I never said there was, only that the 'lesser evil' for a long time in the community was the people not wanting to lobodomize them if someone even admitted to being gay.The P's are always trying to latch on, and every time in the past they have eventually (usually quite quickly) been thrown back off.
As to @Bacle, there's no excuse for gays consorting with pedos, just like there's no excuse for anyone else doing the same.
When people fear getting lobodomized for even admitting to being gay, reporting abuse is a lot harder, and then there's the pedo's in Hollywood and power using it for...well, look at Harvey Weinstein and Epstein. I understanding why it happened, not approving of it happening.
Make no mistake, there is no room for Ps, and frankly the whole LGB movement was rendered moot-by-victory (or should have been) when Obergfell passed.
I mean having dealt with a P Rabbi long-term substitute teacher looking at porn in class in middle school and getting kicked for it, I know damn well how insidious they can be, and how they can hide under civil, religious, and educational positions. But you don't see me blaming the Jewish community for his actions, do you?
We can condemn Ps without giving the anti-Obergfell groups more power.
The whole Pride thing is a little...absurd.As to @LordsFire The issue is that no, there's nothing special about god that stops degeneracy. There are tons of pedos that worship god, there are tons who don't. That socalled absolute truth you think comes from the bible quite simply isn't one. The points you raise about how one can mess around with the concept of the NAP can be apply a thousand more times to the bible or any other holy book. The NAP is short and simple, and is a lot harder to pervert the meaning of than the bible, to be honest.
The root cause of this is that LGBT 'culture' was a sick one, because it was formed by society exiling them. That's not how a healthy group of people are raised! And once they got accepted, it rapidly became less sick, starting with long term relationships, monogamy, raising kids, etc. Everyone was normalizing, and when they normalized, they left the culture. So now all that's left in the culture is those that loved it. And that's a problem, as they tend to be more fucked up than the norm. And so as the need for the culture died, and people left, bad actors took it over, inheriting a lot of unearned political power.
They absolutely want the repression. They want to be able to bitch and moan, but more importantly, they hat that people integrated with society. The amount of hate LGBTs get from the community for integrating successfully is large. From complaining about 'passing privilege' for Ts who transition well, to calling Bis who end up with the opposite sex straight, to other shit, it's fucked up. And so it pushes more LGBTs out of the community (a win) but further cedes power to the crazies (a loss). Like, Pride is important because I know there are still people who would rather us go and fucking disappear, and more importantly, there are still gays who are taught that they are awful for being gay. But it's less important every year, and more and more I dislike the people there.
Frankly I think the Right would be more accepting of LGBs if we stopped with all the pride month bullshit; I don't give a damn if someone wear's a rainbow pin, and frankly I think the 'Pride' movement should have ended with a victory celebration after Obergfell.