We really did fight the war on terror in a retarded way.
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We really did fight the war on terror in a retarded way.
Typhonis
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We fought it the way we did because It was a surprise crisis. People do not react well in a surprise crisis situation and the RINOs took advantage of it to not only curtail our liberties but line their own pockets as well.
Blasterbot
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Neocons suck news at 11. Their actions have generated a lot of ill will for us domestically and abroad. their choices have poisoned a fair amount of Gen X and Millennials against republicans likely permanently. a fair portion of the country will only think of Bush, "trickle down economics", and racism when they think of Republicans. Bluntly that the boomer cons ceded so much institutional power to left leaning managerial types fucked us hard. not to mention how far the left the media was allowed to drift without much of an attempt building counter narratives. Rush was only nationally syndicated in 88 and fox started airing in 96. Right wing boomers kinda checked out at a certain point and only some have realized how bad a fuck up that was.
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No, the Boomers were the ones that actually built the foundation of the modern Conservative movement. When they came of age the institutions were already completely compromised, and had been for decades. They never had the opportunity to "resist" the slow creeping power of the Left in the US, rather, they were the first generation that actually began to successfully fight back.
When did the Communists infiltrate much of the US State Department and over government institutions? In the 1930s and 40s... before the boomers were even born. When did academia begin its fall to corruption? As far back in the 1920s when the Fundamentalists were driven from Academia by the Modernist. Who wrote and developed theories about sex that the Boomers embraced? It wasn't by other Boomers, but by Kinsey, who's infamous reports were published in 1948 and 1953, oh, and Kinsey was born in 1894. When was Hollywood infiltrated by communists for their propaganda purposes... oh right, that was ALSO back in the 1940s and 1950s, when the Boomers were infants or not yet even born.
Meanwhile, as the Boomers came of age you saw the conservative movement suddenly begin actually BEING A THING. Reagan got elected in massive landslides, and enabled the first growth of counter establishment media via AM radio... and who led that charge? Rush Limbaugh, a Boomer. While many Silent Generation and earlier types laid the intellectual foundations with publications like the National Review, it was Boomers who spread the work out on radio. Further, know who predominately led the charge in allowing homeschooling in the US? A group known as the Homeschool Legal Defense Association, founded by Michael Farris... another Boomer. Further actual Conservative Republicans basically ran the US House through the entire 1990s starting with the 1994 Republican Revolution, which was the first time Republicans took majority in the House in 42 years!
I understand it's popular to blame the Boomers for the problems, but they're as much victims of the situation as we are, they just happened to come earlier than us and at the time it wasn't as obvious how critically bad things were. They did what they could to push back, laying critical foundational frameworks everyone here takes for granted (for instance, people constantly say: "just homeschool your kids" without realizing that before the 1980s THAT WAS BASICALLY ILLEGAL TO DO.). Could they have done more? In hindsight, of course? But that's with HINDSIGHT! Frankly, as far as generations go, Millennials get a much worse grade. As Boomers came of voting age and power they elected Reagan... whereas the first major election Millennials widely voted in gave us Obama...
So perhaps learn more history and understand how long term this fight actually is, rather than simply blaming your parents... or perhaps grandparents... for not doing enough.
This all ignores the elephant in the room; Conservative Boomers were always outnumbered by centrist and liberal or progressive Boomers after Veitnam killed, or converted to liberals, many young Conservative Boomers.
Vietnam was a great filter for in that regard; the liberal and moderates felt far less need to go die pointlessly out of patriotic fervor.
He embraced Hollywood fame and Cowboy cache, along with corporate conservatism, which still thought the finances of nations states and households operate the same way.
The power of previously being a civie celebrity and media darling is something most politicians don't have, and has a cross-demo appeal that is hard to quantify.
The moderates and liberals who also were rather favorable to Reagan, because the Dems were that bad at that point.
Also Reagan's formula worked for him, and maybe Trump; it's not univerally applicable to every election cycle or candidate for the GOP, another lesson the GOP never seemed to learn, partly because Boomer-cons/Neo-con Reaganite worship.
The GOP's inabilities to see how the continued worship of Reagan is not helpful with most modern audiences is one of it's greatest failings.
Very similar to how Trump won, he initiated a populist revolt against both the mainstream GOP and the institutional left. And Reagan was hardly the ultra-conservative people make him out to be. The dude's wife was an open practicing witch who knew Anton Levey and Allistair Crowley. He created the first no-fault divorce policies in the nation and IIRC won California's governorship by playing blue-dog democrats against the radicals and the black ethnonats. He was soft on the LGBT issue compared to guys like Pat Buchanan and was far less hawkish about the Cold War...opting to resort to econ warfare rather than continuing to empower the glowies. He pardoned a bunch of wetbacks and let even more mojados come in scot free and he played the old-school center-left foreign policy game of "Pay other people to start shit with our enemies" rather than using the CIA.
He wielded the US economy like a nuclear weapon, which was very much a fusion of center-left Caribbean populist strategies and Teddy Roosevelt-style conservatism. Courting the Evangelical right, which had been weakened by communist infiltration into things like the National Review...men like H.W Bush and Irving Kristal who had begun to make big government neoconservatism popular. He even flirted with Libertarian ideology.
He bucked the status quo and positioned himself as a social conservative willing to embrace anything that worked.
And he governed like a reverse Bill Clinton. And I'd argue that Bill's stance on divorce and welfare was more conservative than Reagan's.
