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Terthna

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My understanding of it is that conservatives are tired of regretful ex-Democrats saddling on up, and deciding that they should be in charge. The vast majority of said ex-Democrats still hold basically nothing in common with them. The ex-Democrats still believe in liberal dogma, they still hold to leftist values. Despite this, said ex-Democrats sure do insist that in order to get their support conservatives need to change pretty much every right wing policy to be the Democrat policy from about ten years ago. Said ex-Democrats then get increasingly shrill when they are told that their policies are totally incongruent with basic core conservative values and if adopted as they insist would fundamentally shatter the conservative base. This makes ex-Democrats come across as either saboteurs, grifters or opportunists.
What does any of that have to do with the war in Ukraine? Because both Democrats and Republicans seem to be in agreement about shitting on anyone trying to see it from Russia's point of view, and/or arguing that we shouldn't go to war with them over it; like me, for example.
 

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Rocinante

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I agree. So teach basic biology, and leave the atheist indoctrination out.
I think actually the opposite. There should be an entire class/module dedicated to creation theories.

In there they can teach evolution, and the various different religions' beliefs. And treat them all as valid as the next. It's up to the child and their families what to believe, we expose them to all the theories.

Personally I feel that evolution is by far the most likely but I really couldn't give less of a fuck if others don't believe the same. We both want to stop the authoritarian Connie take over. That's good enough for me.
 

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Not surprised. Remember the bitching from BLM when hispanic communities chases all afro americans out of their areas?

Ssssh! It's politically incorrect to point out that that's happening.

I think actually the opposite. There should be an entire class/module dedicated to creation theories.

In there they can teach evolution, and the various different religions' beliefs. And treat them all as valid as the next. It's up to the child and their families what to believe, we expose them to all the theories.

Personally I feel that evolution is by far the most likely but I really couldn't give less of a fuck if others don't believe the same. We both want to stop the authoritarian Connie take over. That's good enough for me.

In schools, a basic biology curriculum does not need to discuss origin theories at all. Kids can learn about cell biology, membranes, DNA, organelles etc. About Photosynthesis and metabolism, about Oxygen and ATP. About vertebrates and invertebrates, and so on.
All the stuff one actually needs some knowledge of anyway, if you want to get into Creation vs Evolution.
 

LordsFire

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In schools, a basic biology curriculum does not need to discuss origin theories at all. Kids can learn about cell biology, membranes, DNA, organelles etc. About Photosynthesis and metabolism, about Oxygen and ATP. About vertebrates and invertebrates, and so on.
All the stuff one actually needs some knowledge of anyway, if you want to get into Creation vs Evolution.

This is well-put. The idea that evolution (even if it was true) is somehow essential to teach in school only makes sense from one perspective; you want children indoctrinated with the ideological consequences of what evolution supports.

Namely, atheism, lack of higher purpose, lack of transcendent value to human beings, and lack of higher moral law.

If you view teaching children these things as essential, then there's a reason you're pushing for evolution to be in the classroom. If you just want them to learn biology, it has no relevance whatsoever.
 

Whitestrake Pelinal

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The problem isn't that you have a moral stance. It's that you express it the most disagreeable way possible. "I believe abortion is wrong, because it involves giving a voice to women, and women shouldn't get to make decisions" isn't going to get other pro-lifers on your side even if they agree with your premise, because your argument is so toxic.

That fact that in your case the premise is also toxic doesn't help, but I'm not sure where one problem starts and the other ends.
Trying to maintain 'good optics' in a moral conflict like this is a losing proposition. This is an issue on which men of any substance and character should be fanatical. Because the abuse and grooming of children is such an evil thing, if a man pussyfoots around the issue and tries to play nice, it makes him look like he is full of shit. It looks like slacktivism, like all those twitter profiles who "stand with Ukraine" by changing their picture for the next few months and then change it again when they move on to their next opportunity to virtue signal.

Perversion is both harmful and shameful, and should be shamed relentlessly in a civilized society.

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Battlegrinder

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Trying to maintain 'good optics' in a moral conflict like this is a losing proposition. This is an issue on which men of any substance and character should be fanatical. Because the abuse and grooming of children is such an evil thing, if a man pussyfoots around the issue and tries to play nice, it makes him look like he is full of shit.

It is entirely possible to stand against something firmly and forcefully, and do so in a way that isn't repellent to the unconvinced. The problem is you don't seem to be interested in taking a stand, you seem interested in the repellent opinions and are hiding behind the claim that it's about morals.

"Gay adoption is bad because gays are child molesting groomers" is not a moral position, it's a bigoted position that's been badly disguised.
 

Whitestrake Pelinal

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It is entirely possible to stand against something firmly and forcefully, and do so in a way that isn't repellent to the unconvinced. The problem is you don't seem to be interested in taking a stand, you seem interested in the repellent opinions and are hiding behind the claim that it's about morals.

"Gay adoption is bad because gays are child molesting groomers" is not a moral position, it's a bigoted position that's been badly disguised.
The problem is that you are engaging in sodomite apologia. It is not by accident that the Bible offers multiple examples of homosexuals raping, it is a description of human nature. Sodomite communities export rape. Homosexual males in the United States were, for many years, less than three percent of the male population -- yet over forty percent of convicted sex offenders were homos!

Putting defenseless children into their hands while they openly practice deviance is immoral. Deliberately birthing children who will be denied a healthy family so that sodomites can have their props (and sometimes, victims) is also immoral.
 

Bacle

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The problem is that you are engaging in sodomite apologia. It is not by accident that the Bible offers multiple examples of homosexuals raping, it is a description of human nature. Sodomite communities export rape. Homosexual males in the United States were, for many years, less than three percent of the male population -- yet over forty percent of convicted sex offenders were homos!

Putting defenseless children into their hands while they openly practice deviance is immoral. Deliberately birthing children who will be denied a healthy family so that sodomites can have their props (and sometimes, victims) is also immoral.
You have no room to lecture anyone on morality when you regularly spout neo-Dixiecrat and WN/WS apologia/rhetoric.
 

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