Religion Does the New Testament teach that Jesus is the God of the Old Testament, Yahweh?

King Arts

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1.Muslims belived that Koran was dictated by Allah.We do not belive that Bible was dictated by God - but writen by prophets.
Hence we have creating Earth in 6 days,fictional Salomon Empire,fictional genocide of persian elites - becouse writers could be wrong.

2.Luder changed his name ,and run to abbey becouse he killed in duel.And then destroyed abbeys,becouse he must fuck somebody so he thought that everybody must.
He never changed.
Saul killed christians,Paul helped them and died for Christ.So,he was changed.

3.There are examples - 3 so far was found here,2 in fake letters.Every other time Jesus is human,or at best we could have suggestion that HE is God.

Look at numbers - how many times Jesus is described as Messiah who is human,not God.
Not warrior Messiash for which jews waited,but still human.

4.Almost every time Bible mention God,name HIM as GOD.So,if NT consider Jesus as GOD,HE would be mentioned as such.
Especially when Peter talked in Temple after Holy Spirit come,or Paul before judges.In both cases they described Jesus as human.

5.Actually,in almost all of cases i checked Jesus is described as human.

Here,another:


2 Corinthians 11:31


31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who is to be praised forever, knows that I am not lying.

Again,God is God,and Jesus is Lord,not God.Paul could name HIM as such if he wanted,and named GOD as GOD..

And,poor uneducated human - i do not thing,that fakes are fakes.Scholars who knew languages and could check in which style book wrote claim so.
Here,again,especially for you:

Solomon's empire was a real thing. We know David existed, and we know he had a son who became his heir, otherwise Israel would have collapsed without the King. Also why do you keep misspelling Solomon's name? I can understand Stalin(Sralin) Luthor(Luder) because you dislike one for being an atheist communist who enslaved your nation, and Luthor is a protestant and heretic schismatic to you. But Solomon was a prophet the Catholic Church acknowledges him as a great man why would you disrespect him?

Anyway since we are on the topic of Soloman. @Stargazer @Scottty why is demonology or summoning demons banned in Christianity? I mean I understand enslaving humans to work for you and build you stuff or farm is a sin. But Solomon according to some people I've heard was able to summon and control(enslave) demons according to Jewish, and Christian sources. Muslims say they were Djinn. But anyway folklore says that that is how the first temple was built and relatively quickly because he used spirits to do it. So why can't Christians enslave other beings using magic when Solomon was able to do it?
 

Stargazer

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Anyway since we are on the topic of Soloman. @Stargazer @Scottty why is demonology or summoning demons banned in Christianity? I mean I understand enslaving humans to work for you and build you stuff or farm is a sin. But Solomon according to some people I've heard was able to summon and control(enslave) demons according to Jewish, and Christian sources. Muslims say they were Djinn. But anyway folklore says that that is how the first temple was built and relatively quickly because he used spirits to do it. So why can't Christians enslave other beings using magic when Solomon was able to do it?

A ton of loaded questions there lol. First, where did you get the idea that summoning demons is even possible according to Christianity, let alone banned? What are these "Jewish and Christian sources" about Solomon that you're referring to? I don't really care all that much about folklore.
 
Solomon's empire was a real thing. We know David existed, and we know he had a son who became his heir, otherwise Israel would have collapsed without the King. Also why do you keep misspelling Solomon's name? I can understand Stalin(Sralin) Luthor(Luder) because you dislike one for being an atheist communist who enslaved your nation, and Luthor is a protestant and heretic schismatic to you. But Solomon was a prophet the Catholic Church acknowledges him as a great man why would you disrespect him?

Anyway since we are on the topic of Soloman. @Stargazer @Scottty why is demonology or summoning demons banned in Christianity? I mean I understand enslaving humans to work for you and build you stuff or farm is a sin. But Solomon according to some people I've heard was able to summon and control(enslave) demons according to Jewish, and Christian sources. Muslims say they were Djinn. But anyway folklore says that that is how the first temple was built and relatively quickly because he used spirits to do it. So why can't Christians enslave other beings using magic when Solomon was able to do it?

I don't know about catholicism, but I don't know of a single sect of Christianity in America at least that acknowledges demonology as biblical canon.

I know sects that preach against witchcraft as they think it's silly superstition at best and paganism at worst plus bringing up all the old testament scriptures that speak against it. If demonology was proven to be the exception of that, I don't see why it would be banned.