Mind ye, I think he's the last great right-wing President...But Reagan was hardly the caricature of conservatism both sides make him out to be.
Neither was Nixon, who was downright fiscally liberal on a lot of issues.
Raegan played the game, he was Trump with a smoother mouth and a better grasp on politics, he was ruthless to his opposition when he needed to be but he was also more than happy to reach across the aisle.
That's why his own Vice President had the Hinkley's try and murder him after all...Nah kidding about that...Well probably.
It's actually one of the more compelling conspiracy theories but nah...
There's also one elephant in the room that the Lefties don't like to talk about, or one that even the most braindead in the US government would like to admit: Musk is indispensable to them because of what he's bringing to the table in things like technology and infrastructure and any future plans/ideas that'll fall out of his ass/brain.
When push comes to shove, they'll happily sacrifice all their little cats' paws to keep Musk around, and the Defamation League? Yeah, despite their importance to entities like the WEF, they'll get sold up the river harder than Jews in Nazi Germany if needed.
I'm... honestly not betting on the ADL's chances here.
And good. Fuck 'em.
When push comes to shove, they'll happily sacrifice all their little cats' paws to keep Musk around, and the Defamation League? Yeah, despite their importance to entities like the WEF, they'll get sold up the river harder than Jews in Nazi Germany if needed.
I'm... honestly not betting on the ADL's chances here.
And good. Fuck 'em.
DarthOne
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I’m not so sure about Musk being indispensable to them. Though a lot of that flip flops for me because there are Boomers who don’t (at least appear to) have the best grasp on modern technology.
So for me it’s hard to tell if they won’t get rid of him because they think they can ‘just’
get some one else to replace him. Or if they think Musk is much more important then he is because they don’t grasp the technology.
Of course all this assumes that Musk won’t switch sides. It’s not like we haven’t had that happen before.
Doomsought
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He is only indispensable for people with aspirational values. For people who see the world as a zero sum game, he is only an enemy because of how he violates their world view.
The guy is literally pushing the envelopes of a lot of technologies critical to the advancement of Western civilization e.g. space travel. Everything else like Twitter is just a side-amusement for him which is tolerated/ignored by everyone but dyed-haired weirdos, masked thugs and pro-Black racists, and feminists.
They'd happily throw every SJW cats' paws of theirs, the people who see him as their "ideological enemy" e.g. not a transtrender, a Leftist weirdo, a Black Power communist, or AntiFa, under the bus with a big smile on their faces as they're ground into paste.
Those in the government/areas of power that do view him as an enemy won't act because they know the moment they do, they become the liability/enemy to their former peers.
They're not that stupid.
StormEagle
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Considering all the stupid shit the ruling elite has done and gotten away with, I don’t think they’ll hesitate to go after one South African boi.
Are rulers are the worst of all worlds. Vicious in their stupidity, as well as infinitely greedy and malicious.
The question isn’t will they go after Musk. The question is, why wouldn’t they go after Musk?
posh-goofiness
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Space travel is only of interest to them if they control it. Ergo, why the absolutely will nationalize any space company that gets too successful.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
The government is highly unlikely to start nationalizing companies because their donors where their money comes from are smart enough to realize that can and will eventually be used against them too.
So I'm in the break room and this news channel called MSNBC is on with a host named Joe Scarborough and a cohost.
He also has four guests on at the same time who all seem to be of the same point of view he has.
But for some reason it's this Joe person who is talking the entire time. Occasionally one of these Women gets an agreeable sentence in then he drones on and on for a few more minutes.
It's like that loud guy at the Kids Sports Game or Family BBQ who decides to talk politics and everyone else just agrees with him because they don't care and/or know any better but they make an occasional comment to be polite.
It's really top tier news analysis and commentary.
EDIT:
I searched YouTube to see if they uploaded a relevant clip but... instead I found the highlights from the previous episode of Morning Joe. The HIGHLIGHTS video is over 46 minutes long... I think that's longer then the show itself! It's only an hour long with commercials. 😭
It must all be so good that you can't cut any of it out... this is peak News! We're blessed to live in such a time.
He also has four guests on at the same time who all seem to be of the same point of view he has.
But for some reason it's this Joe person who is talking the entire time. Occasionally one of these Women gets an agreeable sentence in then he drones on and on for a few more minutes.
It's like that loud guy at the Kids Sports Game or Family BBQ who decides to talk politics and everyone else just agrees with him because they don't care and/or know any better but they make an occasional comment to be polite.
It's really top tier news analysis and commentary.
EDIT:
I searched YouTube to see if they uploaded a relevant clip but... instead I found the highlights from the previous episode of Morning Joe. The HIGHLIGHTS video is over 46 minutes long... I think that's longer then the show itself! It's only an hour long with commercials. 😭
It must all be so good that you can't cut any of it out... this is peak News! We're blessed to live in such a time.
Governor Ron DeSantis said he sent planes to Israel to evacuate 700 people.
NBC News Fact Checkers have discovered this is only half true.
Governor DeSantis only funded the planes to Israel to evacuate 700 people.
NBC News Fact Checkers have discovered this is only half true.
Governor DeSantis only funded the planes to Israel to evacuate 700 people.
Ixian
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My question to the "fact checkers" would be thus "would the planes have went if the Governor hadn't funded them?"
Lord Sovereign
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(Fact checkers proceed to start screaming about how racist you are, much to your bafflement as this conversation had nothing to do with race).
Contrarianism is one Hell of a drug.