Meme Thread for Both Posting and Discussing Memes

[Zachowon]

In fairness to Fallout, the desert aesthetic wasn't originally due to the fallout and radiation, but rather because the original game was set in the Southwest US which is... well...

Here's RL New Reno, for instance:

Or here's the real world town near Junktown from Fallout 1, Ridgecrest CA:

Or the real life location near the Hub, Lancaster CA:

Now, granted, Fallout 2 continued that aesthetic even in areas where it arguably shouldn't have, for instance Yreka California, which is near to where Klamath is in FO2 looks like this IRL:

However, both Fallout 2 and Fallout 3 continued the desert aesthetic in regions they shouldn't have. I'll grant more leeway to Fallout 2, as it is an older game and they might have been attempting to save development time and disk space by limiting them number of environmental backgrounds they had to design, but there's no excuse for Fallout 3... Why? Well, here's Rockville Maryland, Bethesda's HQ IRL and a suburb of Washington DC:

Or, to be more explicit, Fairfax Virginia has ruins in Fallout 3... and is also a city in real life. The real life city looks like this:

Basically, they established a desert aesthetic in the first game, and stuck to it even though they moved into areas where it made no sense, neither northern California (in FO2) or the DC Metro Area (FO3) are even remotely desert-like (heck, the DC Metro area is only a few inches per annual rainfall of being a Temperate Rainforest).

I mean, isn't it that the whole area got hit pretty hard and that the reason for the baroness is because of the amount of radiation

 

[S'task]

I mean, isn't it that the whole area got hit pretty hard and that the reason for the baroness is because of the amount of radiation

Radiation doesn't actually work that way. Given the time between the Great War and when Fallout 3 is set, the vast majority of the land would have been regreened. This is especially true for areas with high amounts of rain. You also have to realize that unless you literally grid-square carpet nuked the DC area, you'd not actually be able to completely reduce the region to destruction, the landscape of the region is VERY hilly and those hills would end up blocking many of the blast waves from having full impact, thus ensuring you'd have plenty of pockets of greenery that survived to regreen the region, even with a nuclear winter.

Something I actually have to give Fallout 76 is that in general it looks more like what the region should appear to be like after a nuclear war plus regreening. Basically, Fallout 76 is what Fallout 3 SHOULD look like, given they're set quite close together.

 

[S'task]

So basically it’s almost certainly Bethesda’s fault. To the shock of no one who’s played attention

Did you miss what I said? No. Black Isle set the precedent with how they handled Fallout 2 and not regreening much of Northern California which should have been. If anything Bethesda has been moving towards a more proper aesthetic with both FO4 and FO76 moving towards slightly regreening and regrowing compared to desert wasteland.

 

[StormEagle]

Did you miss what I said? No. Black Isle set the precedent with how they handled Fallout 2 and not regreening much of Northern California which should have been. If anything Bethesda has been moving towards a more proper aesthetic with both FO4 and FO76 moving towards slightly regreening and regrowing compared to desert wasteland.

It’s just to bad that FO4 and FO76 suck ass, because I actually really like the landscape design in both.

FO4 is all right as a time killer, but they ripped out so much of the SPECIAL system that it’s barely regocnizable and the actual dialogue options have been simplified down so much that it makes Mass Effect or any Dragon Age after Origins, not exactly games known for actually deep role playing, look complex.

Do you want to be an asshole, a snarky asshole, Yes-Man transplanted into a human body, or ask a question?

I honestly think rpg’s have suffered quite a bit since the introduction of voiced main characters and the Mass Effect dialogue wheel.

…The less said about FO76, the better. I’ll never understand how Bethesda thought their janky, buggy system would translate to an MMO.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Radiation doesn't actually work that way.

Real Life radiation doesn't. Fallout radiation is whole different ball park.

 

[Typhonis]

Fallout would be better if they set it 20 years after the bombs fell. That way you can excuse finding skeletons in a building people are using.

200 years? That is the post post apocalypse. Well into the rebuilding and such.

 

[Bacle]

Fallout would be better if they set it 20 years after the bombs fell. That way you can excuse finding skeletons in a building people are using.

200 years? That is the post post apocalypse. Well into the rebuilding and such.

This forgets the Enclave wanted the US to stay in ruins, because the survivors were 'unclean/tainted' by radiation, and also the FEV was added in with the nukes as an issue.

FEV and supermutants are the bigger reasons why rebuilding barely happened outside sparse pockets like New Vegas and the NCR.

The East Coast is basically a free for all between the BoS, Enclave, and the many local factions spread up and down the coast.

