Middle East Running Iranian threat news and discussion thread
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IndyFront
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ISIS was a significant regional threat that was backed by Turkey, do you seriously not know this? Again, you are ignoring the part where I said most of these Arab states are aligned with Israel against Iran, which is the real direct threat to Israel. Are you being deliberately obtuse just in a doomed attempt to trigger me? Because it's not going to work lmaooo
Israel would absolutely need nukes to level the playing field, you are just being an ignorant retard at this point.
SoliFortissimi
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Oh wait, looks like you misunderstood. I meant that the Arabs underperformed against ISIS. Iraq nearly fell to a few thousand idiots with rifles and toyotas.
Once again, go read Arabs At War.
King Arts
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lol what dude Arab and Muslim nations are weak. Have you not been paying attention to how Israel is mopping the floor with them?
Eh, Iraq is far away, kinda useless and in a cold civil war. Saudi Arabia, still kinda useless and far away, see their recent adventure in Yemen. Egypt, you may have a point, or maybe not, they didn't fight any real war recently, but it's still an Arab army, so manage your expectations. Iran would be a real threat if its armies were on Israel's border, and it's working on that, but they aren't, and Israel is working against that.
Israel does not have the economic capacity to get and maintain the big boy power projection toys like carriers. They are already doing what they can with airborne refueling and cruise missiles. It has nothing to do with US politics, just plain economic reality of a ~10 million country. Though doubling that would not make all that much of a difference in that regard. Quadrupling, perhaps.
SoliFortissimi
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As I said, what Israel needs is a way to sustainable triple their population. Failing that, they will never truly be at peace unless the ME is unified by a power that is neither Islamist nor nationalistic.
IndyFront
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Looks like Putin and Netanyahu at least are aligning against Iran
thedefensepost.com
www.middleeasteye.net
www.al-monitor.com
And this Russian-Israeli alignment isn't exactly new either.
www.ynetnews.com
www.algemeiner.com
en.wikipedia.org
Can't really blame them, I've been vocal about my criticisms of both Putin and Netanyahu but if Iran truly is that big of a threat and its aligning with the Azeris and Pakistanis against Russia, India and Israel, I can't really blame them for having some sort of failsafe alliance in case things go awry with Iran. Out of the primary target nations of the international community: Russia, Israel, North Korea and Iran - Iran is the odd one out, as it is the only country that is an outright totalitarian Muslim supremacist theocracy. This puts Iran in the same category as the Islamist terrorists that have targeted the U.S. since 9/11, meaning they should be the US primary diplomatic and military target and we should expand relations with Pakistan and Azerbaijan to isolate Iran further.
Netanyahu’s Diplomacy With Putin Ensured IDF’s Successful Attack on Iran
Netanyahu's diplomacy with Putin has effectively prevented Russia from arming Iran with advanced defense systems, ensuring Israel's strategic advantage.
thedefensepost.com
Inside the Iran-Russia tensions over an Azerbaijan transport corridor
Iranian sources say Tehran is staunchly opposed to Baku's Russian-backed Zangezur corridor, which would realign its northern borders
www.middleeasteye.net
Iran and Azerbaijan hold joint military drills in sign of easing tensions
Iran and Azerbaijan are at odds over the planned Zangezur Corridor through Armenia, as well as Baku’s relations with Israel.
Netanyahu and Putin to get direct and secure hotline
Move comes as Russia seeks new allies in wake of crisis with West over annexation of Crimea.
www.ynetnews.com
Israel Backs Off Ukraine Drone Deal, Fearing Russian Ire: Report (VIDEO) - Algemeiner.com
Israel Backs Off Ukraine UAV Deal, Fearing Russian Ire
www.algemeiner.com
Israel–Russia relations - Wikipedia
IndyFront
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Putin is evil, not stupid. He isn't going to jeopardize the drone sieve he gets from Tehran, but he also gets drones from Israel, one of them even shot down by Ukraine. So both Israeli and Iranian drones have been used by Moscow against Ukraine. Putin is in a more precarious position than he was c. 2015 so he's not going to take any overt actions against Israel for Iran, most likely stay out of it, while keeping Iran at an arm's length and Israel protected from Iran.