But yeah long answer short, most of us think demonology is just a myth.
 

Bear Ribs

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We do have archeological evidence for Solomon's reign.

I mean, aside from the bible itself which is, y'know, typically considered a requisite for being a Christian.




There's also mounting evidence of widespread trade during that era pointing fairly strongly towards a major boom at the time, and trade with areas in Arabia identified with the Queen of Sheba and her gift of spices.


Further archeological evidence for Solomon is severely hampered by the fact that Muslim Authorities throw a fit if anybody touches the Temple Mount to investigate what's buried there, and the fact that Jerusalem was destroyed and rebuilt several times after Solomon so this evidence is as definitive as it can get given the circumstances.
 

Scottty

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Anyway since we are on the topic of Soloman. @Stargazer @Scottty why is demonology or summoning demons banned in Christianity? I mean I understand enslaving humans to work for you and build you stuff or farm is a sin. But Solomon according to some people I've heard was able to summon and control(enslave) demons according to Jewish, and Christian sources. Muslims say they were Djinn. But anyway folklore says that that is how the first temple was built and relatively quickly because he used spirits to do it.

Errr..... what?
None of that is in the Bible, dude! That stuff about Solomon being some sort of super-magician and using spirits to build things is pure folklore.
And the idea of the Temple which God consecrated by His presence, as an earthly representation of heavenly realities that were to be fulfilled in the Atonement by Christ... being constructed by demons?
How about no.

So why can't Christians enslave other beings using magic when Solomon was able to do it?

Enslaving sapient beings, with magic or otherwise, doesn't sound to me like a very Christian thing to want to do. Just saying.

But in general, I there's a general point to make here: just because someone in the Bible did something, does not by itself mean it's an example we should follow. Solomon broke multiple Divine laws - in the Pentateuch, Moses wrote that any future king was not to take many wives, and not to accumulate vast wealth. And also, of course, that anyone caught practicing divination, seances or other such occult magic should be put to death.

Those things were among the detestable practices of the nations that the LORD had commanded the Israelites to exterminate.

In general, to answer your basic question, to call on the aid of supernatural powers other than God, powers that are themselves in rebellion against God, is to be a party with them in their rebellion. It's breaking the First of the 10 Commandments.
 
Errr..... what?
None of that is in the Bible, dude! That stuff about Solomon being some sort of super-magician and using spirits to build things is pure folklore.
And the idea of the Temple which God consecrated by His presence, as an earthly representation of heavenly realities that were to be fulfilled in the Atonement by Christ... being constructed by demons?
How about no.



Enslaving sapient beings, with magic or otherwise, doesn't sound to me like a very Christian thing to want to do. Just saying.

But in general, I there's a general point to make here: just because someone in the Bible did something, does not by itself mean it's an example we should follow. Solomon broke multiple Divine laws - in the Pentateuch, Moses wrote that any future king was not to take many wives, and not to accumulate vast wealth. And also, of course, that anyone caught practicing divination, seances or other such occult magic should be put to death.

Those things were among the detestable practices of the nations that the LORD had commanded the Israelites to exterminate.

In general, to answer your basic question, to call on the aid of supernatural powers other than God, powers that are themselves in rebellion against God, is to be a party with them in their rebellion. It's breaking the First of the 10 Commandments.

It should be noted that God did seemingly waive the wealth restriction for Solomon because he was pleased that Solomon sought learning and wisdom rather than wealth or power.
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Now Solomon made [a]a treaty with Pharaoh king of Egypt, and married Pharaoh’s daughter; then he brought her to the City of David until he had finished building his own house, and the house of the Lord, and the wall all around Jerusalem. 2 Meanwhile the people sacrificed at the high places, because there was no house built for the name of the Lord until those days. 3 And Solomon loved the Lord, walking in the statutes of his father David, except that he sacrificed and burned incense at the high places.

4 Now the king went to Gibeon to sacrifice there, for that was the great high place: Solomon offered a thousand burnt offerings on that altar. 5 At Gibeon the Lord appeared to Solomon in a dream by night; and God said, “Ask! What shall I give you?”