Supposedly Flagstaff was actually rebuilt/fairly intact, and was Caesar's capital.

 

[mrttao]

This forgets the Enclave wanted the US to stay in ruins, because the survivors were 'unclean/tainted' by radiation, and also the FEV was added in with the nukes as an issue.

FEV and supermutants are the bigger reasons why rebuilding barely happened outside sparse pockets like New Vegas and the NCR.

The East Coast is basically a free for all between the BoS, Enclave, and the many local factions spread up and down the coast.

Supposedly Flagstaff was actually rebuilt/fairly intact, and was Caesar's capital.

That deals with human rebuilding, but he said "find skeletons"
after 200 years the animals would have eaten the skeletons already

 

[Typhonis]

You also have places that are occupied where you can still find skeletons. Case in point the Hotel in Primm.

 

[Scottty]

 

[Scottty]

This is why a lot of us no longer see the West as the good guys...

 

[Bigking321]

Oh for sure. The elites that have taken over are pure evil.

 

[DarthOne]

Did you miss what I said? No. Black Isle set the precedent with how they handled Fallout 2 and not regreening much of Northern California which should have been. If anything Bethesda has been moving towards a more proper aesthetic with both FO4 and FO76 moving towards slightly regreening and regrowing compared to desert wasteland.

I did not; however, I agree with the idea that it was likely a result of some sort of limitations during the game’s development. Either that or one could hand wave it away as a result of desertification from the war messing up the weather for generations. Or something

 

[Marduk]

This is why a lot of us no longer see the West as the good guys...

No, this is why a lot of us see western governments as retarded.
The virtue signalling against cluster weapons is stupid and anyone on the military side of the topic was saying that since it came up.
The "arms control activists" and politicians thought that if they "give an example" countries like Russia, China and Iran would follow in order to cut on the UXO problem.
1.5 years after the Ukraine war began, they are finally admitting that the world doesn't operate according to their wishful thinking and dumb theories.
Gee, could have told you that much earlier.

 

[Zachowon]

The military feigns care.

 

[Rocinante]

No, this is why a lot of us see western governments as retarded.
The virtue signalling against cluster weapons is stupid and anyone on the military side of the topic was saying that since it came up.
The "arms control activists" and politicians thought that if they "give an example" countries like Russia, China and Iran would follow in order to cut on the UXO problem.
1.5 years after the Ukraine war began, they are finally admitting that the world doesn't operate according to their wishful thinking and dumb theories.
Gee, could have told you that much earlier.

Damn, its already been 1.5 years into this war where Ukraine is supposedly kicking ass and demolishing the Russians who are still occupying Ukraine territory

 

[Marduk]

Damn, its already been 1.5 years into this war where Ukraine is supposedly kicking ass and demolishing the Russians who are still occupying Ukraine territory

It's occupying less than it was early in the war.

 

[Zachowon]

Damn, its already been 1.5 years into this war where Ukraine is supposedly kicking ass and demolishing the Russians who are still occupying Ukraine territory

It was supposed to be a 3 day operation for the Russians.
The Ukrainians have gained more land back then the Russians have captured land.
They still sre as well.
Just slowly

 

[Rocinante]

I think about a year ago I told you guys Ukraine wasn't winning any time soon, and this would still be going on in a year.

I'm going to make that same prediction again. One year from now, this will still be going on, and you guys will still be telling me about how Ukraine is kicking so much ass, and is totally winning, and isn't flooding the region with refugees while thousands of people die.

All the while the US talked them out of peace talks, so we could benefit off their deaths to take a stab at Russia.

Ultimately, if nukes don't fly, this is going to end in peace talks anyways, where Ukraine will get worse terms than if they had just had the peace talks in the first place, but also with their country demolished and tens or hundreds of thousands of dead humans.

 

[Marduk]

I think about a year ago I told you guys Ukraine wasn't winning any time soon, and this would still be going on in a year.

I think they are fine with winning less than soon.

I'm going to make that same prediction again. One year from now, this will still be going on, and you guys will still be telling me about how Ukraine is kicking so much ass, and is totally winning, and isn't flooding the region with refugees while thousands of people die.

All the while the US talked them out of peace talks, so we could benefit off their deaths to take a stab at Russia.

And here you go, shifting the agency to le bad America. If Ukrainians didn't want to fight anymore, Biden couldn't make them.

Ultimately, if nukes don't fly, this is going to end in peace talks anyways, where Ukraine will get worse terms than if they had just had the peace talks in the first place, but also with their country demolished and tens or hundreds of thousands of dead humans.

No, the "early" peace talks were terminated because the terms Russia offered were so shit.