Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

[Megadeath]

uh no the complaint is it breaks their narrative. they would have sat on it if it was handed to them. your belief in the integrity of dirty smear merchants is misplaced.

Lol, at this point, it's very clear that certain media outlets are nothing more than extensions of the Democrat Party and by position, the federal government.

Of course the fool would accuse others of being gormless, which at the same time holding the critical thinking abilities of a drooling vegetable. Seriously, how is this so difficult for you?

Why yes, if we take your beliefs as axiomatic, by gosh I'm an idiot for arguing with them! Why did I not just accept the inherent and obvious nature of your subjective and unprovable position?

 

[Blasterbot]

Why yes, if we take your beliefs as axiomatic, by gosh I'm an idiot for arguing with them! Why did I not just accept the inherent and obvious nature of your subjective and unprovable position?

a completely incorrect way of viewing it. the media is not neutral. just look at how it presents everything. actually read the headlines of coverage of BLM's summer of love. read their articles. read about how many people died and how much destruction was wrought across the country. then read Jan 6th coverage. read the headlines. compare the damages. understand the bias and don't just accept what the talking heads say as fact.

 

[Ixian]

Why yes, if we take your beliefs as axiomatic, by gosh I'm an idiot for arguing with them! Why did I not just accept the inherent and obvious nature of your subjective and unprovable position?

I think the media biases are very clear. You choosing to stick your head in the sand and pretend otherwise is your own problem.

 

[Bacle]

Isn't McConnel no longer running for Senate after this term?

That's the first I'd heard Cocaine Mitch was considering retirement.

I'm just worried the Dems will make a big play for his seat, and his area isn't as red as it used to be.

Why yes, if we take your beliefs as axiomatic, by gosh I'm an idiot for arguing with them! Why did I not just accept the inherent and obvious nature of your subjective and unprovable position?

If you do not think there is an open and obvious media slant against anything not progressive, and against anything related to Trump or Jan 6th, I got a beach front to sell you in the Gobi.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

I guess? But I'd think you'd find "any" gaps in coverage weird in such a building, and not having a bunch of stuff that your client claimed happened show up should probably raise a flag. I guess part of it does come down to what exactly was asked, how exactly it was responded to and what the specific relevant laws actually say. None of which I know.

The defense was given thousands of hours of random video to try and piece together. Defense has NO IDEA how many cameras there are. How in the hell is he supposed to know what's missing. There's no way in hell they can put the kind of time in to piece all that together. Especially, with the Feds willfully withholding 'damaging' footage from the Defense.

This alone should be enough to vacate every judgement to date...since it was intentional on the part of the Federal Government, it should be vacated WITH PREJUDICE.

THEN everyone involved in that decision loop should be brought up on federal charges for interfering with an investigation, tampering with evidence, and I'm sure they're are many more charges available.

 

[Blasterbot]

FBI caught lying and trying to destroy evidence to fuck over Americans. is anybody surprised? my only surprise here is that they got caught lying on the stand.

 

[Typhonis]

How long untill a mistrial is openly declared by the judge?

 

[Ixian]

FBI caught lying and trying to destroy evidence to fuck over Americans. is anybody surprised? my only surprise here is that they got caught lying on the stand.

I'm surprised they were called out on it at all.

 

[Blasterbot]

How long untill a mistrial is openly declared by the judge?

depends on the judge. DC circuit is very pro dem establishment overall. same with the jury pool. I could see this just getting pushed through anyways and needing to be appealed. which will take more time and money. and since the process is the punishment here... also there isn't really any blowback on a judge for that if he does do it. they aren't usually elected and even if he was the local electorate is of similar mindset.

 

[S'task]

depends on the judge. DC circuit is very pro dem establishment overall. same with the jury pool. I could see this just getting pushed through anyways and needing to be appealed. which will take more time and money. and since the process is the punishment here... also there isn't really any blowback on a judge for that if he does do it. they aren't usually elected and even if he was the local electorate is of similar mindset.

These are Federal charges in Federal courts, the "local electorate" has absolutely jack shit to do with their careers. The jury pool is an issue, I'll grant, but mistrial for withholding evidence doesn't require a jury verdict, only a judge's decision.

If the Republicans had balls, any judge who doesn't start treating the governments with more suspicion on failing to hand over exculpatory evidence should be expecting at minimum their careers are functional stuck, as they'll never get past the Senate for future appointments. Further, any judge who doesn't and ends up having a higher court overturn them DUE to exculpatory evidence being demanded in appeal that the government failed to provide on their watch should just be impeached and removed as incompetent.