6 And Solomon said: “You have shown great mercy to Your servant David my father, because he walked before You in truth, in righteousness, and in uprightness of heart with You; You have continued this great kindness for him, and You have given him a son to sit on his throne, as it is this day. 7 Now, O Lord my God, You have made Your servant king instead of my father David, but I am a little child; I do not know how to go out or come in. 8 And Your servant is in the midst of Your people whom You have chosen, a great people, too numerous to be numbered or counted. 9 Therefore give to Your servant an [b]understanding heart to judge Your people, that I may discern between good and evil. For who is able to judge this great people of Yours?”

10 The speech pleased the Lord, that Solomon had asked this thing. 11 Then God said to him: “Because you have asked this thing, and have not asked long life for yourself, nor have asked riches for yourself, nor have asked the life of your enemies, but have asked for yourself understanding to discern justice, 12 behold, I have done according to your words; see, I have given you a wise and understanding heart, so that there has not been anyone like you before you, nor shall any like you arise after you. 13 And I have also given you what you have not asked: both riches and honor so that there shall not be anyone like you among the kings all your days. 14 So if you walk in My ways, to keep My statutes and My commandments, as your father David walked, then I will lengthen[c] your days.”
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but yeah, there was a multitude of other laws that he broke. Just because Solomon was wise didn't change the fact that he was human.
 
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Bear Ribs

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Solomon the Sorcerer is largely derived from the apocryphal Greek text The Testament of Solomon. It's got some pretty obvious greek mythology references such as seven demon sisters identified as the Pleiades who claim to live on Mount Olympus so very clearly not actually written by anybody familiar with Solomon. It also claims the Pentagram is God's personal symbol so... yeah.

 
Solomon the Sorcerer is largely derived from the apocryphal Greek text The Testament of Solomon. It's got some pretty obvious greek mythology references such as seven demon sisters identified as the Pleiades who claim to live on Mount Olympus so very clearly not actually written by anybody familiar with Solomon. It also claims the Pentagram is God's personal symbol so... yeah.


Yeah, I was about to point out that many of the so-called Named demons in Jewish myth such as Baal and Beelzebub were just pagan idols repackaged as demons either for propaganda purposes or to satisfy the beliefs of the common people. (The Jews were doing that kind of thing long before Catholicism thought it was cool and it honestly makes the pharisee's accusations of Jesus in Matthew 12: 22 that much sadder and more pathetic in hindsight.) Aside from Lucifer/Satan himself and possibly Legion, I don't know if there are any canonically named demons.
 
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Bear Ribs

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Yeah, I was about to point out that many of the so-called Named demons in Jewish myth such as Baal and Beelzebub were just pagan idols repackaged as demons for propaganda purposes. ( The Jews were doing that kind of thing long before Catholicism thought it was cool and it honestly makes the pharisee's accusations of Jesus in Matthew 12: 22 that much sadder and more pathetic in hindsight.) Aside from Lucifer/Satan himself and possibly Legion, I don't know if there are any Canonically named demons.
In the existing canon, no demons are named. Not even Satan's actual name is known, Lucifer is from Folklore and actually refers to the planet Venus and Satan just means "Adversary" or "Accuser." In scripture he's normally identified as Ha'Satan, literally "The Adversary" to separate him out from ordinary everyday human satans (Such as Jesus accused Peter of Being for trying to stumble him) who are adversaries.

Only two angels are named in bible canon, Michael and Gabriel. All other angels refused to give their name when asked. My personal belief is that God wanted people to have enough understanding of heaven to realize that Angels were discrete named individuals but a bare minimum of two so as not allow false religions to spring up around deifying them.
 

Stargazer

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One of my favorite corroborations of the Biblical record by archaeological finds is that of King Hezekiah of Judah. There's not only clear evidence that Hezekiah existed, but also that he faced an invasion by the Assyrian king Sennacherib, as recorded in the Bible. Several stone inscriptions made by the Assyrians have been found recording and boasting about the campaign. The Assyrians likely exaggerated the success of the campaign, but there's one crucial detail they leave out, basically agreeing with the Bible - Jerusalem never fell. Can't boast about something that simply never happened.

That goes to show there is historical truth to the record of the history of Israel and Judah in the Bible. You can't just dismiss it out of hand as mythology, like some "scholars" seem to want to do, even if you don't believe that it's divinely inspired.
 
In the existing canon, no demons are named. Not even Satan's actual name is known, Lucifer is from Folklore and actually refers to the planet Venus and Satan just means "Adversary" or "Accuser." In scripture he's normally identified as Ha'Satan, literally "The Adversary" to separate him out from ordinary everyday human satans (Such as Jesus accused Peter of Being for trying to stumble him) who are adversaries.

