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[ATP]

I don't know who made you the pope.

Nobody.All old Churches agree to that.

The Turks are too busy bankrupting themselves to fight, very dangerous if you have a bank account in lira.

Another reason to start war.If Hitler do not started war in 1939,germany would bancrupt about 1944.

RL is that you don't get to rule lawyer the staff, especially with your shit English skills.

Not when you break the rules.Only reason why i do not report you is pity.You are as stupid as i were 30 years ago.

I don't care about your idiotic Iran simpery.
Again, Iran is worse according to organizations that specialize in evaluating Christian persecution.
You have no better argument than making shit up.

Saudi Arabia

What does persecution look like in Saudi Arabia? The small number of Saudi Christians has been slowly...

www.opendoors.org

Iran

What does persecution look like in Iran? In Iran, if you're part of a traditional Christian community,...

www.opendoors.org

As you can see, Iran is worse by 4 spots.

And christians still could live there,as long as they do not convert muslims.And nobody split on them,or attack their houses.

Remind me that you are too retarded to talk about economies in the future every time you talk about economies.

Turkish economic crisis (2018–current) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wasting their investments?

Because Jordan and Kuwait did exactly that before and we know what happened next.
They would fuck up their place that's already barely holding on.
Just because they are the same nationality doesn't mean their politics or leaders have to agree. Otherwise North Korea and South Korea would love each other even though everyone agrees they are all Koreans.
In Syria, one country, they had a whole bunch of Arab factions murdering each other zealously over smaller things. Sometimes they can go full medieval on each other just because their clans get into a spat.

Who's "they"?

jews in izrael who pray to soviets,like current ambassador in Poland.

Probably your dreams or bad reading comprehension.

Build monuments for soviet genociders in izrael ? REALLY ?

You are the useful idiot defending all the Moscow's strategic allies, in the name of Moscow allied Arabs and Moscow loving Christians.

Sigh.Since when Iranians are arabs? and,since they are only power which defend Armenia from genocide now,they should be supported by all christians.

If you want our side to surrender to everyone willing to hold Christian human shields, don't bother replying and go join the human shields.

You want murder christians in Iran,not me.So,when you made your revolution,go die with them when your muslim friend come after them.
I defend them ,when it is still possible - by defending Iran .

Dear deep state, get this guy to shut up with this stupid bullshit to prove you are listening.

Go on,kill me.But remember - if you invade iran and kill christians there,americans would get you - not becouse of christians there,but all american soldiers who die there for replacing one islamists with another.

P.S i would answer,as usual,after few weeks.You are really boring.If not for christians there,i would stop responding to your rambling.

 

[Marduk]

Nobody.All old Churches agree to that.

Who gives a fuck except said old churches for the sake of tooting own horns.

Another reason to start war.If Hitler do not started war in 1939,germany would bancrupt about 1944.

Germany was in top 3 industrial powers at the time so it could try escaping forward. Turkey is a middle power only.

Not when you break the rules.Only reason why i do not report you is pity.You are as stupid as i were 30 years ago.

You are as retarded as the most retarded of our politicians, i have no use for what you think is pity (or just say that because you know those reports would be just annoying the rest of the staff), you are just stupidly thinking i'm actually breaking rules, while, as i explained, there's a reason why you don't get to play forum rule judge here.

And christians still could live there,as long as they do not convert muslims.And nobody split on them,or attack their houses.

And don't try to be too comfortable, or Allah forbid, get any political influence.
LMAO.
Or are converts, i don't understand why are you making them second rate Christians.
Or just belong to wrong ethnic group, or don't want to go to a state approved church.

jews in izrael who pray to soviets,like current ambassador in Poland.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't "pray to the soviets".

Build monuments for soviet genociders in izrael ? REALLY ?

Again, do not play word games with me, if you do, i'll think you are either thinking i'm retarded enough to fall for them, hence you are insulting me, or you are retarded yourself and think they are a valid argument.

To which soviet genocider (name please) did they build the monument?

Sigh.Since when Iranians are arabs? and,since they are only power which defend Armenia from genocide now,they should be supported by all christians.