That said, it is unlikely the judges will face any real punishment. That said, they also have no motive to go along with the party DC line as their jobs are not beholden to it. In fact, given how low opinions in DC institutions have fallen, in many respects judges might actually be motivated to hold the government MORE accountable than usual, since it allows them to look good compared to everyone else. Further, while they might be liberals or progressives the government failing to hand over exculpatory evidence is a HUGE two edged sword and the judicial branch has consistently had a longer term view on these things than the liberal and progressives in the other branches. As such the judges are much more likely to take the correct path here and push back on the prosecutional overreach, lest the shoe one day be on the other foot.

 

[Cherico]

These are Federal charges in Federal courts, the "local electorate" has absolutely jack shit to do with their careers. The jury pool is an issue, I'll grant, but mistrial for withholding evidence doesn't require a jury verdict, only a judge's decision.

If the Republicans had balls, any judge who doesn't start treating the governments with more suspicion on failing to hand over exculpatory evidence should be expecting at minimum their careers are functional stuck, as they'll never get past the Senate for future appointments. Further, any judge who doesn't and ends up having a higher court overturn them DUE to exculpatory evidence being demanded in appeal that the government failed to provide on their watch should just be impeached and removed as incompetent.

That said, it is unlikely the judges will face any real punishment. That said, they also have no motive to go along with the party DC line as their jobs are not beholden to it. In fact, given how low opinions in DC institutions have fallen, in many respects judges might actually be motivated to hold the government MORE accountable than usual, since it allows them to look good compared to everyone else. Further, while they might be liberals or progressives the government failing to hand over exculpatory evidence is a HUGE two edged sword and the judicial branch has consistently had a longer term view on these things than the liberal and progressives in the other branches. As such the judges are much more likely to take the correct path here and push back on the prosecutional overreach, lest the shoe one day be on the other foot.

The ones who don't bother fighting are being purged as for the rest, I fully expect statues dedicated to the jan 6th protestors 40 plus years from now. They have created martyrs by being so obnoxious.

 

[Blasterbot]

If the Republicans had balls, any judge who doesn't start treating the governments with more suspicion on failing to hand over exculpatory evidence should be expecting at minimum their careers are functional stuck, as they'll never get past the Senate for future appointments. Further, any judge who doesn't and ends up having a higher court overturn them DUE to exculpatory evidence being demanded in appeal that the government failed to provide on their watch should just be impeached and removed as incompetent.

If.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Can everyone who called the Jan 6 protestors insurrections in public TV be given life sentences in jail?

 

[Blasterbot]

Can everyone who called the Jan 6 protestors insurrections in public TV be given life sentences in jail?

no 1st amendment and all that. admittedly government officials do not have the same protections as the average citizen. particularly when operating in their official capacity on behalf of the state.

 

[Captain X]

TL;DW: This involves the Proud Boys trial. An FBI agent was present and attempted to hide the fact. The FBI hid evidence. The FBI destroyed evidence. The DoJ apparently believes that attorney/client confidentiality does not apply to people who are incarcerated and wants to record phone calls and look at emails. Tim Poole is apparently pretty black-pilled.

 

[Megadeath]

Can everyone who called the Jan 6 protestors insurrections in public TV be given life sentences in jail?

Lol. Would you really like for defamation suits to come with the penalty of life in prison? It would be hilarious, and definitely make general public political and media discourse much more polite.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Lol. Would you really like for defamation suits to come with the penalty of life in prison? It would be hilarious, and definitely make general public political and media discourse much more polite.

Yes, I believe people that political figures and media being so willy billy to accuse others should be moderated.

Just for you know blatantly obvious bullshit that is a lie

 

[Bear Ribs]

Lol. Would you really like for defamation suits to come with the penalty of life in prison? It would be hilarious, and definitely make general public political and media discourse much more polite.

Who wouldn't want to live in a world where every person who said there were suspicious deaths connected to the Clintons got life in prison?

 

[Scooby Doo]

Who wouldn't want to live in a world where every person who said there were suspicious deaths connected to the Clintons got life in prison?

Tbf I wouldn't count that as Defamation, I would say it's factually correct that it's suspicious.

Truthful claims would still be allowed in this verse, so it's off set by no one in politics or media being able to talk shit about Trump so much.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Tbf I wouldn't count that as Defamation, I would say it's factually correct that it's suspicious.

Truthful claims would still be allowed in this verse, so it's off set by no one in politics or media being able to talk shit about Trump so much.

If it was "truthful" (in the only sense the legal system cares about) the Clintons would be in prison for it.