Media/Journalism Cringe Megathread - Hot off the Presses

bintananth

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They're only just admitting it now because they know they don't have to put in the effort to keep selling it anymore; it's already passed, after all, and there are no takebacks.
They didn't raise taxes. They actually reduced them for all corporations (after accounting shenanigans) from the 21% it was.

Someone very charismatic channeled Regan's "tax cuts raise tax revenue" Laffer Curve shenanigans and got people to believe them.

I remember the late Clinton years. 39.6% personal and 38% corporate at the highest income levels. The economy was good and the Treasury, for a short while, was paying off US gov't debt faster than it was issuing it.
 

S'task

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I remember the late Clinton years. 39.6% personal and 38% corporate at the highest income levels. The economy was good and the Treasury, for a short while, was paying off US gov't debt faster than it was issuing it.
Then you remember the late 90s wrong. There was never any real government surplus, it was all projected surplus based on the current income and rate of economic growth; however, that growth was not due to good fundamentals of the economy, but rather the late 90s Dot Com Bubble, which began to burst in 2000 and had collapsed completely by 2001, completely eliminating that surplus. 2001 saw the economy begin to recover, but then something happened in September that sent everything into a negative spiral with an unprecedented week long closure of Wall Street and a major darkening of the American mood for some reason while also seeing a massive increase in government spending on new security measures.

It's an understandable mistake though, the media functionally covered up that the Dot Com bubble was bursting and failed to properly report on much of the so called government surplus, they didn't want the negative news to harm their preferred candidate for President as bad economic news would hurt the more establishment candidate over the challenger. It nearly worked too, making the 2000 election much closer than it should have been if people had been properly informed of the economic situation.
 

bintananth

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So much for one of the "Four Horsemen" of atheism; in retrospect, I suppose it should have been obvious where his true allegiances lay.
The flies will find the shit and the rot. Soon enough, there will be maggots everywhere exposing the shit and the rot if the flies are not removed immediately.
 

Captain X

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So much for one of the "Four Horsemen" of atheism; in retrospect, I suppose it should have been obvious where his true allegiances lay.
Which is pretty good considering how the people he's throwing in with have treated him over the years. :cautious:
 

bintananth

behind a desk
Then you remember the late 90s wrong. There was never any real government surplus, it was all projected surplus based on the current income and rate of economic growth; however, that growth was not due to good fundamentals of the economy, but rather the late 90s Dot Com Bubble, which began to burst in 2000 and had collapsed completely by 2001, completely eliminating that surplus. 2001 saw the economy begin to recover, but then something happened in September that sent everything into a negative spiral with an unprecedented week long closure of Wall Street and a major darkening of the American mood for some reason while also seeing a massive increase in government spending on new security measures.

It's an understandable mistake though, the media functionally covered up that the Dot Com bubble was bursting and failed to properly report on much of the so called government surplus, they didn't want the negative news to harm their preferred candidate for President as bad economic news would hurt the more establishment candidate over the challenger. It nearly worked too, making the 2000 election much closer than it should have been if people had been properly informed of the economic situation.
You remember the late '90s, the bursting of the .com bubble, and 9/11 differently than I do.

9/11/2001 I was out to get breakfast from McDonalds when I saw a line of cars waiting for gasoline. My first reaction was "hmm, that's odd" before I went about my business. I didn't switch my car's sterio from playing a CD to FM until I was pulling into my garage. That's when a neighbour made it clear that I should check the news.

"Tomorrow is a problem to be dealt with; tomorrow."

I couldn't do jack shit about 9/11 and didn't even worry about it. I could do something about the aftermath. That was looking out for a pair of guys from the UAE named Muhummad whose parents basically said "You're on the first flight out of the US we can get."

Their parents were scared that a "dumb redneck*" might take it out on them.

* Not the words they used. They used "hoosier" in the Missouri way and they knew I was from Indiana.
 

Captain X

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Sam Harris was one of the few consistent ones who insisted on holding Islam to the same standard he held all the other religions to, which is exactly what put him on the wrong side of the Left. The effectively unpersoned him and the fact he insists on going along with whatever they want now is pretty shocking to me, let alone the fact it's over suppressing evidence because "orange man bad." I legit thought better of him even if I didn't agree with him on everything.
 

Rocinante

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Sam Harris was one of the few consistent ones who insisted on holding Islam to the same standard he held all the other religions to, which is exactly what put him on the wrong side of the Left. The effectively unpersoned him and the fact he insists on going along with whatever they want now is pretty shocking to me, let alone the fact it's over suppressing evidence because "orange man bad." I legit thought better of him even if I didn't agree with him on everything.
He's always had hard-core tds

In other media news...so long Brian Stelter.

