Media/Journalism Cringe Megathread - Hot off the Presses

[GoldRanger]

Nothing new.At least for us,poles.They blame us for germans crimes since about 1980.
They lie about "polish concentraction camps" and want money from Poland becouse germans killed polish citizens.
By the way - some Israeli decided to lie about polish concentracion camps,too.

And palestinian really was robbed of their land by Israel,so their claims,unles dudes who say that Poland is responsible for german crimes,are at least partially true.

As you could see,media could lie more then in your case.Like When they wrote about polish death camps.

A huge mass of Poles collaborated with the Nazis, not to mention there was a wave of attacks on what few Jews remained in the country after the Nazis already left. Also, it's not like it's a great secret that Poles are antisemites: You are being redirected...

Your country is THE worst in Europe, rating at 45%. That's worse than any other country in Europe. And yes, I trust this source, certainly on this matter.

Then of course there are the recent laws Poland is pushing that won't allow returning Jews their property from before the Holocaust.

You really like to derail threads to talk randomly about your country, trying to prove it's not antisemitic by badmouthing Jews, which is hilarious. Either post actual examples of deceptive or cringy media, or fuck off. I'm not interested in your drivel.

 

[Doomsought]

Also, it's not like it's a great secret that Poles are antisemites:

Well now I know you are a liar, you sited the ADL.

 

[Cherico]

A huge mass of Poles collaborated with the Nazis, not to mention there was a wave of attacks on what few Jews remained in the country after the Nazis already left. Also, it's not like it's a great secret that Poles are antisemites: You are being redirected...

Your country is THE worst in Europe, rating at 45%. That's worse than any other country in Europe. And yes, I trust this source, certainly on this matter.

Then of course there are the recent laws Poland is pushing that won't allow returning Jews their property from before the Holocaust.

You really like to derail threads to talk randomly about your country, trying to prove it's not antisemitic by badmouthing Jews, which is hilarious. Either post actual examples of deceptive or cringy media, or fuck off. I'm not interested in your drivel.

Once again Collaborators are traitors to the polish people and the polish state it is fundamentally unfair to judge a nation or its people by its traitors.

 

[GoldRanger]

Well now I know you are a liar, you sited the ADL.

Yes, I cited the ADL. Your point? How does this make me a liar?

Once again Collaborators are traitors to the polish people and the polish state it is fundamentally unfair to judge a nation or its people by its traitors.

When the amount of traitors is that huge, and when the modern behavior of the people is out there in the open, it's very hard not to judge.

Edit: I've considered that maybe I'm wrong and misremembering my history or something, so I checked. Nope, 350 Jews murdered in pogroms in Poland the year after WWII, and that's with the communist government actively trying to stop antisemitism. Please don't try to gaslight me again.

 

[Cherico]

Yes, I cited the ADL. Your point? How does this make me a liar?


When the amount of traitors is that huge, and when the modern behavior of the people is out there in the open, it's very hard not to judge.

Edit: I've considered that maybe I'm wrong and misremembering my history or something, so I checked. Nope, 350 Jews murdered in pogroms in Poland the year after WWII, and that's with the communist government actively trying to stop antisemitism. Please don't try to gaslight me again.

how am I gaslighting, Poles who willingly collaberated with the nazi's a regime that invaded their country and committed attroicities against the polish people are traitors, and it takes time to round up and try traitors after a war is over.

Don't get me wrong those 350 jews should not have been murdered, that was a crime, and the people who did so were criminals but it is entirely unfair to judge an entire nation for the actions of traitors and criminals. Let's keep the blame on where it belongs the nazi's and their collaberators who all deserved a long drop with some rope.

 

[GoldRanger]

how am I gaslighting, Poles who willingly collaberated with the nazi's a regime that invaded their country and committed attroicities against the polish people are traitors, and it takes time to round up and try traitors after a war is over.

Don't get me wrong those 350 jews should not have been murdered, that was a crime, and the people who did so were criminals but it is entirely unfair to judge an entire nation for the actions of traitors and criminals. Let's keep the blame on where it belongs the nazi's and their collaberators who all deserved a long drop with some rope.

I am not convinced that the Polish people as a whole have left this thinking behind them. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, but I'm not convinced from what I've seen of Poland. Now Germany itself is another story, they truly are repentant.

In any case, this is a huge derail.

 

[Sobek]

I am willing to bet most of that "massive anti-semitism" in Poland the ADL is complaining about came after some jews started asking Poland for reparations and pushing the "they were collaborators" line to the extreme.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

I am willing to bet most of that "massive anti-semitism" in Poland the ADL is complaining about came after some jews started asking Poland for reparations and pushing the "they were collaborators" line to the extreme.

Turns out when you keep calling people names, they go "Ok, fuck it. I'm a racist/antisemite/sexist! Fuck off, k***!" Whodda thought? Not the ADL and the grifters, that's for sure.

 

[ATP]

A huge mass of Poles collaborated with the Nazis, not to mention there was a wave of attacks on what few Jews remained in the country after the Nazis already left. Also, it's not like it's a great secret that Poles are antisemites: You are being redirected...

Your country is THE worst in Europe, rating at 45%. That's worse than any other country in Europe. And yes, I trust this source, certainly on this matter.

Then of course there are the recent laws Poland is pushing that won't allow returning Jews their property from before the Holocaust.

You really like to derail threads to talk randomly about your country, trying to prove it's not antisemitic by badmouthing Jews, which is hilarious. Either post actual examples of deceptive or cringy media, or fuck off. I'm not interested in your drivel.

Funny lies.

