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Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
I wish alt media people sent Tucker videos of their streams from the days leading up to the great boomer walkathon.

See, I saw videos where DC cops assaulted the children of random protectors and dared them to come find them in the Capitol building etc.

This entire expose by Carlson proves what anyone with a brain knew. That it was all a fed psyop.

And that the people's House belongs to the people and anyone who suggests airing your grievances directly to the source is an insurrection is himself a traitor to this nation and an oathbreaker if he or she should have served.
 

Ixian

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The leftwing legacy media has absolutely dogpiled Tucker Carlson and Fox over their release of the additional Jan 6th footage.

Hypocritically accusing him of selectively showing footage to push a narrative. Its so sickening and transparent, absolute projection from those clowns.
 

Pocky Balboa

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Scum of the earth those people on the Jan 6th committee.

Not just them, the people who supported them, the people who called the Jan. 6 protesters worse than Antifa and BLM, the ones keeping the protesters in prison and prosecuting them, and the people who wished for terrible things to happen to the protesters like saying they should have been gunned down are all pieces of shit. They can all go fuck themselves and I hope whatever terrible things they wished on the protesters happens to them a hundredfold.
 

Bigking321

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The reaction to this is kind of sad and pathetic.

Tucker plays footage they refused to release that shows it was pretty much all lies.

Chuck makes a statement that fox should stop him. Murdock should stop him. He should not be allowed to release the footage.

McConnell goes out and says releasing the footage was a mistake. It casts doubt on the narrative and that's bad. I stand by the narrative. More proof that the republican establishment was in on it

Various news people are furious. How dare Tucker release the footage. Doesn't he know it was a violent attempt to overthrow the country? How dare he show stuff that actually happened.

And then various people on other sites talking about how sad it is that Tucker is trying this. It was obviously a violent insurrection. We all know it. We all agree about it. Some actual footage doesn't mean anything. It's probably faked or something. What are we going to believe, our lying eyes or the obviously correct narrative. It WAS a VIOLENT INSURRECTION! Any evidence to it being something else is A LIE!

It is just depressing as hell.

I don't think anything can sway these people. They have drunk long and deep from the kool-aid. The narrative is their reality. Actual reality is the lie.
 

Megadeath

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The reaction to this is kind of sad and pathetic.

Tucker plays footage they refused to release that shows it was pretty much all lies.

Chuck makes a statement that fox should stop him. Murdock should stop him. He should not be allowed to release the footage.

McConnell goes out and says releasing the footage was a mistake. It casts doubt on the narrative and that's bad. I stand by the narrative. More proof that the republican establishment was in on it

Various news people are furious. How dare Tucker release the footage. Doesn't he know it was a violent attempt to overthrow the country? How dare he show stuff that actually happened.

And then various people on other sites talking about how sad it is that Tucker is trying this. It was obviously a violent insurrection. We all know it. We all agree about it. Some actual footage doesn't mean anything. It's probably faked or something. What are we going to believe, our lying eyes or the obviously correct narrative. It WAS a VIOLENT INSURRECTION! Any evidence to it being something else is A LIE!

It is just depressing as hell.

I don't think anything can sway these people. They have drunk long and deep from the kool-aid. The narrative is their reality. Actual reality is the lie.
Is it more or less sad than you just completely ignoring footage that doesn't suit your narrative? Because regardless of what you think this specific footage means there's tons of videos and photos of people forcing their way past barricades, crushing up against lines of police, hell there's footage from Ashli Babbitt and others forcing their way through a window against (obviously) armed resistance.

But no, this particular footage somehow negates all the rest. Don't trust the narrative, or your lying eyes. Just believe in what the mad prophet tucker tells you. Even though he's made it quite clear he'll say whatever he thinks his idiotic base wants to hear: Tucker Carlson said he hates Trump ‘passionately’: legal filings
 
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Cherico

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Is it more or less sad than you just completely ignoring footage that doesn't suit your narrative? Because regardless of what you think this specific footage means there's tons of videos and photos of people forcing their way past barricades, crushing up against lines of police, hell there's footage from Ashli Babbitt and others forcing their way through a window against (obviously) armed resistance.

But no, this particular footage somehow negates all the rest. Don't trust the narrative, or your lying eyes. Just believe in what the mad prophet tucker tells you. Even though he's made it quite clear he'll say whatever he thinks his idiotic base wants to hear: Tucker Carlson said he hates Trump ‘passionately’: legal filings

tell you what I will give a single shit about what you say the moment all of the left wing terrorists who acted like madmen during 2020 are brought to justice.

Every single member of antifa, every single person who rioted in DC and made it so bad the president was forced into a bunker. How about that how about the left takes the beam out of their own eyes first before they start commenting about a bunch of idiot boomers?
 

Bigking321

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But no, this particular footage somehow negates all the rest.
Where did you get that idea?

They definitely released footage that they spun to make it look as bad as possible. (Although it's now been proven they edited the footage they released to add sound effects like screaming and such.)

The new footage they refused to release shows people being escorted by security, doors being unlocked, them being lead to the senate chamber by the police and so on.

I think everyone has been rather consistent that if people were violent or rioting then charging them for it is fine.

But it's a rather odd insurrection when security is waving people in, showing them around the place, not doing anything at all to stop them.

It kinda shows it wasn't really a violent insurrection, right? Just a handful of people causing trouble. But that doesn't fit the narrative that the whole thing was a coup attempt or whatever.