IndyFront
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Russia's primary military ally is North Korea, and to a lesser extent China, not Iran (or Israel for that matter). Iran is on Iran's side and the side of its proxies in Hezbollah, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the Houthis and Shiite militias in Iraq and Syria. Iran is much more preoccupied with going after Israel and the zionists than it is about Russia's military misadventures in Europe.
Of course.And remember,that Natanjahu is supporting his propaganda about soviet "liberation" in 1945.
And why Izrael help genocide Armenia again? becouse they were genocide victims before them.And in world narration there could be only one victim of genocide - jews.
Why Iran is saving armenians? becouse tat is what they tried to do for last 700 years,when turks come and started their shit.
Again, Iran will always be an ally of Putin.
Even when Putin ally with Izrael or Turkey? REALLY?
IndyFront
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Israel literally opposed Ukraine in favor of Russia, and refused to sanction Russia when they invaded Ukraine. Why on earth would Russia sanction Israel?
U.S. officials angry: Israel doesn’t back stance on Russia
Amid tension, Netanyahu backs out of event he was invited to personally by Putin.
www.haaretz.com
Israeli, Saudi, and Emirati Officials Privately Pushed for Trump to Strike a “Grand Bargain” with Putin
Officials from the three countries have repeatedly encouraged their American counterparts to consider ending the Ukraine-related sanctions in return for Putin’s help in removing Iranian forces from Syria.
Israel and Russia coordinate arms sale preventing deals with Iran
Ariel Bulshtein, adviser to the prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, has announced that Israel has refused to sell weapons to Georgia, at Russia's request. He also stated a month...
www.middleeastmonitor.com
Netanyahu orders Israeli mission to skip UN vote on Syrian war crimes
Last week, the UN General Assembly voted on a resolution calling to form a body that would gather evidence on war crimes and crimes against humanity being committed in Syria, but the PMO told Israel’s delegates not to arrive at the vote, apparently due to pressure from Russia, which did not want...
www.ynetnews.com
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If Iran is aligning against Russia, why is it selling long range weapons to Russia instead of Ukraine and why is Russia still allowed to be in Syria?Looks like Putin and Netanyahu at least are aligning against Iran
Netanyahu’s Diplomacy With Putin Ensured IDF’s Successful Attack on Iran
Netanyahu's diplomacy with Putin has effectively prevented Russia from arming Iran with advanced defense systems, ensuring Israel's strategic advantage.Inside the Iran-Russia tensions over an Azerbaijan transport corridor
Iranian sources say Tehran is staunchly opposed to Baku's Russian-backed Zangezur corridor, which would realign its northern bordersAnd this Russian-Israeli alignment isn't exactly new either.Iran and Azerbaijan hold joint military drills in sign of easing tensions
Iran and Azerbaijan are at odds over the planned Zangezur Corridor through Armenia, as well as Baku’s relations with Israel.
Netanyahu and Putin to get direct and secure hotline
Move comes as Russia seeks new allies in wake of crisis with West over annexation of Crimea.Israel Backs Off Ukraine Drone Deal, Fearing Russian Ire: Report (VIDEO) - Algemeiner.com
Israel Backs Off Ukraine UAV Deal, Fearing Russian IreCan't really blame them, I've been vocal about my criticisms of both Putin and Netanyahu but if Iran truly is that big of a threat and its aligning with the Azeris and Pakistanis against Russia, India and Israel, I can't really blame them for having some sort of failsafe alliance in case things go awry with Iran. Out of the primary target nations of the international community: Russia, Israel, North Korea and Iran - Iran is the odd one out, as it is the only country that is an outright totalitarian Muslim supremacist theocracy. This puts Iran in the same category as the Islamist terrorists that have targeted the U.S. since 9/11, meaning they should be the US primary diplomatic and military target and we should expand relations with Pakistan and Azerbaijan to isolate Iran further.Israel–Russia relations - Wikipedia
Checkmate Israel haters...
In the very short term, sure, but there's a reason there were so many Russo-Persian wars as the two are natural rivals in Central Asia and the Near East just as Germany and Russia are in Eastern Europe. A strong Iran is a threat to Russias underbelly.
IndyFront
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Iran and Russia’s Fragile Partnership
How America can divide two of its main adversaries.
Man if Trump can get Israel and Russia to team up against Iran he may in fact become one of my favorite foreign policy leaders of the U.S.