Oh I'm not trying to pull a gotcha Roc.
I'm just pointing out what I have seen with people.
'Climate Change' and the coming 'Climate Lockdown'
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I'm just pointing out what I have seen with people.
Out of all the vax it is the only one doing the actual strain
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This is what happens when you let the EPA shut down all your Peaker Plants. They burn gas and sometimes coal in order to meet peaking high demands. They don't run all the time at capacity, they're just there to make sure the grid keeps going strong.
There are many things we need to tell the EPA, and "Shove it!" is just one of them.
This is what happens when you let the EPA shut down all your Peaker Plants. They burn gas and sometimes coal in order to meet peaking high demands. They don't run all the time at capacity, they're just there to make sure the grid keeps going strong.
There are many things we need to tell the EPA, and "Shove it!" is just one of them.
Doomsought
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They need charged with industrial sabotage.
Realistically most of the EPA's functions could be split between OSHA and the Corp of Engineers without any loss in oversight to prevent industrial tragedies.
Every OSHA reg is written in blood, not green fantasies like the EPA is driven by now.
mrttao
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Should be using only nuclear for peaker plants.
Bear Ribs
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Almost worth going in News of the Amused.
The secretary of Energy went on a Road Trip in Electric Vecicles to promote Biden's new initiatives making it easier to find chargers and EV infrastructure, and to encourage people to buy more Electric Vehicles.
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Despite meticulously planning their trip to maximize charging stations, they were plagued with broken chargers, slow chargers, and inconsiderate people who also wanted to charge their EVs.
So the Secretary came up with the clever solution to send a gas car on ahead and have it block everybody's access to the chargers so that she wouldn't have to wait in line like some plebian, prompting the irate family being forced to sit in the sun with a baby in the car to call the police. The police, of course, weren't about to confront Biden's Secretary of Energy and instead decided there ain't no law against parking an ICE vehicle blocking everybody's access to a charging station so even asking them to move was too much trouble.
Ultimately despite her clever gas car hack, it took Granholm four days to cover a stretch of road a gas car does in nine and a half hours.
The secretary of Energy went on a Road Trip in Electric Vecicles to promote Biden's new initiatives making it easier to find chargers and EV infrastructure, and to encourage people to buy more Electric Vehicles.
Electric cars have a road trip problem, even for the secretary of energy
A road trip I took with Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm confirmed one thing: The U.S. is wrestling with an inadequate charging network (unless you're a Tesla driver).
wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu
Irate family called police on Jennifer Granholm's team for blocking charging station spot for her electric car
Biden Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm's staff was involved in a stand-off with a family who called the police over a contested electric charging station.
www.foxnews.com
Despite meticulously planning their trip to maximize charging stations, they were plagued with broken chargers, slow chargers, and inconsiderate people who also wanted to charge their EVs.
So the Secretary came up with the clever solution to send a gas car on ahead and have it block everybody's access to the chargers so that she wouldn't have to wait in line like some plebian, prompting the irate family being forced to sit in the sun with a baby in the car to call the police. The police, of course, weren't about to confront Biden's Secretary of Energy and instead decided there ain't no law against parking an ICE vehicle blocking everybody's access to a charging station so even asking them to move was too much trouble.
Ultimately despite her clever gas car hack, it took Granholm four days to cover a stretch of road a gas car does in nine and a half hours.
mrttao
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The sheer fucking arrogance of this woman.Almost worth going in News of the Amused.
The secretary of Energy went on a Road Trip in Electric Vecicles to promote Biden's new initiatives making it easier to find chargers and EV infrastructure, and to encourage people to buy more Electric Vehicles.
Electric cars have a road trip problem, even for the secretary of energy
A road trip I took with Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm confirmed one thing: The U.S. is wrestling with an inadequate charging network (unless you're a Tesla driver).Irate family called police on Jennifer Granholm's team for blocking charging station spot for her electric car
Biden Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm's staff was involved in a stand-off with a family who called the police over a contested electric charging station.
