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[Abhorsen]

I know literally nothing about the man though if he sells himself to the conservative base then I'd assume he believes he is conservative.

No, he says he's a classical liberal/libertarian. It's just that the left went so far off the rails that conservatives like him, and he doesn't have problems with then.

Everything on twitter is a political statement. Announcing additions to the family is something you do with friends and family. Everyone else is a stranger who you bait for the updoots.

Eh, it's a way to announce stuff to many people quickly. Use of twitter can be political, but it doesn't have to be. I use it chiefly to follow a few professional wrestlers, who only care about politics enough to piss off the audience more (they're heels).

 

[LordsFire]

Dave Rubin is a classic definition of how the left has used identity politics to manipulate people, and why it's now failing.

The left supported his personal interest (normalization of homosexuality), so he aligned himself with them; he actually used to be part of The Young Turks. However, when reality slapped him in the face (According to him when he got into a discussion with Larry Elder on why black America is the way that it is), he actually cared enough to pay attention.

Then the raw animosity that the left treated him with for daring not to toe the party line drove him away, and he has steadily been driven further from the left as a result.

He also saw that while conservatives consider his sexual lifestyle immoral, all but a fringe will still treat him as a human being with respect and dignity, especially if he does the same and return.

 

[Cherico]

I personally do not care if people are gay, and have no problem with gay adoption.

Honestly having been in the Barrio, Ghetto and trailer parks I don't see how the gay community can possibly fuck up worse then the single mothers already have.

 

[Rocinante]

Dave Rubin is a classic definition of how the left has used identity politics to manipulate people, and why it's now failing.

The left supported his personal interest (normalization of homosexuality), so he aligned himself with them; he actually used to be part of The Young Turks. However, when reality slapped him in the face (According to him when he got into a discussion with Larry Elder on why black America is the way that it is), he actually cared enough to pay attention.

Then the raw animosity that the left treated him with for daring not to toe the party line drove him away, and he has steadily been driven further from the left as a result.

He also saw that while conservatives consider his sexual lifestyle immoral, all but a fringe will still treat him as a human being with respect and dignity, especially if he does the same and return.

yes, aside from a fringe minority, conservatives have been FAR MORE friendly and accepting of me even though I don't agree with all the conservative view points, as compared to the left who basically ousted me for disagreeing on a few things.

This is how I see Republicans/conservatives winning in the future. You don't need to roll over and stop believing conservative values..but be respectful and courteous to those who agree on some things but disagree on others.

Last couple elections I voted R down ticket. Guess what? I'm not a republican, I have some disagreements that are fundamentally opposed to Republicans/conservatives...but because you people were kind and respectful to me and have had a bunch of conversations with me over the years, I changed my mind and realized I was wrong about most of the negative thoughts I had about you (conservatives.) Additionally, you all got through to me and convinced me I was wrong on a bunch of policy stuff, too.

And look at that. Another Republican voter, and I'm not even a Republican.

People like whitestrake are walking stereotypes of what I used to believe about Republicans. Whitestrake is pure cancer, people like him are what give a lot of moderates a bad opinion of the right.

 

[Terthna]

yes, aside from a fringe minority, conservatives have been FAR MORE friendly and accepting of me even though I don't agree with all the conservative view points, as compared to the left who basically ousted me for disagreeing on a few things.

This is how I see Republicans/conservatives winning in the future. You don't need to roll over and stop believing conservative values..but be respectful and courteous to those who agree on some things but disagree on others.

Last couple elections I voted R down ticket. Guess what? I'm not a republican, I have some disagreements that are fundamentally opposed to Republicans/conservatives...but because you people were kind and respectful to me and have had a bunch of conversations with me over the years, I changed my mind about most of the negative thoughts I had. And you all got through to me and convinced me I was wrong on a bunch of policy stuff, too.

And look at that. Another Republican voter.

Unfortunately, I've been seeing less and less of that respect coming from conservatives as of late, in regards to people who happen to disagree with them on something. It's gotten to the point where this alliance against the regressive left seems to be in serious danger of fracturing.

 

[Rocinante]

Unfortunately, I've been seeing less and less of that respect coming from conservatives as of late, in regards to people who happen to disagree with them on something. It's gotten to the point where this alliance against the regressive left seems to be in serious danger of fracturing.

I agree. Anger and frustration is running high. People are digging in and being less welcoming to outsiders. The war mentality is taking over. I wish it wasn't going in this direction but I'm afraid it is. This is likely a blowback from the media turning the propaganda to 11 while the Democrats have gone full blown fascist authoritarian.

Though that probably has send more people over to the right. Even if a lot of people have been less polite. After the last few years, I will ever vote for a Democrat again with the exception of maybe a like Tulsi Gabbard, depending who the opponent is.

 

[posh-goofiness]

Unfortunately, I've been seeing less and less of that respect coming from conservatives as of late, in regards to people who happen to disagree with them on something. It's gotten to the point where this alliance against the regressive left seems to be in serious danger of fracturing.

I've noticed the opposite.

 

[bintananth]

Let's try the third option:

This is a disgusting perversion of human nature, two males pretending to be married and dragging innocent children into their immorality play as props, at the price of those children not being cared for by their mothers and their mothers enduring the challenges of pregnancy without a child. I describe it as disgusting because it is. Because of your own failings, you insist on trying to re-frame it as "using offensive terms" so you can play the victim, play the offended party.

The victims are the children being used as props by narcissists.

Let's try a fourth option even @Abhorsen's Libertarian views might find palatable ...

Those two children wouldn't exist without two gay men willing to say "we want kids and are willing to foot the bill to raise them".

