Bear Ribs
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Dafuq? "Only Temperate Rainforests, Mountains, and Sheltered Ocean?" How the heck unpleasable are you when it comes to access to nature?
'Climate Change' and the coming 'Climate Lockdown'
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Because I've been through Whittier like 10 times in my life, spent more time in that town than I'd like in a couple cases, and can tell you very few people there live there for 'the environment', rather than because they either live or work in the town or just like the acrology life in that building.
Those pictures you put up are during the brief blue sky periods and the town is socked in by fog or clouds most of the time, when it's not the winter blizzards dumping on the town.
Bear Ribs
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Ah, so it's Alaska weather you despise. Fair enough but how the heck is that a reasonable criticism of the building? The weather would be just as Alaskan if they had three hundred houses instead of one mega-apartment.
It's not just the weather, it's the isolation of Whittier from the rest of Alaska, as well as understanding the people who actually live there a little.
The building is an old military base installation, like the whole town except some of the new buildings near the water, and for those who chose to make Whittier home, I guess it works.
I'm just saying it takes a particular type to find that living arraignment desirable.
mrttao
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god this looks both depressing and decrepit.
Whittier, Alaska: One Building Houses A Whole Town - Unusual Places
If you're the ultimate homebody---Whittier, Alaska may be your dream destination. Whittier started out in the mid-1950's as a military outpost. In recent decades, civilians have begun to trickle into a former army barracks at the heart of the town called Begich Towers. Begich Towers is currently...unusualplaces.org
This is a '15 minute' city already in existence, and yeah, unless people really like LARPing as living in the bowels of Courscant, it's not for most humans.
the people shown are all looking morose, there is even a rusted out vehicle on the front yard. (boat for once instead of car)
I was in Alaska for some vacation a couple months ago. We went to Whittier in order to catch a cruise around Prince William Sound.
There is not much there aside from the port.
EDIT: that building is pretty old, but I have no idea how nice it is inside.
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Whittier is not a pretty town most of the time, it's a functioning fishing, cargo, ferry stop, and tourist port with no-to-little frills.
It takes a certain type to live there full time.
Ah, did you the 26 Glacier cruise, or one of the multi-day cruises that take off out of there occasionally?
And yeah, as I said, not much to the town besides the port and the building(s); there is/was a second tower like this, that was abandoned due to shrinking town population and lack of funds to maintain both, IIRC.
The 26 Glacier Tour
Yeah, that is pretty much the best sight seeing experience by boat in Alaska for the money, time, quality, and ease of access.
Or at least on a good day; sometimes the weather has other thoughts.
Acrologies can work, but have to be voluntary, and access in or out cannot be cut off easily, other wise we end up with shit going Vault-Tec/Judge Dredd bad pretty fast.
mrttao
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A big issue is that they want to force us into the cities with a PROMISE of one day it becoming an arcology via magic.
Instead of building an arcology and offering very cheap rent to people. And providing the whole thing works. (there is a good chance it will not function for various social and logistical reasons)
Mostly though, we can see from their own speeches in WEF, that they are not even trying to make some fantasy arcology. They are just coopting the idea to strip out human rights and make everyone in existing cities into wage slaves, and force people into said existing cities.
Instead of building an arcology and offering very cheap rent to people. And providing the whole thing works. (there is a good chance it will not function for various social and logistical reasons)
Mostly though, we can see from their own speeches in WEF, that they are not even trying to make some fantasy arcology. They are just coopting the idea to strip out human rights and make everyone in existing cities into wage slaves, and force people into said existing cities.
Terthna
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Setting aside the whole controversy surrounding the "15-minute city" concept; can we at least all agree that overly restrictive zoning laws are something that we can probably do better without? That you or I or anyone should be allowed to open a small business on their property, no matter where it is? Or that there should probably be more infrastructure built to accommodate pedestrians in places where there is none, even though it would make a lot of sense for some to be there?
mrttao
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yes. that is all agreeable
It reminds me of those carved, ancient, underground, or cliff-built cities where everything was in connected rooms and passages -- a whole city as a giant honeycomb.
... and then they delved too greedily and too deep?
Vetrom
war
Its almost as if some psychotic designers are taking Magnasanti and Koyaanisqatsi as blueprints, not warning signs.
Sergeant Foley
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Following this very intriguing discussion mega-thread.Prepare for the Coming "Climate Lockdowns"
>a professor at the Economics of Innovation and Public Value Center at University College London
Makes sense, watermelonry is strong in UK and London in particular.
yeah....this is the sort of bullshit that leads to things like the french revolution.