man is asked at what point of his life he felt the best, under Stalin, under Khrushchev, under Brezhnev or under Yeltsin.
"Under Stalin" days the grandpa, "things were shit back then, too, but st least I could get it up."

Now, are we done with the silly jokes...?

You certainly seem to get obsessed with sexual details, what is the matter, can't get it up or can't get someone else to get it back down.

NATO still expanding after Bush Sr. Told the Russians "not an inch farther East..."

We have the same word in Bulgarian, Poliak, I know what a bardak is, and I see no reason why you are talking g about internal issues like AIDS and crime rates when we are discussing Russia's relations with the world.
Could it be because you try to dehumanize the 'Sirry Muskals'...

Oh, boy, back to the toilets again...

Why don't you look at the other held of the quote?
It end with ...because millions of Russians became homeless.

Yup having foreign backed militants trying to art up an ISIS-like caliphate on your territory is certainly a good thing...(Chechnya)
Georgia - don't remember what happened and don't care, honestly, but I think they had a sizable pro-Russian minority thet wanted out, too.

Yup, when a bunch of stetelets around you join a large military alliance, attack you verbally and disenfranchise parts of their populations thet consider themselves part of your country while plotting sanctions and color revolutions and how to aprtition yours that is not threatening.
Oh, and what about bombing the shit out of a country you have close cultural links to and then partition it, because w bunch of Albanian gengsters and organ traffickers decided to be statesmen...

Yeah, sure, keep on hallucinating.

Ok, when exactly has Russia attacked you in the past 30 years, not other countries, you?

Ah, Polish fantasies of abusing Russia, that probably less to something more spicy...

That is, we continue to play the idiot.

No, this is a waste of time. You are either really that stupid or you are being paid to do this.

Regardless of the answer, it makes no sense. Because these are bloody ramblings.

This is such a display of dullness that I don't fucking know what to say. You really justify Russia in its conquests and it doesn't bother you one bit.

Worse, you are all too willing to distort the whole point of NATO just because you are on Russia's side.

Besides, what is there to say about a man who doesn't mind Russia invading and stealing from its neighbors. Russia that does everything to justify hating itself. But, not cool let this cancer grow further until it becomes a real threat to half of Europe.

One has to be a detached person to not see what this policy is leading to....
Or just want it to happen. You fucking want it don't you?

You want a Great Russia destroying others under any pretest. You don't even try for a moment to understand why its neighbors don't want Russian plans and are trying to get rid of Russians from their territory, because Russia once liberated you and wasn't so bad at all, or at least that's what you were taught.

At the same time, you treat any attempt to stop her as fantasies. When we are seriously going to do it because we are fucking fed up with Russia and its perpetual machinations. And Central and Eastern Europe is not Russia's backyard, they are free and independent countries and Russia has nothing to do with what they intend to do. And if she doesn't like it, no problem Russians can always die.

 

[Marduk]

That is, we continue to play the idiot.

No, this is a waste of time. You are either really that stupid or you are being paid to do this.

He's not some ordinary idiot, he is an absolute crackpot, representing an even more exotic and crazy variation of euroasianism than Dugin's.

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Nope, not even close.
A simp for Orthodox slavic-tatar civilization and a form of Eurasianism maybe, but we Bulgarians were doing all of that before it was cool or before there was a Rus.
In essence we made them the way the UK made the US.

 

[Agent23]

He's not some ordinary idiot, he is an absolute crackpot, representing an even more exotic and crazy variation of euroasianism than Dugin's.

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www.the-sietch.com

Aww, ain't that cute, the hens got tired of quacking at the rooster, so they quack about the rooster at each-other....

 

[Batrix2070]

Aww, ain't that cute, the hens got tired of quacking at the rooster, so they quack about the rooster at each-other....

You are pathetic, you know?

 

[Terthna]

USA military is a paper tiger.
It has some good military equipment. Which is going to waste in the hands of USA "soldiers". (those women and social cases are not really soldiers).

There are some actual soldiers, but they are demoralized and constantly under attack by their own so called leadership.

Not to mention the outright sabotage to the tech being done. like that idiotic push to switch to biodiesel.

You're ignoring the fact that everyone else's military isn't any better even on that front. China, for example, spends more time indoctrinating their soldiers than training them, while Russia's has been exposed as little more than cannon fodder. As for most of Europe; well, their militaries may as well be considered vestigial at this point, with how little they choose to invest in either equipment or manpower.

 

[Agent23]

That is, we continue to play the idiot.

Glad you agree on at least one or two things.

No, this is a waste of time.

Yup.

You are either really that stupid or you are being paid to do this.

I wish I was getting paid for dealing with Marduk, trust me!
He just pays me by forcing me to laugh hysterically.

Regardless of the answer, it makes no sense. Because these are bloody ramblings.

Ok, you are starting to sound repetitive, and mopey.

This is such a display of dullness that I don't fucking know what to say. You really justify Russia in its conquests and it doesn't bother you one bit.

Chechnya was an internal thing.
Georgia was a case of Russia supporting some separatist thet prefer to be part of it.
Not that different from NATO/USA's bullshit where Kosovo and Serbia are involved.
And let us not get into all of the stupid, pointless interventions the USA and NATO have been part of in the last few decades, we will be here all day, I view Russia's intervention in Georgia as less evil than what NATO did in Kosovo, even though I hate the Serbs, too.