 

[Terthna]

I've noticed the opposite.

I don't see how you could have; on this forum alone conservatives are increasingly insulting people they disagree with, calling them stupid, enemy shills/sympathizers, and worse.

 

[prinCZess]

(Referenced somewhat in tandem with the Dave Rubin stuff previously)

Spoiler

Wait...

Simulation's breaking-down.

 

[bintananth]

That's rich coming from someone trans ...

 

[SchrodingersWehraboo]

 

[LordsFire]

I don't see how you could have; on this forum alone conservatives are increasingly insulting people they disagree with, calling them stupid, enemy shills/sympathizers, and worse.

Most Conservatives aren't very active on the internet, or if they are, it's in facebook groups with people they know IRL. Part of the reason leftists tend to end up dominating internet spaces, is there's a lot more leftists spending a lot more time online, where conservatives are a lot more likely to be spending time with a spouse and children.

Also, the fringe types like Whitestrake are disproportionately represented, because they're generally either outright disallowed, or just shouted down, in IRL conservative spaces.

 

[Bigking321]

I have seen a few people get hostile when it gets suggested that we should stay out of the Ukraine thing.

 

[Simonbob]

For anybody who's serious about their faith, gay couples, "married" or not, is simply wrong. White is showing a willingness to support what he actually feels, whether people tell him he's wrong or not.

I'm not sure I agree, although I don't thing gay is as healthy, mentally speaking, as straight. I don't think it makes them sinners or the like, but I'm not Christian.

I do know that the statistics on gay couples raising kids aren't great. It's been a while since I read the details, though.



I think the biggest problem with this argument is that nobody's allowed to be serious in their faith these days, unless you're Islamic.

 

[Scottty]

Gonna be honest... I don't see how it's any morally worse than adoption...

Okay let me explain it to you: The reason that homosexual couples want to adopt other people's children is so that they can sexually molest them.
(Not always of course, but it's a factor)
The end-goal there is the legitimization of pedophilia.

The real problem though is the lack of a healthy family for the children. Arranging a legal pretense of a family in which a child is raised by sodomites instead of a mother and a father -- while their own mother is still alive! -- is wretched. The outcomes for children without both parents are inferior for what should be obvious reasons. Children need the things their mothers and fathers have to offer. In particular, children need to see how their mother and father relate to learn how to act... unless of course the goal is to breed more sodomites, in which case denying them this learning will help achieve that goal.

Quoted for truth.

...Why is the Catholic Church the final moral Arbiter?

It would be for Roman Catholics. For anyone else it's just one more body of tradition that we can agree or disagree with.

EDIT: I'd like to once more point out, Sodom and Gomorrah wasn't about the gay, or the public sex, it was about the rape, and the breaching of hospitality.

All of it together. Homosexual gang-rape of any visitors to their town who stayed overnight. Which was an insane way to behave, if they cared at all about maintaining friendly relations with other communities in the region - such as the coalition led by Abram that had rescued them from the Babylonians.
There was a reason that the outcry against them led to Divine judgement.

Dave Rubin is a classic definition of how the left has used identity politics to manipulate people, and why it's now failing.

The left supported his personal interest (normalization of homosexuality), so he aligned himself with them; he actually used to be part of The Young Turks. However, when reality slapped him in the face (According to him when he got into a discussion with Larry Elder on why black America is the way that it is), he actually cared enough to pay attention.

Then the raw animosity that the left treated him with for daring not to toe the party line drove him away, and he has steadily been driven further from the left as a result.

He also saw that while conservatives consider his sexual lifestyle immoral, all but a fringe will still treat him as a human being with respect and dignity, especially if he does the same and return.

And this why the "Right" will end up being everyone who isn't an extreme Leftist.

I don't see how you could have; on this forum alone conservatives are increasingly insulting people they disagree with, calling them stupid, enemy shills/sympathizers, and worse.

There's currently a big shooting war on in Europe, that could theoretically lead to cities all over the world vanishing in glorious flashes of light and giant majestic mushroom clouds. I can understand why some people are a bit more tense.

 

[ShadowsOfParadox]

The end-goal there is the legitimization of pedophilia.

Ok, where exactly is your evidence that Dave Rubin and Husband want to legitimize pedophilia?

 

[Rocinante]

Ok, where exactly is your evidence that Dave Rubin and Husband want to legitimize pedophilia?

He's making a slippery slope argument, I don't think it applies to these individuals specifically, but just the movement as a whole.

Which has a bit of a point, but isn't entirely accurate in my opinion.

So, it's true that the movement toward accepting gays has moved toward trans, and it is giving rise to some pro-pedo bullshit.

However, most gay people are not pedos, and don't want to spread acceptance of it. They aren't part of some conspiracy to make pedophilia acceptable. Stopping them from getting married or raising children isn't the solution to this problem. But we really need to stop that slope from being so slippery, somehow.

 

[Blasterbot]

I do know that the statistics on gay couples raising kids aren't great. It's been a while since I read the details, though.

source please. I have not seen any sort of study since academia and algorithms suppress anything related to it.

 

[posh-goofiness]

I don't see how you could have; on this forum alone conservatives are increasingly insulting people they disagree with, calling them stupid, enemy shills/sympathizers, and worse.

The internet represents a very small subset of conservatives. This forum represents an even smaller fraction of that whole. You focus too much in the small number of negative interactions you have and ignore the daily neutral to positive interactions that you have just as a matter of course. Taking the pool of people on this forum and then scaling up the general temperaments of posters to generalize to the whole body of conservative thought is fruitless.