Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

[AmosTrask]

Freedom and Chocolates! It feels like only LESS THAN A YEAR AGO that Kazakhstan had a bit of a domestic hiccup going on, but that was so long ago lol.

🤣 that poor actor. I blame the bad lighting, but I belive that was a young man. It's supposed to be a draft dodger fleeing to Kazakhstan.

 

[Buba]

You do realize that Putin saved Takaev's ass about an year ago, right?

I had no idea.
I don't follow international news that much.

Also, great idea, because the large Turkish Fifth Column and the refugees he is using as leverage are not enough for Erdogan, and we should hand over control over our energy transit to him...

Putin, Erdogan, the Ayatollahs - that's the choice ...
To misquote Marylin Monroe (or some other strumpet) - Putins and Erdogans come and go, but pipelines are forever.

 

[Agent23]

I had no idea.
I don't follow international news that much.

Putin, Erdogan, the Ayatollahs - that's the choice ...
To misquote Marylin Monroe (or some other strumpet) - Putins and Erdogans come and go, but pipelines are forever.

Not if the UK is involved and a bonde idiot Karen is PM.

 

[King Arts]

They're rubbing it in.

I mean are they wrong? Obviously it’s best to bring them both but the decorated marine should have had priority.

 

[AmosTrask]

Well. This is suspicious as all hell. Lol. Someone in Procurement got bribed.

 

[Bassoe]

pipelines are forever

Not if America has anything to say about it, lol.

Well. This is suspicious as all hell. Lol. Someone in Procurement got bribed.

And of fucking course we got this. Apparently it isn't enough to just live in a cyberpunk dystopia, we needed the aesthetics.

 

[Arch Dornan]

I mean are they wrong? Obviously it’s best to bring them both but the decorated marine should have had priority.

It's an easy mockery to have a laugh over.

The military-industrial complex in a nutshell. Honestly I wonder sometimes if they don't fuck things up on purpose so as to draw out the development phase after they have the contract as an excuse to milk more money out of it.

I believe they are.

 

[bintananth]

Not if America has anything to say about it, lol.

I'm pretty sure the US wasn't responsible for that one because the US gov't isn't that precise when throwing a temper tantrum.

 

[AmosTrask]

Not if America has anything to say about it, lol.

I'm pretty sure the US wasn't responsible for that one because the US gov't isn't that precise when throwing a temper tantrum.

It's leaning to an Eastern Power. I'm quite sure American demolition charges don't have traces of chemical signatures that closely matches current generation Semtex derivatives.

 

[History Learner]

It's leaning to an Eastern Power. I'm quite sure American demolition charges don't have traces of chemical signatures that closely matches current generation Semtex derivatives.

Speaking of which, I found this interesting as it helps explain Eastern European hawkishness on the war:



My prediction for the future of Europe is the collapse of the EU and probably NATO going forward, with a French bloc, a Turkish bloc and a Russian bloc dividing it between them and establishing a new "Concert" to rule the continent. Should Russia fail in the Ukraine War, however, replace them with the Polish lead Intermarium their political leadership is envisioning as described in the thread.

 

[WolfBear]

Should Russia fail in the Ukraine War, however, replace them with the Polish lead Intermarium their political leadership is envisioning as described in the thread.

Poland is both pro-NATO and pro-EU but wishes that the EU was more generous (less conditions) with funds.

 

[Captain X]

Poland is another country that should have wised up to the EU over the mass immigration thing and left.

 

[History Learner]

Poland is another country that should have wised up to the EU over the mass immigration thing and left.

Poland quietly accepted something like 200-400,000 immigrants in 2021. They also cucked on their Anti-Grooming stuff under EU fund pressure last year at the local level, then PiS used the excuse of the Ukraine War to not bring national legislation to a vote in February.

 

[Cherico]

Speaking of which, I found this interesting as it helps explain Eastern European hawkishness on the war:



My prediction for the future of Europe is the collapse of the EU and probably NATO going forward, with a French bloc, a Turkish bloc and a Russian bloc dividing it between them and establishing a new "Concert" to rule the continent. Should Russia fail in the Ukraine War, however, replace them with the Polish lead Intermarium their political leadership is envisioning as described in the thread.

well that and revenge, the poles have so much legit bad blood between them and russia its not even funny.