Despite meticulously planning their trip to maximize charging stations, they were plagued with broken chargers, slow chargers, and inconsiderate people who also wanted to charge their EVs.
So the Secretary came up with the clever solution to send a gas car on ahead and have it block everybody's access to the chargers so that she wouldn't have to wait in line like some plebian, prompting the irate family being forced to sit in the sun with a baby in the car to call the police. The police, of course, weren't about to confront Biden's Secretary of Energy and instead decided there ain't no law against parking an ICE vehicle blocking everybody's access to a charging station so even asking them to move was too much trouble.
Ultimately despite her clever gas car hack, it took Granholm four days to cover a stretch of road a gas car does in nine and a half hours.
> I will just park a gas car to block off access to the charging station for plebians
Also what is the fucking point of using 1 electric car when the rest of the car convoy are all gas burners?
Nuclear is technically unsuitable for peaker plants of all things.
Morphic Tide
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Nuclear plants shift slowly and surplus capacity functions poorly in general, they're for base load.
Skallagrim
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Solution to the 'peak demands' problem for nuclear was already found by Dutch engineers:
> Build nucear power plant at the waterfront (lake, ocean, large river...), which is handy for cooling water anyway
> Dig deep reservoir-chasms into the bottom of the body of water next to the nuclear plant, and surround these by strong dikes
> Build hydropower turbines and pumps into the surrounding dikes
> When there is low energy demand, use excess energy of nuclear plant to pump water out of the reservoirs
> When there is peak demand, let water flood back into the reservoirs, activating the turbines & generating the extra energy you want
> Go back to pumping the water out when demand diminishes again and you have excess energy from the nuclear plant
> Repeat forever
> You now possess effective and immediate response capability for peak demand, by combining nuclear and hydropower
(This would actually work, thus allowing for a zero-emission energy policy, and it happily embraces nuclear -- so as you can imagine, the proposal was never adopted, even though every study into its feasibility was extremely positive in its conclusions.)
> Build nucear power plant at the waterfront (lake, ocean, large river...), which is handy for cooling water anyway
> Dig deep reservoir-chasms into the bottom of the body of water next to the nuclear plant, and surround these by strong dikes
> Build hydropower turbines and pumps into the surrounding dikes
> When there is low energy demand, use excess energy of nuclear plant to pump water out of the reservoirs
> When there is peak demand, let water flood back into the reservoirs, activating the turbines & generating the extra energy you want
> Go back to pumping the water out when demand diminishes again and you have excess energy from the nuclear plant
> Repeat forever
> You now possess effective and immediate response capability for peak demand, by combining nuclear and hydropower
(This would actually work, thus allowing for a zero-emission energy policy, and it happily embraces nuclear -- so as you can imagine, the proposal was never adopted, even though every study into its feasibility was extremely positive in its conclusions.)
Man-made climate change is happening.
It will cause disruptions, especially with agriculture.
It will cause economic problems.
What people should be asking is this: do we want the same idiots who bungled the Covid-19 crisis coming up with "solutions" to this? My answer is... NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Their "solutions" will not only fail to accomplish anything- sure, come up with a treaty which excludes China, Russia, and India- but will hammer the final nails in the coffins of our economies.
It's on us. I myself started using LED bulbs, not those hideous grey ones but those nice warm-tone ones. They alone save 165-220 watts at any given time. Imagine millions of people doing that. Fact is, we have the ability RIGHT NOW to get off petroleum, coal, nuclear (terrorist bait) and the like, but it is being suppressed.
It will cause disruptions, especially with agriculture.
It will cause economic problems.
What people should be asking is this: do we want the same idiots who bungled the Covid-19 crisis coming up with "solutions" to this? My answer is... NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Their "solutions" will not only fail to accomplish anything- sure, come up with a treaty which excludes China, Russia, and India- but will hammer the final nails in the coffins of our economies.