Moscow allied Persians with a bunch of Arab auxiliaries included. And why do i give a fuck about Moscow's allies in Armenia (Karabakh clans), pox upon them for all i care. If you want to simp for all of Moscow's allies in the name of "defending Christians" you may as well defect to Belarus like certain interesting people did.

You want murder christians in Iran,not me.So,when you made your revolution,go die with them when your muslim friend come after them.
I defend them ,when it is still possible - by defending Iran .

No, local jihadis want to murder Christians, and there is no negotiating with terrorists in my world, even if they have human shields. Guess if Russia grabs some human shields from Siberian exiles, you will defend Moscow then.

Go on,kill me.But remember - if you invade iran and kill christians there,americans would get you - not becouse of christians there,but all american soldiers who die there for replacing one islamists with another.

Don't repeat idiotic leftist myths, it's degrading. If you kill your enemies, they are dead, islamists are not tribbles, they are still people, kill enough and they will be gone, there will be no one to replace them.

P.S i would answer,as usual,after few weeks.You are really boring.If not for christians there,i would stop responding to your rambling.

Likewise, you are also repetitive, boo, get a better act.

 

[King Arts]

Izrael attacked Iran Embassy in Syria,right? If you attack embassy of your enemy,except attack on your own.That it is how politic work.Except Poland,jews could do whatever they like to us and we would still do nothing.

ATP what are you smoking? No we should not simp for Iran over Israel. Ideally we would be neutral and let them fight each other, but if I had to pick it looks like Iran is more unreasonable and should be smacked.

I mean listen nations can dislike each other, but civilized nations don't attack embassies in a 3rd neutral nation that is not at war.
@Marduk this is also for you. I'm assuming you dislike both Pakistan and China but you don't want to end diplomatic relations with them right? Well would you be cool with it if Pakistan launched a terror attack on China's embassy in Poland because of what China is doing to Muslim Ueighers? No just like Iran and Israel may hate each other, Norway is not involved and Iran should not attack Israeli embassies in neutral nations. Iran should leave Norway out of it.

Who gives a fuck except said old churches for the sake of tooting own horns.

Well you should care about them since how do you determine in group from out group?

Why should I care if evangelical neo protestants who worship Israel get killed? Why should I care if Muslims get killed? I mean yes it's bad when people die, if some Muslim terrorist when on a school shooting in Moscow you wouldn't be jumping for joy but you wouldn't be overly sad either, but you would be much more upset if it happened in Warsaw right? They are not part of my in group my people. Are they yours?

 

[Marduk]

ATP what are you smoking? No we should not simp for Iran over Israel. Ideally we would be neutral and let them fight each other, but if I had to pick it looks like Iran is more unreasonable and should be smacked.

I mean listen nations can dislike each other, but civilized nations don't attack embassies in a 3rd neutral nation that is not at war.
@Marduk this is also for you. I'm assuming you dislike both Pakistan and China but you don't want to end diplomatic relations with them right? Well would you be cool with it if Pakistan launched a terror attack on China's embassy in Poland because of what China is doing to Muslim Ueighers? No just like Iran and Israel may hate each other, Norway is not involved and Iran should not attack Israeli embassies in neutral nations. Iran should leave Norway out of it.

The difference is that Pakistan is not in a weird frozen/proxy war state with Poland, and neither is China, while Israel is in such a state with both Syria and Iran. Syria is most definitely not a "neutral nation" to Israel, what the fuck are you smoking, did you read any news from the region since, well, since you are alive? Sorry, this is 21st century, there is no autistic international respect for 2 states of relations between countries - either peace or war, certainly not in that region, the fun people make the most out of finding gray areas between the two and exploiting the shit out of the confusion, i would only wish on my enemies to be blind to this, unfortunately most are leading in this.
Syria and Iran are allies and are waging semi-proxy (remember those missile/airstrike exchanges with Iran, all the bombing of Syria before etc?) on Israel through Hezbollah, to which the bombed meeting was relevant.
Complaining about this is as if in 1945 Germany moved its war meetings to the Japanese embassy in Berlin, and complaining that the Allies bombed it.