 

[ATP]

Speaking of which, I found this interesting as it helps explain Eastern European hawkishness on the war:



My prediction for the future of Europe is the collapse of the EU and probably NATO going forward, with a French bloc, a Turkish bloc and a Russian bloc dividing it between them and establishing a new "Concert" to rule the continent. Should Russia fail in the Ukraine War, however, replace them with the Polish lead Intermarium their political leadership is envisioning as described in the thread.

Ignorants.From 1410 to 1655 Poland was superpower,and do not have any bigger problems.
And we are not hawkish - only aware of fact,that soviets would kill us after they finish genociding Ukraine again.
soviets arleady failed in war - but,if they kill putin&friends and agree to become soviet junior ally against China,they would get Europe and could genocide anybody they want to genocide.

Fortunatelly,brave,brave sir putin is heroically fighting for China.I hope,that he would lead soviets for next 20 years - after that,Poland could be power again,becouse there would be very little soviets left.

Poland is another country that should have wised up to the EU over the mass immigration thing and left.

Indeed.But,we are lead by socialists,who belive in socialist Europe.In other worlds,idiots.
Only real alternative is german party lead by german agent.

well that and revenge, the poles have so much legit bad blood between them and russia its not even funny.

We had - but now,Russia is dead.But - we still have legit bad blood between us and soviets.

 

[History Learner]

well that and revenge, the poles have so much legit bad blood between them and russia its not even funny.

I'm not too convinced on that; the April 10th crash occurred in the context of Polish-Russian reconciliation. A lot of Anglophone views of Poland are shaped either by the Liberal opposition or PiS, given it's Pro-American Atlanticist stance leading to lots of English usuage by them. Back in the 2010s PiS launched a crackdown on Pro-Russian parties and Konfederja is, at the least, pretty neutral on the subject because of the Korwin wing; that party seems to be the future, given most young Poles support it while PiS is more of the Boomer party.

 

[WolfBear]

Poland quietly accepted something like 200-400,000 immigrants in 2021. They also cucked on their Anti-Grooming stuff under EU fund pressure last year at the local level, then PiS used the excuse of the Ukraine War to not bring national legislation to a vote in February.

Anti-grooming in what sense? And where did these immigrants come from? Because different places send different quality immigrants.

 

[Marduk]

Note that the top 3 non-EU immigrant countries for Poland now are Ukraine, Belarus and Russia, Ukraine being biggest by a huge margin. And even the more exotic locations that show up in top 10 are India, China and Vietnam, rather than the controversial ME and African migration.
So there isn't much common with typical migration patterns of western countries despite the number.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Immigration-to-Poland-by-country-of-origin-2020-Source-Statistics-Poland-Valid_fig3_361439384

 

[ATP]

I'm not too convinced on that; the April 10th crash occurred in the context of Polish-Russian reconciliation. A lot of Anglophone views of Poland are shaped either by the Liberal opposition or PiS, given it's Pro-American Atlanticist stance leading to lots of English usuage by them. Back in the 2010s PiS launched a crackdown on Pro-Russian parties and Konfederja is, at the least, pretty neutral on the subject because of the Korwin wing; that party seems to be the future, given most young Poles support it while PiS is more of the Boomer party.

Poor naive child.There was no reconciliation,german party ruling in Poland/PO/ did what germans wanted.
They acted as german puppets,not polis politicians.

There is no soviet supporting parties in Poland now - old polish commies serve whoever pay better/not putin anymore/ and Konfederacja get rid of Korwin and is anti-soviet now,too.

 

[History Learner]

Poor naive child.There was no reconciliation,german party ruling in Poland/PO/ did what germans wanted.
They acted as german puppets,not polis politicians.

This is really funny given the President at the time was both a member of PiS and the literal twin brother of the current leader of PiS.

There is no soviet supporting parties in Poland now - old polish commies serve whoever pay better/not putin anymore/ and Konfederacja get rid of Korwin and is anti-soviet now,too.

Given your statements above, it seems the same Russian supporters are still in power, no?