Musk actually buys Twitter.

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This is one of those times where you kinda have the right idea, but also, no, the US is almost purely Anglo in origin. Also, it wasn't Spanish and Portuguese, but Dutch and German that were the other major European influences on early America. We eventually took over a bunch of former Spanish Empire territory, but by that point much of the American culture and history was set and it was well after the US Revolution. And we purchased Alaska from the Russian Empire, but the Portuguese didn't ever hold any north American territory, it was outside their remit from the Pope.

Spain, as far as the US is concerned, only matters in that they triggered the Columbian Exchange. All the early US colonies were settled by English, Scottish, and Irish immigrants from those islands, as well as some German colonists in Pennsylvania. The Dutch influence was very light overall, as while they settled New Netherlands, that colony was taken from them by the English becoming New York... and then run for many years that way, quite divorced from Dutch influence. France didn't really get involved save as an adversary, oh, and their trade with the natives triggering the Beaver War around the Great Lakes which caused a massive migration south by the losers who displaced other tribes thus triggering a fuckton of Indian Wars in the 17th century that both did and did not involve the British colonies.

But the US legal and cultural institutions from Colonial times are very purely British. We have Sheriffs and Counties for goodness sake as our most local political organizations for most States.
Ben Franklin and Lafayette would like to argue about French relevance to the US outside of as an adversary.

As would most of the west side of the Mississippi.
 

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When I was in grade school, one of my teachers singled me out and berated me for working too far ahead of the rest of the class in math. Thanks to her, I ended up falling to the back of the pack throughout the rest of my time in the public school system, and never realized my potential with math until I started going to collage.
I never did any homework in school. Hardly ever. but would get As on tests and then get accused of cheating my my teachers. So I started intentionally missing enough questions to get a B or C.

They couldn't believe I was smart enough to pass tests based on what they showed in class.
 

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the Portuguese didn't ever hold any north American territory, it was outside their remit from the Pope.
Aktshualy ... the Portuguese and Castilians agreed on "who runs drugs where" between themselves to avoid further turf wars and told the Pope to sign the paper.
 

Blasterbot

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I never did any homework in school. Hardly ever. but would get As on tests and then get accused of cheating my my teachers. So I started intentionally missing enough questions to get a B or C.

They couldn't believe I was smart enough to pass tests based on what they showed in class.
Worst I ever did in math was 8th grade. it was a curmudgeonly old man a year away from retirement. he made the notes we took in class like a 3rd of the grade. my shit handwriting and never having bothered with them before resulted in me not doing well there. the guy demanded we copy what he put on the overhead projector just so. it did mean that most of the other kids were able to get an easy C in the class even if they struggled with homework and the tests. guy was an asshole though. highschool the teachers said if I got an A on the test I didn't have to do homework. I was A in that class because tests are easy.
 

strunkenwhite

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Can you give me a source or a cite on the 80% in 5 cities? That's roughly in line with what I've seen, and I'd like to use those kinds of numbers in debates in the future.
A brief search suggests to me that the 80% number for murder is quite impossible unless you dishonestly keep the metro population stat while dumping the murder stat. However, I'd love to have it demonstrated to me that I'm wrong about that.

 

Blasterbot

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A brief search suggests to me that the 80% number for murder is quite impossible unless you dishonestly keep the metro population stat while dumping the murder stat. However, I'd love to have it demonstrated to me that I'm wrong about that.

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even if you go through the mental gymnastics they want you to go through for the 2010-2015 stats presented Urban areas are always worse than their suburban or rural areas. most of the time when in this discussion people are talking about murder even if they just say violence. and this in no way is accounting for the spike in how awful city living has gotten since the summer of love.
 

strunkenwhite

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even if you go through the mental gymnastics they want you to go through for the 2010-2015 stats presented Urban areas are always worse than their suburban or rural areas. most of the time when in this discussion people are talking about murder even if they just say violence. and this in no way is accounting for the spike in how awful city living has gotten since the summer of love.
Worse, yes. More than four times worse per capita, which was the allegation, no. Given the level of discrepancy I didn't bother to look too hard for newer data though I'd love to have it provided.

The second link is about as old (2014 data) but does break it down so you can see specific numbers for homicide. Based on the provided numbers, the only metric that plausibly has any chance of holding up to the 80/20 claim is not murder, but robbery.
 

nemo1986

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No sources yes, but I heard this was a higher up in the WEF.

Which if true, emwell Elon had a good run with twitter, but it'll be back to the same before too long.
Well he still owns it. The CEO may be running it but he can basically tell her no if what she chooses is wrong.
 

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Bigking321

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Hmm...

Not sure why Musk would do that. Hasn't he been pretty vocal about not liking that crowd?

I would have figured he would have picked some free speech person or something.

Ah well. Twitter has been more fun since he bought it and a bunch of lies and corruption was brought to light.

Even if Twitter goes back to how bad it was at least we had that.
 

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