Only two angels are named in bible canon, Michael and Gabriel. All other angels refused to give their name when asked. My personal belief is that God wanted people to have enough understanding of heaven to realize that Angels were discrete named individuals but a bare minimum of two so as not allow false religions to spring up around deifying them.

I stand corrected. I'll also note that even with God's attempts at ensurring we don't worship angels or demons we've still found a way to attempt to do so by incoperating our own myths and folklore into them and passing it off as truth.

One of my favorite corroborations of the Biblical record by archaeological finds is that of King Hezekiah of Judah. There's not only clear evidence that Hezekiah existed, but also that he faced an invasion by the Assyrian king Sennacherib, as recorded in the Bible. Several stone inscriptions made by the Assyrians have been found recording and boasting about the campaign. The Assyrians likely exaggerated the success of the campaign, but there's one crucial detail they leave out, basically agreeing with the Bible - Jerusalem never fell. Can't boast about something that simply never happened.

That goes to show there is historical truth to the record of the history of Israel and Judah in the Bible. You can't just dismiss it out of hand as mythology, like some "scholars" seem to want to do, even if you don't believe that it's divinely inspired.

which is odd to me. Many scholars have no issue believing there was truth to certain events in greek myth such as the battle of Troy or King Midas while having no trouble acknowledging that the existence of the Olympians themselves was a myth. Heck even with Islam they acknowledge Mohammed as a political leader even if they reject his status as a divine prophet. Why they can't do the same thing with Israel is beyond me.

It's not enough just to say, "Hey we think the Jewish religion is mostly folktales that were added onto over time but there was obvious historical events here." no they have to try and discredit Israel as a whole.
 
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ATP

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We believe that God spoke through the prophets when they wrote the books of the Old Testament. If the writers could be wrong, then God could have been wrong when speaking through them.



If you think Martin Luther "never changed" and believe these things about him, you're either willfully ignorant or blatantly disrespectful of him. And you're showing your disrespect by purposefully calling him the wrong name. Got it.

The Pope is antichrist.



Sure. Because Jesus is also human, and he is the Messiah.



He was mentioned as such, in the New Testament. It doesn't have to be every single time, you have to stand on your head to insist that is the standard.



Because he is.



No one cares.

1.That is islam,where Koran is written by Allah.For christians every human could be wrong - and humans wroten Bible,not God.

2.These things are true.And Luder by his revolution prevented pope from making Crusade against Ottomans.Worst thing - it was first step of revoution,and last is what we see in leftist.

3.Yes,HE IS.Yet God is named as God almost always,when Jesus almost never.Not mention,that jews waited for human Messiah who would get them power,not God.Well,they still wait.

4.Not single time,but in most times.Just like God is almost always named as God.

5.Yes.And God,too.When HE is described as human many times,almost never as God.

6.You could not care about reality,it still exist.

Here,another:


2 Corinthians

8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. 9 But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. 10 That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.
Paul’s Concern for the Corinthians
11 I have made a fool of myself, but you drove me to it. I ought to have been commended by you, for I am not in the least inferior to the “super-apostles,”[a] even though I am nothing.

Again,Jesus is Lord,not God.

P.S current pope could be antichrist.And good catholic Dante in his masterpiece send many popes to Hell.
 

ATP

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Solomon's empire was a real thing. We know David existed, and we know he had a son who became his heir, otherwise Israel would have collapsed without the King. Also why do you keep misspelling Solomon's name? I can understand Stalin(Sralin) Luthor(Luder) because you dislike one for being an atheist communist who enslaved your nation, and Luthor is a protestant and heretic schismatic to you. But Solomon was a prophet the Catholic Church acknowledges him as a great man why would you disrespect him?

Anyway since we are on the topic of Soloman. @Stargazer @Scottty why is demonology or summoning demons banned in Christianity? I mean I understand enslaving humans to work for you and build you stuff or farm is a sin. But Solomon according to some people I've heard was able to summon and control(enslave) demons according to Jewish, and Christian sources. Muslims say they were Djinn. But anyway folklore says that that is how the first temple was built and relatively quickly because he used spirits to do it. So why can't Christians enslave other beings using magic when Solomon was able to do it?