Well you should care about them since how do you determine in group from out group?

Definitely not like this, this is some artificial division between some Christian nations and others, and pragmatically a retarded one at that, because it puts some allied to our enemies in in-group, and some allied to us in out-group.
Armenia was never the West's ally, it was Russia's ally, now that's falling apart a bit because Russia is reneging on allied support, but it's neutral at very best, definitely not our allies, so i don't get why is he obsessing about their safety as if they were our BFFs.

Why should I care if evangelical neo protestants who worship Israel get killed? Why should I care if Muslims get killed? I mean yes it's bad when people die, if some Muslim terrorist when on a school shooting in Moscow you wouldn't be jumping for joy but you wouldn't be overly sad either, but you would be much more upset if it happened in Warsaw right? They are not part of my in group my people. Are they yours?

For most normal people religion is not the only, or even main factor geopolitics revolve around.

 

[ATP]

ATP what are you smoking? No we should not simp for Iran over Israel. Ideally we would be neutral and let them fight each other, but if I had to pick it looks like Iran is more unreasonable and should be smacked.

I mean listen nations can dislike each other, but civilized nations don't attack embassies in a 3rd neutral nation that is not at war.
@Marduk this is also for you. I'm assuming you dislike both Pakistan and China but you don't want to end diplomatic relations with them right? Well would you be cool with it if Pakistan launched a terror attack on China's embassy in Poland because of what China is doing to Muslim Ueighers? No just like Iran and Israel may hate each other, Norway is not involved and Iran should not attack Israeli embassies in neutral nations. Iran should leave Norway out of it.

Not simping.Izrael started war,which mean,that Iran could retaliate.That is all.
But,if i must choose,i would support Iran.
They do not blame us for german crimes during WW2.
And do not spit on christians living in Iran.

Well you should care about them since how do you determine in group from out group?

Why should I care if evangelical neo protestants who worship Israel get killed? Why should I care if Muslims get killed? I mean yes it's bad when people die, if some Muslim terrorist when on a school shooting in Moscow you wouldn't be jumping for joy but you wouldn't be overly sad either, but you would be much more upset if it happened in Warsaw right? They are not part of my in group my people. Are they yours?

He do not care about christians in Iran and Armenia,but want them genocided,becouse....well,he must have his reasons.
Probably becouse Izrael say so.

 

[Marduk]

He do not care about christians in Iran and Armenia,but want them genocided,becouse....well,he must have his reasons.
Probably becouse Izrael say so.

ATP cares about Iranian theocrats and doesn't want them killed, he must have his reasons. Probably KGB told him to defend their allies.
See? I can do this shit too.

 

[Zachowon]

The difference is that Pakistan is not in a weird frozen/proxy war state with Poland, and neither is China, while Israel is in such a state with both Syria and Iran. Syria is most definitely not a "neutral nation" to Israel, what the fuck are you smoking, did you read any news from the region since, well, since you are alive? Sorry, this is 21st century, there is no autistic international respect for 2 states of relations between countries - either peace or war, certainly not in that region, the fun people make the most out of finding gray areas between the two and exploiting the shit out of the confusion, i would only wish on my enemies to be blind to this, unfortunately most are leading in this.
Syria and Iran are allies and are waging semi-proxy (remember those missile/airstrike exchanges with Iran, all the bombing of Syria before etc?) on Israel through Hezbollah, to which the bombed meeting was relevant.
Complaining about this is as if in 1945 Germany moved its war meetings to the Japanese embassy in Berlin, and complaining that the Allies bombed it.

Definitely not like this, this is some artificial division between some Christian nations and others, and pragmatically a retarded one at that, because it puts some allied to our enemies in in-group, and some allied to us in out-group.
Armenia was never the West's ally, it was Russia's ally, now that's falling apart a bit because Russia is reneging on allied support, but it's neutral at very best, definitely not our allies, so i don't get why is he obsessing about their safety as if they were our BFFs.

For most normal people religion is not the only, or even main factor geopolitics revolve around.

The Balkans are an example of religion doesn't always mean you like each other

 

[ATP]

ATP cares about Iranian theocrats and doesn't want them killed, he must have his reasons. Probably KGB told him to defend their allies.
See? I can do this shit too.

