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Thrle 2020's are gonna be the new 1930's

In what respects, do you think?

Because that’s quite a list of calamities to check off, ranging from economic depression (which we’re already headed for), to numerous civil wars (mostly confined to the Third World for now), to a demagogue of the very worst kind seizing power and instigating another world-shattering conflict (has yet to happen, and I don’t think Putin or Xi are Russian or CCP Hitler).

Then again, the latter came at the very end (September ’39, before going really global in ’41). So, in theory, I guess one horrible irony for many 1930s kids who lived through one sordid decade and are still with us now is that their twilight years will be spent living through another sordid decade not even a century later. But even ignoring that, I’m quite sure the New ’30s (and New ’40s, for that matter) will be just as eventful as the last, as — while history may not repeat or be easy to “copy-paste” onto a new period with its own unique backdrop and trappings — it can and does rhyme, both for better and for worse.
 
Thrle 2020's are gonna be the new 1930's

In what respects, do you think?

Because that’s quite a list of calamities to check off, ranging from economic depression (which we’re already headed for), to numerous civil wars (mostly confined to the Third World for now), to a demagogue of the very worst kind seizing power and instigating another world-shattering conflict (has yet to happen, and I don’t think Putin or Xi are Russian or CCP Hitler).

Then again, the latter came at the very end (September ’39, before going really global in ’41). So, in theory, I guess one horrible irony for many 1930s kids who lived through one sordid decade and are still with us now is that their twilight years will be spent living through another sordid decade not even a century later. But even ignoring that, I’m quite sure the New ’30s (and New ’40s, for that matter) will be just as eventful as the last, as — while history may not repeat or be easy to “copy-paste” onto a new period with its own unique backdrop and trappings — it can and does rhyme, both for better and for worse.

Situation just isn't that bad yet. We're in for an economic crash, mostly because the previous economic crash was "resolved" by pumping insane amounts of made-up money into the bubble. That prevented the complete break-down of the system, but ensured that the crash when it does break down will only be that much worse.

However... I don't think the coming crunch is going to be the big one, either. I think they'll do everything to "solve" it in the same way. Which means another delay, and another round of additional pressure building up.

When enough people are truly driven to the breaking point; when letting things go on as they are is literally a worse option than outright risking your life in armed battle against goverment soldiers; and when that is true for a meaningful percentage of the population-- that's when things really combust.

I see is moving towards that point with a horrifying steadiness, but I don't see us being there yet (nor getting there in a mere few years).


So don't be too hurried about it all. It'll all unfold in due time. In the meantime: enjoy the show!

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Situation just isn't that bad yet. We're in for an economic crash, mostly because the previous economic crash was "resolved" by pumping insane amounts of made-up money into the bubble. That prevented the complete break-down of the system, but ensured that the crash when it does break down will only be that much worse.

However... I don't think the coming crunch is going to be the big one, either. I think they'll do everything to "solve" it in the same way. Which means another delay, and another round of additional pressure building up.

When enough people are truly driven to the breaking point; when letting things go on as they are is literally a worse option than outright risking your life in armed battle against goverment soldiers; and when that is true for a meaningful percentage of the population-- that's when things really combust.

I see is moving towards that point with a horrifying steadiness, but I don't see us being there yet (nor getting there in a mere few years).


So don't be too hurried about it all. It'll all unfold in due time. In the meantime: enjoy the show!

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If you go by statistical models including econmic and social data, this decade should be something akin to the crisis of the third century or the ending period of the republic for rome.

Agreed that a more gradual series of escalations is more probable, yes. Honestly, the biggest reason I'm inclined to agree with you more than @Cherico about the "timing" is that, as you've pointed out, most First Worlders are too "squeamish" to pull triggers, duck and cover as a bombing raid levels their house, or hold their dying comrades as they bleed out in their laps.

Nonetheless, we should never underestimate human stupidity — especially when the current batch of world leaders has proven they have that in spades, taking the Georgia Guidestones way too seriously and whatnot. Not to mention the numerous vulnerabilities to all the systems we have in place — economic, infrastructural, and otherwise — that are vital to keeping modern society from grinding to a halt, so some incensed vigilante attacking the grid or panicked head-of-state who lacks the relative cool-headedness of Kennedy or Khrushchev firing away before 2050 isn't as implausible as you think. After all, just because certain decisions are reckless, insensible, or strategically unsound hasn't stopped people with power from trying them, anyway — as many a gambler, megalomaniac, and just plain selfish oaf throughout history who cares more about their own frenzied obsessions than the common good or creating a lasting regime can attest to.
 