Worse, you are all too willing to distort the whole point of NATO just because you are on Russia's side.

Besides, what is there to say about a man who doesn't mind Russia invading and stealing from its neighbors. Russia that does everything to justify hating itself. But, not cool let this cancer grow further until it becomes a real threat to half of Europe.

Yeah, sure, are we gonna talk about toilets again?
And chips from dishwashers put into missiles and jets?
Yawn.

One has to be a detached person to not see what this policy is leading to....
Or just want it to happen. You fucking want it don't you?

You want a Great Russia destroying others under any pretest. You don't even try for a moment to understand why its neighbors don't want Russian plans and are trying to get rid of Russians from their territory, because Russia once liberated you and wasn't so bad at all, or at least that's what you were taught.

Ah, yes, once again, the you disagree with me so you must be evil/want want my destruction spiel.
Not working, bud.

At the same time, you treat any attempt to stop her as fantasies. When we are seriously going to do it because we are fucking fed up with Russia and its perpetual machinations. And Central and Eastern Europe is not Russia's backyard, they are free and independent countries and Russia has nothing to do with what they intend to do. And if she doesn't like it, no problem Russians can always die.

Replace those names with USA and Central and South America, see how it went.

Monroe doctrine, banana wars, endless CIA coups, Cuban Missile Crisis...

 

[Agent23]

You are pathetic, you know?

I am sorry, do you prefer ducks?

Your bellicose ruling party's name does sound like the word duck.

 

[Batrix2070]

Replace those names with USA and Central and South America, see how it went.

Monroe doctrine, banana wars, endless CIA coups, Cuban Missile Crisis...

Well now go and tell the Russians that they are fucking stupid and should stop because the US did the same thing and fucked up....
And no wait, they will laugh at you!

Ah, yes, once again, the you disagree with me so you must be evil/want want my destruction spiel.
Not working, bud.

No, you're just dumb.
I disagree with your position because it is detached from reality and foolish.
Bad is Russia, you're just fucked.

Ok, you are starting to sound repetitive, and mopey.

Because you keep repeating yourself, so the answers must also be repetitive. Because you can see they don't want to reach your brain.

Chechnya was an internal thing.
Georgia was a case of Russia supporting some separatist thet prefer to be part of it.
Not that different from NATO/USA's bullshit where Kosovo and Serbia are involved.
And let us not get into all of the stupid, pointless interventions the USA and NATO have been part of in the last few decades, we will be here all day, I view Russia's intervention in Georgia as less evil than what NATO did in Kosovo, even though I hate the Serbs, too.

Chechnya a private affair of Russia so they have no right to independence.

Georgia, on the other hand, does not have the right to recognize the separatists as a private matter and Russia has the right to swoop in there and tear off a piece of land.

Well, that's cool. If that's the case, then you have no right to criticize Kosovo because you consider the Russian Invasion of Georgia less bad. Because such an argument can only be used when you don't support such actions.

Yup.

Then why do you keep wasting your time on this forum?

I am sorry, do you prefer ducks?

Your bellicose ruling party's name does sound like the word duck.

None, just keep quiet.

And it's the leader of a party, not even militant but simply anti-Russian and deeply distrustful, is called a Duck. That is, Kaczynski. (Though it's a malicious nickname given to him by leftists.)

Russia carrying out the invasion of Ukraine only justified any fears. And being hostile to it.

 

[Agent23]

Well now go and tell the Russians that they are fucking stupid and should stop because the US did the same thing and fucked up....
And no wait, they will laugh at you!

It is called Realpolitik.

No, you're just dumb.

Have we devolved to kindergarten levels?

I disagree with your position because it is detached from reality and foolish.
Bad is Russia, you're just fucked.

The what now?

Because you keep repeating yourself, so the answers must also be repetitive. Because you can see they don't want to reach your brain.

Chechnya a private affair of Russia so they have no right to independence.

Georgia, on the other hand, does not have the right to recognize the separatists as a private matter and Russia has the right to swoop in there and tear off a piece of land.

Hello, Texas, anyone?!?

If small separatist country A that split off from larger country B and parts of a A want back into B enough to start an insurgency in country A to the level where the forces in country A can't suppress it then I think at some point the speratists will win out one way or the other.

Also, comparing the wanna e Taliban to normal separatists is comparing lung cancer to common cold.

Well, that's cool. If that's the case, then you have no right to criticize Kosovo because you consider the Russian Invasion of Georgia less bad. Because such an argument can only be used when you don't support such actions.

As I have said to the other rbeomekokoshka, the Russians both have a history of controlling the region and the fact that the Donbass is populated by Russians.

Then why do you keep wasting your time on this forum?

None, just keep quiet.

A lot of people agree with me on this topic, you are not the owner, you have no authority to tell me what to think and what I can and can not day.

And it's the leader of a party, not even militant but simply anti-Russian and deeply distrustful, is called a Duck. That is, Kaczynski. (Though it's a malicious nickname given to him by leftists.)

Haha, ok,bronepatok...

Russia carrying out the invasion of Ukraine only justified any fears. And being hostile to it.

Russia tried to negotiate multiple times, Minsk 1 and 2, anyone?