No silly,i do not care about muslims.I do not want to replace one muslims with another and kill local christians in Iran.
Just like it happened in Iraq.

If you simp for killing Hussain in Iraq,you could belive that it change sometching.

But you simp for replacing iranian muslims with another AFTER iraq war,and killing/exiling christians there.

So,you do not want to remove islamists,only christians which live in Iran now in peace.

Dunno why,even Izrael do not profit from removing christians in Iraq,so they would not profit from removing christians in Iran,too.

 

[Marduk]

No silly,i do not care about muslims.I do not want to replace one muslims with another and kill local christians in Iran.
Just like it happened in Iraq.

So you defend Iranian theocrats who are part of Russia-China-Iran alliance and waging war against us?
That's fucking ass backwards retarded.
Why do you care about Iranian Christians more than about Poland, EU and NATO?
The fuck did they do for us to warrant this?

If you simp for killing Hussain in Iraq,you could belive that it change sometching.

Don't care.

But you simp for replacing iranian muslims with another AFTER iraq war,and killing/exiling christians there.

Also don't care.

So,you do not want to remove islamists,only christians which live in Iran now in peace.

You know jack shit about what i want.

Dunno why,even Izrael do not profit from removing christians in Iraq,so they would not profit from removing christians in Iran,too.

Again, don't care about middle eastern tin pot dictatorships and the human shields they keep in misery so idiots go defending them because they are the only thing balancing (yet also keeping inflamed) local identity politics.
Nie ze mną te numery Bruner.

 

[King Arts]

The difference is that Pakistan is not in a weird frozen/proxy war state with Poland, and neither is China, while Israel is in such a state with both Syria and Iran. Syria is most definitely not a "neutral nation" to Israel, what the fuck are you smoking, did you read any news from the region since, well, since you are alive? Sorry, this is 21st century, there is no autistic international respect for 2 states of relations between countries - either peace or war, certainly not in that region, the fun people make the most out of finding gray areas between the two and exploiting the shit out of the confusion, i would only wish on my enemies to be blind to this, unfortunately most are leading in this.
Syria and Iran are allies and are waging semi-proxy (remember those missile/airstrike exchanges with Iran, all the bombing of Syria before etc?) on Israel through Hezbollah, to which the bombed meeting was relevant.
Complaining about this is as if in 1945 Germany moved its war meetings to the Japanese embassy in Berlin, and complaining that the Allies bombed it.

I feel like slapping myself after reading the most dumbest thing here.

Do you get a kick out of reading my posts in the dumbest manner possible? Interpreting things I never said because my god I've never said something so dumb.

I never said Syria and Iran were neutral to Israel(also why'd you bring up Syria?) I said two combatants should not start new theaters of war in neutral nations. NORWAY IS A NEUTRAL NATION! Sure maybe Norway has some friendly ties to Israel, but they aren't official allies, and Norway is not in a cold war or any hostiles with Iran. So Iran should not be attacking Israeli embassies in Norway. Israeli embassies in nations that are warzones like Syria sure, but not random nations.

Also your last what if was really dumb. Japan was an ally of Germany and enemy of the allies. A better what if would be the allies invading a neutral nation like the Swiss or Argentina or whatever to attack the German embassy. Which if they did that would make them the bad guys.

Also the bold part is petty funny you say you want your enemies Iran here to be like that. Yet that's what I'm doing I'm attacking Iran for not being like this. You are defending them here. I was saying Iran was wrong to attack a Israel embassy in Norway.

Definitely not like this, this is some artificial division between some Christian nations and others, and pragmatically a retarded one at that, because it puts some allied to our enemies in in-group, and some allied to us in out-group.
Armenia was never the West's ally, it was Russia's ally, now that's falling apart a bit because Russia is reneging on allied support, but it's neutral at very best, definitely not our allies, so i don't get why is he obsessing about their safety as if they were our BFFs.

You might as well be a liberal then because all division is "artificial" also being "allied" politically because of geostrategic concerns does not mean they are part of the in group. Tell me do you think actual communists in the west are part of your in group more than Muslim migrants?