I wonder why they refused to release the footage and are trying to stop it from being released? If it's true, what's the problem?

Oh, it's shows the insurrection narrative was a complete fabrication and they have been blatantly lying for years. That's why.
 

Megadeath

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tell you what I will give a single shit about what you say the moment all of the left wing terrorists who acted like madmen during 2020 are brought to justice.

Every single member of antifa, every single person who rioted in DC and made it so bad the president was forced into a bunker. How about that how about the left takes the beam out of their own eyes first before they start commenting about a bunch of idiot boomers?
So, pure what-aboutism, of a group I'm in no way part of and that has nothing to do with this issue? That would be a shitty argument for a child. Do better.

Where did you get that idea?

They definitely released footage that they spun to make it look as bad as possible. (Although it's now been proven they edited the footage they released to add sound effects like screaming and such.)

The new footage they refused to release shows people being escorted by security, doors being unlocked, them being lead to the senate chamber by the police and so on.

I think everyone has been rather consistent that if people were violent or rioting then charging them for it is fine.

But it's a rather odd insurrection when security is waving people in, showing them around the place, not doing anything at all to stop them.

It kinda shows it wasn't really a violent insurrection, right? Just a handful of people causing trouble. But that doesn't fit the narrative that the whole thing was a coup attempt or whatever.

I wonder why they refused to release the footage and are trying to stop it from being released? If it's true, what's the problem?

Oh, it's shows the insurrection narrative was a complete fabrication and they have been blatantly lying for years. That's why.

Yep, just a couple bad apples here and there, mostly engaged in "peaceful" protest, with the obvious support and encouragement of law enforcement.

Also BS on "I think everyone has been rather consistent that if people were violent or rioting then charging them for it is fine." I think we both know that it'd take about 5 minutes if that to find someone in this very thread arguing they didn't do nothing, or it's not their fault because they were set up. Or, immediately above your post we have @Cherico saying he won't hear a word against them until all his perceived enemies are taken care of first. 🙄
 

Bigking321

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So... are you saying the new footage is or isn't real?

What's actually is your take on the Jan 6th thing?

Does the new footage change anything for you?

I personally still think it was fed plants encouraging bad behavior to entrap people with the assistance of the capital police, democrats, establishment Republicans, and lowered security in general with the objective of creating the violent insurrection narrative to try and discredit Trump and the populist America first movement.

What's your take on it?
 

Megadeath

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So... are you saying the new footage is or isn't real?

What's actually is your take on the Jan 6th thing?

Does the new footage change anything for you?

I personally still think it was fed plants encouraging bad behavior to entrap people with the assistance of the capital police, establishment Republicans, and lowered security in general with the objective of creating the violent insurrection narrative to try and discredit Trump and the populist America first movement.

What's your take on it?
Doesn't much change my stance either. I don't believe there was any/much serious, organised attempt at any kind of coup, insurrection or whatever. I do believe certain more extreme groups did have more specific plans, but that the general chaos didn't really suit them, and that they were too half hearted and uncertain to really push any kind of play. I believe there was a huge number of people, all very emotional. Upset and angry, and with a very wrong idea of the situation. I think they were intentionally wound up by trump. (Without any specific plan. The idiot just does whatever comes to his mind first and wings it from there.) I also think more malicious actors were stoking things more intentionally, on various social media. I think tensions got high enough for the worst/stupidest actors in the crowd to decide to "do something" and they lashed out. I think as often happens in such things, mob mentality dragged far more people than whatever initial small fraction were engaged into illegal and unacceptable behaviour.

I think in the earlier stages, some security and police acted to defuse tensions by making concessions and backing down. I think in some areas away from the more frenzied action most people were more milling around like illegal tourists, than trying to put the capital to the torch. Where they were less numerous or emotions had played out, I imagine they were willing enough to go along with police and security direction about where to go. I think some footage from the event has also been taken out of context.
 

Bigking321

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How about the shaman guy in particular?

Apparently he was escorted by security the entire time he was in the building. They basically gave him a tour and let him into the senate chamber. He publicly thanked them for their support and for them letting him in.

Does he deserve the 41 months of prison time they sentenced him with?

Edit: And apparently they refused to let him use this footage at his trial?
 

Megadeath

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How about the shaman guy in particular?

Apparently he was escorted by security the entire time he was in the building. They basically gave him a tour and let him into the senate chamber. He publicly thanked them for their support and for them letting him in.

Does he deserve the 41 months of prison time they sentenced him with?

Edit: And apparently they refused to let him use this footage at his trial?
Well, dude pleaded guilty and agreed to the sentence himself, so who am I to disagree with it? Also, "escorted by security the entire time he was in the building"?
Maybe in the sense that he was followed without physical confrontation as they didn't have the numbers to do that everywhere they wanted, but he was not on some kind of perfectly legit guided tour, nor did he believe the situation was anything of the sort.
 

Bigking321

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Maybe in the sense that he was followed without physical confrontation as they didn't have the numbers to do that everywhere they wanted, but he was not on some kind of perfectly legit guided tour, nor did he believe the situation was anything of the sort.
Have you actually looked at the new footage?

He has guards with him the entire time. They go in front of him to try and open doors for him. They go to multiple entrances of the senate chamber till they find a unlocked one. He is outnumbered the entire time.

There are like a dozen security guys right outside the senate chamber during that picture you posted. They let all those guys in to set up their photo shoot.
 

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