 

ATP

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You don't get to celebrate gas prices dropping when they're still double what they were under Trump. This is still elevated prices.

True,but many democrat voters would buy it.Becouse orange man bad.Me good progressive,i vote democrats.

Sad thing - in Poland at least 20% of population is like that.Dunno,how bad it is in USA.
 

DarthOne

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NYT Op-Ed: Throw out the ‘Broken Constitution’ and ‘Reclaim America’



The “broken” and “famously undemocratic” U.S. Constitution “stands in the way” of “real” freedom and democracy, according to a New York Times op-ed by two Ivy League law professors.

The pair issued a call to “radically alter the basic rules of the game” by no longer requiring us to “justify our politics by the Constitution.”

A Friday New York Times essay, titled “The Constitution Is Broken and Should Not Be Reclaimed,” and penned by law professors Ryan D. Doerfler of Harvard and Samuel Moyn of Yale, claims when liberals “lose in the Supreme Court” they often blame justices for misreading the Constitution, yet in reality, “struggling over the Constitution has proved a dead end.”

“The real need is not to reclaim the Constitution, as many would have it, but instead to reclaim America from constitutionalism,” the authors assert, as they attack the “some centuries-old text.”



The essay also claims that constitutions, and “especially the broken one we have now,” direct us to the past, something that “aids the right” which tends to stick “with what it claims to be the original meaning of the past.”

Though liberals have attempted to “reclaim” the Constitution for half a century, the essay claims they have “agonizingly little to show for it” while calling to “radically alter the basic rules of the game.”

The authors also criticize progressives for attempts to “regain ownership of our founding charter,” mistakenly attributing the problem to the Supreme Court’s “hijacking” of the Constitution rather than the charter itself.

“[E]ven when progressives concede that the Constitution is at the root of our situation, typically the call is for some new constitutionalism,” they write.

Calling the current Constitution “inadequate” and “famously undemocratic,” the authors wonder why progressives bother to “justify our politics by the Constitution or by calls for some renovated constitutional tradition.”

“It would be far better if liberal legislators could simply make a case for abortion and labor rights on their own merits without having to bother with the Constitution,” they add.

Accusing “constitutionalism” of “leaving democracy hostage to constraints that are harder to change than the rest of the legal order,” the essay argues the way to seek “real freedom” will be a “new way of fighting within American democracy” with a “more open politics of altering our fundamental law,” suggesting that the Constitution be made “more amendable” than it currently is.

“One way to get to this more democratic world is to pack the Union with new states,” the authors write. “Doing so would allow Americans to then use the formal amendment process to alter the basic rules of [politics] and break the false deadlock that the Constitution imposes through the Electoral College and Senate on the country, in which substantial majorities are foiled on issue after issue.”

However, the authors state, Congress could “openly defy” the Constitution to “get to a more democratic order,” with the basic structure of government being “decided by the present electorate, as opposed to one from some foggy past.”

“A politics of the American future like this would make clear our ability to engage in the constant reinvention of our society under our own power, without the illusion that the past stands in the way,” they conclude.

The piece comes as many on the left continue to attack the epic founding governmental document.

Last month, a Rasmussen Reports survey revealed that most Democrats believe the U.S. Constitution is fundamentally “racist” and “sexist.”

According to the report:

Most of President Joe Biden’s strongest supporters are in favor of rewriting the Constitution. Among voters who Strongly Approve of Biden’s job performance as president, 54% at least somewhat agree that the Constitution “should be mostly or completely rewritten.” By contrast, among voters who Strongly Disapprove of Biden’s performance, just 10% agree that the Constitution should be rewritten and 81% Strongly Disagree with rewriting the Constitution.
Also last month, Georgetown University Law School Professor Rosa Brooks stated that Americans were “slaves” to the U.S. Constitution which was written by “a tiny group of white slave-owning men.”

In May, President Joe Biden, while pushing for more gun control, told reporters that “the Constitution, the Second Amendment was never absolute.”

In March, MSNBC panelist and The Nation‘s justice correspondent Elie Mystal called the Constitution “trash” written by the “captains of the slaving industry.”

He also said the Founding Fathers were “racist, misogynist jerkfaces” and spoke of the importance of critiquing the origins of the Constitution, which he described as “not great” and often “working purposefully towards those not great outcomes.”

In 2020, University of Texas at Austin Constitutional Law Professor Richard Albert argued that the United States should revise the Constitution to remove “racist” and “gendered” language.




DOWN WITH THE TRAITORS, UP WITH THE STARS!
 

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