If you say yes you are delusional, both are out groups the race of one does not matter when they are hostile.

So again why should I care about evangelicals getting oppressed more than LGBT's getting oppressed in Iran?

For most normal people religion is not the only, or even main factor geopolitics revolve around.

Of course it's not the ONLY thing. But to not look to it at all is delusional. Religion and culture and belief, is 1000 times more important than race or being the same skin color.

Not simping.Izrael started war,which mean,that Iran could retaliate.That is all.
But,if i must choose,i would support Iran.
They do not blame us for german crimes during WW2.
And do not spit on christians living in Iran.

Sure Iran can fight Israel all it wants, but not inside Poland's borders. Do you want Poland to become a battlefield between Israel, and Iran? Wouldn't you prefer they take their desert squabble elsewhere?

 

[ATP]

I feel like slapping myself after reading the most dumbest thing here.

Do you get a kick out of reading my posts in the dumbest manner possible? Interpreting things I never said because my god I've never said something so dumb.

I never said Syria and Iran were neutral to Israel(also why'd you bring up Syria?) I said two combatants should not start new theaters of war in neutral nations. NORWAY IS A NEUTRAL NATION! Sure maybe Norway has some friendly ties to Israel, but they aren't official allies, and Norway is not in a cold war or any hostiles with Iran. So Iran should not be attacking Israeli embassies in Norway. Israeli embassies in nations that are warzones like Syria sure, but not random nations.

Also your last what if was really dumb. Japan was an ally of Germany and enemy of the allies. A better what if would be the allies invading a neutral nation like the Swiss or Argentina or whatever to attack the German embassy. Which if they did that would make them the bad guys.

Also the bold part is petty funny you say you want your enemies Iran here to be like that. Yet that's what I'm doing I'm attacking Iran for not being like this. You are defending them here. I was saying Iran was wrong to attack a Israel embassy in Norway.

Just like Izrael was wrong attacking Iran embassy in Syria.

You might as well be a liberal then because all division is "artificial" also being "allied" politically because of geostrategic concerns does not mean they are part of the in group. Tell me do you think actual communists in the west are part of your in group more than Muslim migrants?

If you say yes you are delusional, both are out groups the race of one does not matter when they are hostile.

So again why should I care about evangelicals getting oppressed more than LGBT's getting oppressed in Iran?

agree.

Of course it's not the ONLY thing. But to not look to it at all is delusional. Religion and culture and belief, is 1000 times more important than race or being the same skin color.

Of course.I am connected to blacks in France who are real catholics,but not to white french leftists.They are alien to me.

Sure Iran can fight Israel all it wants, but not inside Poland's borders. Do you want Poland to become a battlefield between Israel, and Iran? Wouldn't you prefer they take their desert squabble elsewhere?

Agree.But - Izrael started it.Althought...if both Iran and Izrael embassies in warsaw were blown up,and there would be no normal poles among victims,i would not care.

 

[Marduk]

I feel like slapping myself after reading the most dumbest thing here.

Do you get a kick out of reading my posts in the dumbest manner possible? Interpreting things I never said because my god I've never said something so dumb.

I never said Syria and Iran were neutral to Israel(also why'd you bring up Syria?) I said two combatants should not start new theaters of war in neutral nations. NORWAY IS A NEUTRAL NATION!

Because the Israel-Syria-Iran situation is the one we were fucking talking about. Not Israel-Iran-Norway one.

Sure maybe Norway has some friendly ties to Israel, but they aren't official allies, and Norway is not in a cold war or any hostiles with Iran. So Iran should not be attacking Israeli embassies in Norway. Israeli embassies in nations that are warzones like Syria sure, but not random nations.

That clears it up.

Also your last what if was really dumb. Japan was an ally of Germany and enemy of the allies. A better what if would be the allies invading a neutral nation like the Swiss or Argentina or whatever to attack the German embassy. Which if they did that would make them the bad guys.

Well it would ruin their relations with the neutral nation in question. Though it its such a case as its pretend neutrality and the embassy is actually being used for some military purpose it may be worth it.