Agreed that a more gradual series of escalations is more probable, yes. Honestly, the biggest reason I'm inclined to agree with you more than @Cherico about the "timing" is that, as you've pointed out, most First Worlders are too "squeamish" to pull triggers, duck and cover as a bombing raid levels their house, or hold their dying comrades as they bleed out in their laps.

Nonetheless, we should never underestimate human stupidity — especially when the current batch of world leaders has proven they have that in spades, taking the Georgia Guidestones way too seriously and whatnot. Not to mention the numerous vulnerabilities to all the systems we have in place — economic, infrastructural, and otherwise — that are vital to keeping modern society from grinding to a halt, so some incensed vigilante attacking the grid or panicked head-of-state who lacks the relative cool-headedness of Kennedy or Khrushchev firing away before 2050 isn't as implausible as you think. After all, just because certain decisions are reckless, insensible, or strategically unsound hasn't stopped people with power from trying them, anyway — as many a gambler, megalomaniac, and just plain selfish oaf throughout history who cares more about their own frenzied obsessions than the common good or creating a lasting regime can attest to.
first worlders would have been too squeamish a decade ago. the current crop is too ideologically possessed to care. if the issue is one of their pet issues? if they are particularly spiteful that day? if they believe it will help them even if it costs their country or the world? they will pull that trigger without hesitation and double tap it for good measure. Gen Xers are a generation that either got skipped over or is apathetic. millennials are fucked up to a degree that will require an entire discipline to unpack. Zoomers are barely better. if you are counting on your betters to keep you safe you are gambling pretty badly.
 
Sad but true.
You should see the pedo in the room!
I don't remember the Russians sending man pretending to be wamen to the Olympics.
Cali must be full of cunts. Jesus I remember when I visited LA and SF and they didn't LOOK (emphasis ON LOOK, I was 13 at the time) like shitholes. Most cities in Brasil probably are crime ridden shitholes and look better than Cali.
Agree too soon.
 
first worlders would have been too squeamish a decade ago. the current crop is too ideologically possessed to care. if the issue is one of their pet issues? if they are particularly spiteful that day? if they believe it will help them even if it costs their country or the world? they will pull that trigger without hesitation and double tap it for good measure. Gen Xers are a generation that either got skipped over or is apathetic. millennials are fucked up to a degree that will require an entire discipline to unpack. Zoomers are barely better. if you are counting on your betters to keep you safe you are gambling pretty badly.
You underestimate how hard it is for someone to actually make the decision to kill another human being. Some trained soldiers can't bring themselves to do it.

Not that there aren't some who are ideologically possessed enough to kill, but it's not universal, or likely even a majority, who are willing to pull the trigger themselves.
 
You underestimate how hard it is for someone to actually make the decision to kill another human being. Some trained soldiers can't bring themselves to do it.

Not that there aren't some who are ideologically possessed enough to kill, but it's not universal, or likely even a majority, who are willing to pull the trigger themselves.
they aren't gonna be making that decision. they are gonna vote for shit that is unsustainable and throw a tantrum when the gravy train ends. they will demand free shit at the expense of the taxpayer and any who disagree are a bigot. what happens after that ain't gonna be pretty no matter what. they will all be idealogues and they will all believe that if the others would just fall in line it would not have gotten this bad. Utopia is only the death of the kulaks away afterall.
 
instigating another world-shattering conflict (has yet to happen, and I don’t think Putin or Xi are Russian or CCP Hitler).
I'm more worried about the US striking first, or at least instigating a fight by trying to force military bases right up to the boundaries of its enemies.
Agreed that a more gradual series of escalations is more probable, yes. Honestly, the biggest reason I'm inclined to agree with you more than @Cherico about the "timing" is that, as you've pointed out, most First Worlders are too "squeamish" to pull triggers, duck and cover as a bombing raid levels their house, or hold their dying comrades as they bleed out in their laps.
The problem is, we're not the ones making decisions. If it was up to me, I'd have thrown all the current WW3 risks under the bus as not worth it the millisecond they came up, but there's a political divide between the people who actually run things and everyone who can't afford private new zealand bunkers.
 
I'm more worried about the US striking first, or at least instigating a fight by trying to force military bases right up to the boundaries of its enemies.

The problem is, we're not the ones making decisions. If it was up to me, I'd have thrown all the current WW3 risks under the bus as not worth it the millisecond they came up, but there's a political divide between the people who actually run things and everyone who can't afford private new zealand bunkers.

You did read my second paragraph, yes?

Because I made a point about how we should never underestimate human stupidity — and thus, the probably some wacky vigilante or panicked head-of-state sets things off early between now and 2050-ish, when the second half of this century begins. Agreed that what we want hardly matters when the real levers of power are firmly out of our reach, but it’s not like your point hasn’t been addressed (or at least, alluded to) before, either.
 

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