It's on us. I myself started using LED bulbs, not those hideous grey ones but those nice warm-tone ones. They alone save 165-220 watts at any given time. Imagine millions of people doing that. Fact is, we have the ability RIGHT NOW to get off petroleum, coal, nuclear (terrorist bait) and the like, but it is being suppressed.
Carrot of Truth
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Climate activists glue their hands on German airport runway; amputation possible
The glue used by climate change activists was a blend of concrete and epoxy resin which can result in their hands being permanently stuck with amputation remaining the only option.
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Sometimes a problem corrects itself.
mrttao
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It only takes 10 to 15 hours to bring a nuclear power plant from 0 power (cold shut down) to 100% power generated.
We have weather forecasts, we know ahead of time what the weather is going to be like tomorrow.
Excessive production can just be used with existing gravity storage facilities. Where pumps are used to push water uphill, which then powers a hydro turbine on the way down when the power is needed.
Pumped Storage Hydropower
Pumped storage hydropower (PSH) is a type of hydroelectric energy storage. It is a configuration of two water reservoirs at different elevations that can generate power as water moves down from one to the other (discharge), passing through a turbine.
I would also argue that completely shutting down your nuclear reactor is stupid. it should be running at lower power level instead. which cuts down the time to ratchet up/down. The only time you would be shutting it down is if you completely miscalculated and the pumped storage hydropower facilities are all completely full & you already shut down all the fossil fuel plants.
Yes. Meanwhile a peaker plant needs to do it in minutes. It's also not economically efficient to do it. See the problem?
The clever solution would be to overbuild nuclear, and then plug it into a chemical plant making hydrogen or other energy intensive fuel synthesis. Shut it down when the power is needed, and if the nuclear plant is making too much, turn it on, and then sell the fuel made with spare electricity.
mrttao
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This is not a nuclear specific technology, it is how all grid power storage is done.
But yes, that design was ideal and it is a shame they rejected it. instead germany now burns the lowest quality and most polluting form of coal there is. literally the worst fossil fuel on the planet.
Read the next line of the post you are quoting.
They only need to do it in minutes if the power consumption spike is a SURPRISE.
1. We have weather forecasts. We know days in advance when and how much power is needed.
2. You are completely ignoring the fact that nuclear power plants can and do store power into Pumped-Storage-Hydropower. Look at the ramp time for PSH not for nuclear
3. You are making a backwards semantics argument. Your logic is:
> Peaker plants are designed to "provide power during peak hours"
> Traditionally this was done via "plants that are off most of the time and turn on fast"
> Thus the textbook definition describes them "plants that are off most of the time and turn on fast to provide power at peak times"
> Thus this tech that can "provide power during peak hours" cannot actually "provide power during peak hours" because the textbook definition says peaker plant must turn on fast.
Put aside the textbook definition. Peaker plants are designed to provide power during peak hours. A natural gas plant that can turn on in minutes is one way to do it.
A nuclear power plant that is connected to a weather forecast + hydro storage facility is another way to do it.
Skallagrim
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Sure, but typical methods rely on pumping water uphill, and/or into a reservoir with a dam. The Netherlands are somewhat lacking when it comes to hills, and we have too much experience with dike/dam breaches (in a largely below-sea-level country) that we don not want to add to that risk.
Hence, the innovation: reverse the reservoir. Instead of pumping water in during low demand and letting it out during high demand, we'd do the opposite-- pump it out during low demand, let it back in during high demand. This way, if the dikes are ever breached, you don't flood a major population centre. (The Netherlands being small and densely populated, any serious flood will affect at least one major population centre.)
For this reason, I consider these kinds of "energy atolls", if you will, a better idea than the traditional dam-based reservoir. You remove insane risks such as the Three Gorges Dam. It's also easier to decentralise/multiply.
mrttao
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Oh, fair point. Yea doing it backwards is creative.