Also the bold part is petty funny you say you want your enemies Iran here to be like that. Yet that's what I'm doing I'm attacking Iran for not being like this. You are defending them here. I was saying Iran was wrong to attack a Israel embassy in Norway.

Which is an act of aggression against both Israel and Norway. Latter of which is a part of NATO. Again cucked western "caution" in responding to such shit is encouraging boldness in Iran's shenanigans.

You might as well be a liberal then because all division is "artificial" also being "allied" politically because of geostrategic concerns does not mean they are part of the in group. Tell me do you think actual communists in the west are part of your in group more than Muslim migrants?

If you say yes you are delusional, both are out groups the race of one does not matter when they are hostile.

Except communists are not our "geostrategic allies", they are enemy within and by self-declared belief not wanting to be my in-group even if i wanted them.

So again why should I care about evangelicals getting oppressed more than LGBT's getting oppressed in Iran?

The fuck did evangelicals do to you? Iran is recognized adversary of the US, and they tend to be pro-US, so you should support allied proxies in enemy countries.

Of course it's not the ONLY thing. But to not look to it at all is delusional. Religion and culture and belief, is 1000 times more important than race or being the same skin color.

Fuck off with the skin color strawman, take this shit to some shitlib who cares.
All the leftist shitsters wave their hands around like you here when people mean cultural and national loyalties, which for obvious reasons are highly corrrelated with race and skin color, especially when it comes to distant nations.
I for one don't care if a vatnik is pale, brown, Chechen Muslim, Moscow Orthodox or Moscow atheist, he's still a vatnik and that's the problem.

Sure Iran can fight Israel all it wants, but not inside Poland's borders. Do you want Poland to become a battlefield between Israel, and Iran? Wouldn't you prefer they take their desert squabble elsewhere?

Israel is currently an ally of our ally, so they would be expected to consult this with us, and we would also have some limited obligation to help deal with the issue.
Iran is currently an ally of our old enemy, so pox upon them.
We're not Swiss, we don't have a tradition of strict political neutrality, and anyone who thinks we should try it is a retard or a traitor, as it would be quite unpractical for our geopolitical situation if we were to think about it.

 

[IndyFront]

We're not Swiss, we don't have a tradition of strict political neutrality, and anyone who thinks we should try it is a retard or a traitor, as it would be quite unpractical for our geopolitical situation if we were to think about it.

Not entirely true. The US was officially neutral until attacked in WWII, and neutral until Wilson declared intervention in WWI
There are other examples as well

Neutrality Acts of the 1930s - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Neutrality Act of 1794 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Proclamation of Neutrality - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Zachowon]

Not entirely true. The US was officially neutral until attacked in WWII, and neutral until Wilson declared intervention in WWI
There are other examples as well

Neutrality Acts of the 1930s - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Neutrality Act of 1794 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Proclamation of Neutrality - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Officially.
We already were supplying our allies.
We wernt really neutral

 

[IndyFront]

Officially.
We already were supplying our allies.
We wernt really neutral

I still disagree with the notion that these people were "retards" and "traitors", I'm sure some of them are, but even though I personally disagree with neutrality for the sake of neutrality I'm not going to trash those I disagree with

 

[Zachowon]

I still disagree with the notion that these people were "retards" and "traitors", I'm sure some of them are, but even though I personally disagree with neutrality for the sake of neutrality I'm not going to trash those I disagree with

One can not be neutral in the world we live in today

 

[King Arts]

One can not be neutral in the world we live in today

The Swiss disprove that claim.

 

[IndyFront]

The Swiss disprove that claim.

And neutrality doesn't automatically mean impartiality. The Swiss authorities have taken action against Russian elites for their involvement in Ukraine:

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

 

[Zachowon]

The Swiss disprove that claim.

As indy showed.

And neutrality doesn't automatically mean impartiality. The Swiss authorities have taken action against Russian elites for their involvement in Ukraine:

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

www.bloomberg.com

No country is truly neutral.

 

[IndyFront]

As indy showed.

No country is truly neutral.

Indeed. Neutrality is more of a political statement than a geopolitical or military one