In polish language,we use Salomon,not Solomon.And his empire who supposed to keep land from Euphrat to Egypt never existed - but small state with capitol in Jerusalem/which was small town by then/ was real.

About demons - arabs belive in Salomon powers over jiin,but they are not demons,rather spirits.And orthodox jews do not belive in it,too.Cabalists could belived.
 

ATP

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A ton of loaded questions there lol. First, where did you get the idea that summoning demons is even possible according to Christianity, let alone banned? What are these "Jewish and Christian sources" about Solomon that you're referring to? I don't really care all that much about folklore.

Mostly true,catholics never belived in summonning demons.Inquisition do not belived in witchcraft - so called witches died in protestant and those catholics states,which do not have Inquisition.Like Poland.
Jewish cabalist could belived in it - but,since their knowledge was hidden,it is unknown.

Here,another Paul:


2 Corinthians 12:19-21

19 Have you been thinking all along that we have been defending ourselves to you? We have been speaking in the sight of God as those in Christ; and everything we do, dear friends, is for your strengthening. 20 For I am afraid that when I come I may not find you as I want you to be, and you may not find me as you want me to be. I fear that there may be discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, slander, gossip, arrogance and disorder. 21 I am afraid that when I come again my God will humble me before you, and I will be grieved over many who have sinned earlier and have not repented of the impurity, sexual sin and debauchery in which they have indulged.

As usual - God is God,Jesus is Christ/Messiah/
 

ATP

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I don't know about catholicism, but I don't know of a single sect of Christianity in America at least that acknowledges demonology as biblical canon.

I know sects that preach against witchcraft as they think it's silly superstition at best and paganism at worst plus bringing up all the old testament scriptures that speak against it. If demonology was proven to be the exception of that, I don't see why it would be banned.

But yeah long answer short, most of us think demonology is just a myth.

We catholics knew,that demons are fallen angels,and we have exorcist who could repel them using right rites,like father Amroth.So,they exist.
But Salomon making deals with them? for us,it is joke.
 

ATP

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We do have archeological evidence for Solomon's reign.

I mean, aside from the bible itself which is, y'know, typically considered a requisite for being a Christian.




There's also mounting evidence of widespread trade during that era pointing fairly strongly towards a major boom at the time, and trade with areas in Arabia identified with the Queen of Sheba and her gift of spices.


Further archeological evidence for Solomon is severely hampered by the fact that Muslim Authorities throw a fit if anybody touches the Temple Mount to investigate what's buried there, and the fact that Jerusalem was destroyed and rebuilt several times after Solomon so this evidence is as definitive as it can get given the circumstances.

Yes,there was Izrael state - but you could not find powerpuff Empire from Euprath to Egypt neither in archeology sites,and Egypt,Babilon and Assyria archives.
Becouse both Egyptians and Assyrians lied about their victories - but over other enemies then Izrael.If jews take territories from Euphrat to Egypt,we would knew that.

Errr..... what?
None of that is in the Bible, dude! That stuff about Solomon being some sort of super-magician and using spirits to build things is pure folklore.
And the idea of the Temple which God consecrated by His presence, as an earthly representation of heavenly realities that were to be fulfilled in the Atonement by Christ... being constructed by demons?
How about no.



Enslaving sapient beings, with magic or otherwise, doesn't sound to me like a very Christian thing to want to do. Just saying.

But in general, I there's a general point to make here: just because someone in the Bible did something, does not by itself mean it's an example we should follow. Solomon broke multiple Divine laws - in the Pentateuch, Moses wrote that any future king was not to take many wives, and not to accumulate vast wealth. And also, of course, that anyone caught practicing divination, seances or other such occult magic should be put to death.

Those things were among the detestable practices of the nations that the LORD had commanded the Israelites to exterminate.

In general, to answer your basic question, to call on the aid of supernatural powers other than God, powers that are themselves in rebellion against God, is to be a party with them in their rebellion. It's breaking the First of the 10 Commandments.



I agree.Especially,that in Salomon times Temple was so small that nothing of it survived next building made there.

Now,another Paul:

2 Corinthians 13:2-7




2 I already gave you a warning when I was with you the second time. I now repeat it while absent: On my return I will not spare those who sinned earlier or any of the others,

3 since you are demanding proof that Christ is speaking through me. He is not weak in dealing with you, but is powerful among you.

4 For to be sure, he was crucified in weakness, yet he lives by God’s power. Likewise, we are weak in him, yet by God’s power we will live with him in our dealing with you.