1.If we collaborated,then why german murdered not only those who helped jews,but also their families? even those who hidden arsenals was not punished that way.
And when in 1846 austrian wonted polish uprising cheaply destroyed,they just pay polish peasant in vodka for gentry heads.
Why germans do not pay for jews head,if we really were that bad ? and why punished those who helped jews at all?

2.In Warsaw 10.000 jewish clercks made lists of jews who was send to death.2.500 jewish policeman delivered those jews to railstation,where 60 bored germans looked at their hard work.1000 jewish agents of gestapo seek jews who was hidden by poles to gave them to germans.
How many fought against germans in 1943? 700 or less.

If we were collaborators,then who was jews ?

3.In Kielce in 1946 39 jews was killed - by polish commies,soldiers and militia.In part of one building.Families of jews serving in soviet secret police which lived in second half was untouched.

4.My country worst in Europe...then why jews in germany could not use their traditional robes,becouse they are attacked ? In Poland they could go whatever they want.

5.Recent laws do not let take property of people who was murdered by Germans and do not leave successors.In all cyvilised countries,included USA,people could not inherit some dude possesion only becouse they belong to the same nation.
And,when we speaking about property,when exactlt Israel would gave up land stolen from Palestinian ?

6.If do not want derail,why do you lied about property law?

But,back to topic - Of course media lie about "innocent muslims" ,but that not change the fact that jews illegally stolen their land.I do not like muslim,but property law is one for everything.So muslims have exactly the same property laws like you or me.

 

[Bacle]

 

[Rocinante]

I like Sam Harris. I don't like his anti Trump stances, but his app is fucking awesome, his "Waking Up" book was great, and he does have some interesting opinions. And they give the app membership for free to people who request it.

So it's good to see him own up to some of the mistakes he's made here.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

You know that as funny as it is. it shows moral character to admit when one is wrong especially when the spirit of the age is so much against such an admission.

 

[Bear Ribs]

From VOX writer Aaron Rupar:



Yup, it's Republicans who are cheapening impeachment, not the Democrats who even tried to Impeach Trump when he was out of office. Some other folks have noticed a slight change in Rupar's standards of what is worth impeachment, between administrations.



Yeah, he was calling for Trump's impeachment every few days for years, but it's Republicans who are cheapening impeachment.

 

[Cherico]

From VOX writer Aaron Rupar:



Yup, it's Republicans who are cheapening impeachment, not the Democrats who even tried to Impeach Trump when he was out of office. Some other folks have noticed a slight change in Rupar's standards of what is worth impeachment, between administrations.



Yeah, he was calling for Trump's impeachment every few days for years, but it's Republicans who are cheapening impeachment.

The iron law of politics is do not unleash something you dont want the enemy to use.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Apparently, the reason Biden's approval is dropping is not because of Afghanistan but because the Media is so mean to him, because it's very right-leaning and Democrats get no support from media compared with how they adored Trump.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/08/why-the-media-is-worse-for-biden-than-trump.html?utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=di&utm_medium=s1

I think this bit is my favorite:

Traditional journalistic norms may have weakened, especially in subjects like culture and sports, but they remain intact in most newsrooms, and especially in political coverage. Those norms enshrine a certain definition of objectivity that implicitly favors, in addition to social liberalism, hawkish foreign policy, deficit reduction, and bipartisanship.

Bold added by me. The very concept of bipartisanship is not, as you might think, bipartisan but actually Republican propaganda.

Or maybe this...

In recent days, CNN and MSNBC looked a lot like Fox News, all hyping chaos in Afghanistan 24/7. That is the kind of comprehensive media hostility Trump never had to worry about.

 

[Bigking321]

Huh...

I guess you can function in society without a working brain.

Good for the people that wrote that!

 

[Cherico]

Apparently, the reason Biden's approval is dropping is not because of Afghanistan but because the Media is so mean to him, because it's very right-leaning and Democrats get no support from media compared with how they adored Trump.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/08/why-the-media-is-worse-for-biden-than-trump.html?utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=di&utm_medium=s1

I think this bit is my favorite:

Traditional journalistic norms may have weakened, especially in subjects like culture and sports, but they remain intact in most newsrooms, and especially in political coverage. Those norms enshrine a certain definition of objectivity that implicitly favors, in addition to social liberalism, hawkish foreign policy, deficit reduction, and bipartisanship.

Bold added by me. The very concept of bipartisanship is not, as you might think, bipartisan but actually Republican propaganda.

Or maybe this...

In recent days, CNN and MSNBC looked a lot like Fox News, all hyping chaos in Afghanistan 24/7. That is the kind of comprehensive media hostility Trump never had to worry about.

......


CNN bent over fucking backwards for biden, they pretty much destroyed every sliver of respect they had. God damned I need
more popcorn



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[Rocinante]

Nobody who actually pays attention believes this. Not even the left.

The media was in a hostile frenzy toward Trump, and bends over backwards to cover for Biden.

It's just the recent stuff from Biden is SO BAD, and they're SO THIRSTY for ratings since Trump left, that they can't afford not to jump on it.

The Afghanistan mess drives viewers, and even though they run cover for Biden constantly, the ratings are more important.

What's funny is if you watch the coverage, they're still being really careful not to be too mean or critical of Biden. They just have slightly criticized him. And the far left cultists are now "omg they're attacking Biden! Nazis reeeeeeee"

 

[Bear Ribs]

Nobody who actually pays attention believes this. Not even the left.

I dunno, I've seen multiple threads on SB with title variants on "Why is the media so hostile to Biden and so nice to Trump?" Maybe it's just all smoke and mirrors but it seems to me there's actually a portion who genuinely believe that Biden's being criticized more than Trump was, or perhaps just feel that any criticism of Biden must be inherently wrong.

 

[Bigking321]

They gaslight themselves.

If you lie constantly and consistently then eventually you will think it's the truth.