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Rocinante

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This.
THis is the issue. Yall are Ignorant. Because you aren't willing to think "Maybe he was wrong. Maybe he didn't know as much as he thought." I have more training then he did, and I am enlisted in the Army. The whole thing he leaked, was a nothing burger that he would have had explained to him if he went through the proper channels, but if he felt it was more then the normal context, it would have gone up and he would be declared a whistleblower.

AGain, I am done, because an argument one can not defend, is an argument one should not be in.
You can't defend it because it's a dumb argument.

I'll agree to let it drop.
 

Whitestrake Pelinal

Like a dream without a dreamer
He could have went to a congressman. Because if he gets retaliation those who did that can lose their position to getting comepltly fired.
You obviously don't know what he can and couldn't do because you have not done your reasearch.
NSA bigwigs were perfectly willing give Congress the runaround.


Liars are not trustworthy. I remember debating this with a friend of mine in cybersecurity; he was firmly in your camp, while I was split. Not anymore, I've seen so much bullshit dishonesty and abuse of authority great and small that I now believe that, though Snowdens leaks likely caused America harm, the price was worth it.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
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NSA bigwigs were perfectly willing give Congress the runaround.


Liars are not trustworthy. I remember debating this with a friend of mine in cybersecurity; he was firmly in your camp, while I was split. Not anymore, I've seen so much bullshit dishonesty and abuse of authority great and small that I now believe that, though Snowdens leaks likely caused America harm, the price was worth it.
No it wasn't.
Guess what, a whistle-blower can also go to Congress. Bypass the NSA entirely.
Guess who didn't do that?
 

Whitestrake Pelinal

Like a dream without a dreamer
No it wasn't.
Guess what, a whistle-blower can also go to Congress. Bypass the NSA entirely.
Guess who didn't do that?
I don't think anyone here is claiming that Snowden observed his chain of command or followed NSA protocol for addressing alleged wrongdoing by superiors. He obviously did not.

The trouble we have is that we have no faith in either NSA leaders to adhere to written policy, or Congress to enforce lawful limitations on the NSA in general, because both have failed to do so in the past. It went something like this:

Congressmen: Do you spy on Americans?
Clapper: No
A wild Snowden appears!
Congressmen: But you said under oath that you didn't spy on Americans!
Clapper: Well, akshually, we kind of did but it was for a good cause.
Congressmen: harrumph harrumph harrumph! (nothing happens)
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
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I don't think anyone here is claiming that Snowden observed his chain of command or followed NSA protocol for addressing alleged wrongdoing by superiors. He obviously did not.

The trouble we have is that we have no faith in either NSA leaders to adhere to written policy, or Congress to enforce lawful limitations on the NSA in general, because both have failed to do so in the past. It went something like this:

Congressmen: Do you spy on Americans?
Clapper: No
A wild Snowden appears!
Congressmen: But you said under oath that you didn't spy on Americans!
Clapper: Well, akshually, we kind of did but it was for a good cause.
Congressmen: harrumph harrumph harrumph! (nothing happens)
Because they were probably given a confidential briefing explaining it.
Because as I have said. SNOWDEN stuff was out of comtext
 

Whitestrake Pelinal

Like a dream without a dreamer
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LordsFire

Internet Wizard
not really, it is mostly socialist policies "safety nets" that allow people to get away with degenerate behavior.

Pretty accurate.


This ignores that capitalism does not cause it. Capitalism has no pretensions of being anything more or less than an economic system. It's the moral system you coordinate with it that determines what you're going to get.

The rampant degeneracy isn't caused by capitalism, it's caused by abandoning God and christian morality.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
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Capitalism is an economic system, not a moral system. The only way in which it can reasonably be said to 'encourage' degeneracy, is the fact that it's easier to be degenerate when you're very prosperous, which is what capitalism tends to bring.
So we should be communist to make sure Degeneracy doesn't happen?
 

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