5 Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?

6 And I trust that you will discover that we have not failed the test.

7 Now we pray to God that you will not do anything wrong—not so that people will see that we have stood the test but so that you will do what is right even though we may seem to have failed.


God is God,and Jesus is living by Gods power.
 

ATP

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One of my favorite corroborations of the Biblical record by archaeological finds is that of King Hezekiah of Judah. There's not only clear evidence that Hezekiah existed, but also that he faced an invasion by the Assyrian king Sennacherib, as recorded in the Bible. Several stone inscriptions made by the Assyrians have been found recording and boasting about the campaign. The Assyrians likely exaggerated the success of the campaign, but there's one crucial detail they leave out, basically agreeing with the Bible - Jerusalem never fell. Can't boast about something that simply never happened.

That goes to show there is historical truth to the record of the history of Israel and Judah in the Bible. You can't just dismiss it out of hand as mythology, like some "scholars" seem to want to do, even if you don't believe that it's divinely inspired.

Yes,it is true.It is also true,that the same Assyrians do not mentioned powerpuff Salomon Empire which supposed to cover from Euprath to Egypt.
Strange,becouse if it existed,they would fought.And even if they lost,they still would mention such battles,of course lying about their victories.
So - Salomon state existed,but was so small that nobody mentioned it.


Here,another Paul:


2 Corinthians 13:13-14

13 All God’s people here send their greetings.

14 May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.

Again,God is God,Jesus is Messiah.

Second Corinthians - 21,5:1,5.
Becouse in 3 times you could argue that Paul suggest that Jesus is God without saing it.
 
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We catholics knew,that demons are fallen angels,and we have exorcist who could repel them using right rites,like father Amroth.So,they exist.
But Salomon making deals with them? for us,it is joke.

I think I need to make clear, when I referred to demonology, I was referring to the art of summoning and controlling demons not the existence of demons themselves. Most every Christian I know of believes demons exist even if there is debate on if they still interact with the phisical world and to what extent. But yeah thanks for letting me know your perspective.
 

Stargazer

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1.That is islam,where Koran is written by Allah.For christians every human could be wrong - and humans wroten Bible,not God.

2.These things are true.And Luder by his revolution prevented pope from making Crusade against Ottomans.Worst thing - it was first step of revoution,and last is what we see in leftist.

3.Yes,HE IS.Yet God is named as God almost always,when Jesus almost never.Not mention,that jews waited for human Messiah who would get them power,not God.Well,they still wait.

4.Not single time,but in most times.Just like God is almost always named as God.

5.Yes.And God,too.When HE is described as human many times,almost never as God.

6.You could not care about reality,it still exist.



P.S current pope could be antichrist.And good catholic Dante in his masterpiece send many popes to Hell.

Ok, so you deny that God spoke through the prophets of the Old Testament and reject the Nicene Creed and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Got it.

If you want to talk about reality, the reality is that the New Testament identifies Jesus as God in multiple places. If you believe that all of Scripture is theopneustos, "God-breathed", and is thus the sole infallible rule of faith for believers, then the inescapable conclusion is that Jesus is God. Not only God, but the God of the Old Testament, who is Yahweh.

The popes have been antichrist probably since after Gregory the Great.

Yes,it is true.It is also true,that the same Assyrians do not mentioned powerpuff Salomon Empire which supposed to cover from Euprath to Egypt.
Strange,becouse if it existed,they would fought.And even if they lost,they still would mention such battles,of course lying about their victories.
So - Salomon state existed,but was so small that nobody mentioned it.

Umm, what? I've literally never heard that Solomon's kingdom stretched from the Euphrates river to Egypt. Do you have a Biblical reference in mind?
 
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ATP

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I think I need to make clear, when I referred to demonology, I was referring to the art of summoning and controlling demons not the existence of demons themselves. Most every Christian I know of believes demons exist even if there is debate on if they still interact with the phisical world and to what extent. But yeah thanks for letting me know your perspective.

To be precise - few catholic saints once wrote,that fallen angels which regrettet their sins could have chance for redemptions - but first,i forget which saint and where,and second - it is not our problem.
God maybe could save them if they regret - but,for me it do not matter.
So,i naver thought about that,and wrote only becouse iit could be important for you.

P.S i read it long ago in book about medieval theology,so they must lived in medieval times or earlier.
 
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