IndyFront
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This is why I think political and religious extremists should be considered mentally retarded
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This is why I think political and religious extremists should be considered mentally retarded
King Arts
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Muslims in Lebanon need to be kicked out.
To late, they are majority now
It wouldn't be as bad if Hezbollah wasn't allowed to keep its massive arsenal of weapons when every other militia and party disarmed. The only way for Lebanon to somehow move forward on its own is it Hezbollah is disarmed and booted from the country, then it can stop being a proxy for Iran and Syria and inviting Israel to bomb them whenver they get triggered. Lebanon can then finally rise or fall largely on its own merits.
I'd love to see Lebanon be a refuge for the long persecuted Christian minorities in the Middle East. By having powerful Christian political parties and militias there, allied with whatever local Muslim or Druze parties that exist, maybe it could happen.
Never gonna happen
Yeah, they will not surrender weapons without a fight, and they can put up a fight the other factions are rather unprepared for. It would basically take Israel and/or some western power coming in, killing all the hezbollocks who won's scurry to Syria or Iraq, and then killing everyone crying about killing the hezbollocks, and then kill everyone crying about killing hezbollock supporters, and then there might be a major enough change of power balance to make that happen, but that's a lot of killing for the standards of those who would need to be involved.
Not a genocide but close to one scale wise.
Lebanon is lost to the Christians as long as Hezbollah exists at a minimum, it won't save them with them gone but gets them close
What alliance? China is eating Moscov,and Iran is fifgting Turkey and izrael - which is not our fight.
I care about God,Poland and Honour.NATO is tool to made us safe,and EU is IV Reich in building.
So yes,i care more about iranian christians then our german enemies.
You supported removing american agent Hussain in Iraq,which lead to islamist ruling there now.You should care.
You want invasion on Iran,which,after Iraq fiasco,mean replacing one muslims with others,and killing/exiling christians.
So yes,you care - about finishing christians in Iran.
You want invasion on Iran,right? then you want war,murder of christians,and new worst islamist 20 years later.
I knew that,becouse we tried it with iraq.
You really do not knew history.Iranians always treated armenians well for muslims,they are doing so becouse it is part of their culture.For them their ancient heritage is as important as religion.
Jews in Iran live in peace,too.Even after all murders made by Mossad there.Against,old Iranian heritage.
And nobody here beat them or take their property or land.
And you could destroy it all,becouse...well,for no any reason,becouse nobody,even Izrael,would be happy with worst islamists ruling there.
You could not have good islam,only bad and worst.Now we have bad islam in iran - so,we should not change that,becouse what replace it would be worst.Or,at least as bad.
P.S answer after few weeks,i really do not like say the same thing every day.Could you made another mistake then usual?
You would find no less enemies in Iran than Germany, yet you simp for the mythical handful of Christians in Iran, not in Germany. Even though allies in Germany are far more important for us than in Iran or Armenia.
If you care more about Russia's allies in Middle East than about our NATO allies, they you are a treacherous idiot like the leftists.
Iran is fighting Ukraine more than it is fighting Turkey, and it's for Moscow.
Guess if Moscow takes local Christians from "wrong" churches hostage you will start simping for letting Putin do whatever he wants because if not he will let the state church kill Christians then.
You sir are an idiot and a doormat who wants to surrender to terrorists.
Why? If he's their agent, it's up to them to say if they are happy with their agent's work or if he went rogue and they want to remove him.
Do i? That's news to me. Christians in Iran were better off under Pahlavi anyway, yet you are being a useful idiot for the islamic revolution under threat they they will let the jihadi dogs off the leash if taken out. Whatever, USA should kill those too.
Sorry, i think your crystal ball is broken, and even if it's not, it's still a Moscow ally down, so i don't care.
You are acting like in that joke about Stalin.
A mógł zabić...
Not to the revolution.
Until they decide they want to execute few that is, stop being a propagandist.
They are already the worst islamists there. Iranian jihadis can't join ISIS even if they want to because they are Shia so they would be killed for heresy, but the islamic revolution is the closest equivalent in that camp and better equipped, so they don't want to.
Yet surprise, Israel is not happy with them ruling there right now.
Then stop being an idiot and letting bad and worst islam play "good cop and bad cop" with their hostages against you so that you start defending bad islam against all the infidels like a jannissary because there could be a bit worse islam out there.
Then figure our something smarter to say, not my problem.
SoliFortissimi
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You know, it's at times like these that I think that if Israel had just 20 million people (<25% of Iran), the Islamic Republic would cease to exist.
They're getting there.
IndyFront
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Israel would be better off expanding its power projection as opposed to its population. Israel is a tiny country entirely dependent on the United States, they should be given the proper tech needed to project power and establish a buffer zone against Iranian proxies. Then the United States wouldn't need to come to Israel's defense and they could hold their own. The U.S. deliberately keeps Israel weak and ineffectual so they must rely on the U.S. for patronage in servitude of the U.S. empire, effectively functioning as a static and unsinkable aircraft carrier in the Middle East.
SoliFortissimi
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....Israel is a nuclear power with enough missiles in their arsenal to literally kill every single nation that opposes them. They don't need the US to survive, they need the US to not get abandoned by the international community.
That's what you people don't understand. Israel isn't trapped with the Arabs, the Arabs are trapped with Israel. And the reason Washington is so desperate to support them is so that they don't decide to go nuts and turn the ME into Fallout.
That's what you people don't understand. Israel isn't trapped with the Arabs, the Arabs are trapped with Israel. And the reason Washington is so desperate to support them is so that they don't decide to go nuts and turn the ME into Fallout.
IndyFront
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Russia has the most nukes on Earth yet can't sustain their logistics beyond their immediate borders. Russia having enough nukes to kill the world doesn't mean Russia is some unstoppable great power. This idea that Israel controls the U.S. or is more powerful than the U.S. pound for pound is literally Neo-Nazi talking points. Iran and the U.S. are the regional powers, not Israel.
SoliFortissimi
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And now you're going for strawmen. What I'm trying to point out is that outside observers vastly overstate how dependent Israel is on the US for the military side of things. Mostly in an attempt to make Israel look like a puppet state and try to evade the fact that it has crushed all of its neighbors multiple times since 1948, even when they combined forces or got aid from the USSR while Israel was getting sanctioned by the West.
It's precisely what Umberto Eco warned about. The Arabs and Leftists can't make objective assessments of Israeli power because of their ideological prejudices.
IndyFront
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What do you mean "strawman"? I was just stating a fact. The idea that Israel is some unstoppable military juggernaut is a Neo-Nazi talking point to make them seem like a big bad scary boogeyman. If the three most powerful Arab countries - Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Iraq - ever teamed up against Israel NOW, Israel would be crushed without U.S. support. Egypt has a modernized army that is heavily integrated with the U.S. military industrial complex, as is Saudi Arabia. Iraq is not as impressive, but still rather large and imposing. Beyond defensive capabilities Israel does not have much it can use offensively against Iran, and Iran is the more typically underestimated country, not Israel.
And this isn't even factoring in de-facto Muslim nuclear powers such as Pakistan and Turkey, each with their own highly sophisticated military-industrial complex.
SoliFortissimi
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......spoken like someone who really doesn't know how bad their militaries are.
To get an idea, read up Arabs At War by Pollock. It's impossible to exaggerate just how horribly incompetent they are.
IndyFront
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Again, I stress NOW, as in THE PRESENT DAY. And it likely wouldn't even be these Arab states since they're actually somewhat aligned with Israel against Iran, which is the real threat here do you realize?