'Climate Change' and the coming 'Climate Lockdown'

DarthOne

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Prepare for the Coming "Climate Lockdowns"

Do you think it can't get much worse than COVID-19 lockdowns?

Think again.

An establishment-connected lefty professor says that in “the near future, the world may need to resort to lockdowns again — this time to tackle a climate emergency.”

“Under a ‘climate lockdown,’ governments would limit private-vehicle use, ban consumption of red meat, and impose extreme energy-saving measures, while fossil-fuel companies would have to stop drilling,” writes Mariana Mazzucato, a professor at the Economics of Innovation and Public Value Center at University College London, in a paper titled “Avoiding a Climate Lockdown.”

The title of her paper is very misleading. She believes climate lockdowns will be necessary unless we "overhaul our economic structures and do capitalism differently."

Three obstacles to overhaul must be removed, she says, "business that is shareholder-driven instead of stakeholder-driven, finance that is used in inadequate and inappropriate ways, and government that is based on outdated economic thinking and faulty assumptions." She is really talking about fascist economics, where governments set the policies of "private" sector firms:
[G]overnment assistance to business must be less about subsidies, guarantees, and bailouts, and more about building partnerships. This means attaching strict conditions to any corporate bailouts to ensure that taxpayer money is put to productive use and generates long-term public value, not short-term private profits...Because markets will not lead a green revolution on their own, government policy must steer them in that direction. This will require an entrepreneurial state that innovates, takes risks, and invests alongside the private sector.

From The New York Times:
Her message has appealed to an array of American politicians. Senator Elizabeth Warren, Democrat of Massachusetts...has incorporated Dr. Mazzucato’s thinking into several policy rollouts, including one that would use “federal R & D to create domestic jobs and sustainable investments in the future” and another that would authorize the government to receive a return on its investments in the pharmaceutical industry. Dr. Mazzucato has also consulted with Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Democrat of New York, and her team on the ways a more active industrial policy might catalyze a Green New Deal...
Even Republicans have found something to like. In May[2019], Senator Marco Rubio of Florida credited Dr. Mazzucato’s work several times in “American Investment in the 21st Century,” his proposal to jump-start economic growth. “We need to build an economy that can see past the pressure to understand value-creation in narrow and short-run financial terms,” he wrote in the introduction, “and instead envision a future worth investing in for the long-term.”..
[A] charismatic figure in a contentious field that does not generate many stars — she was recently profiled in Wired magazine’s United Kingdom edition...Her ideas...are finding a receptive audience around the world. In the United Kingdom, Dr. Mazzucato’s work has influenced Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the Labour Party, and Theresa May, a former Prime Minister, and she has counseled the Scottish leader Nicola Sturgeon on designing and putting in place a national investment bank. She also advises government entities in Germany, South Africa and elsewhere. “In getting my hands dirty,” she said, “I learn and I bring it back to the theory...
he pointed at an announcement on her laptop. She had been nominated for the first Not the Nobel Prize, a commendation intended to promote “fresh economic thinking.” “Governments have woken up to the fact the mainstream way of thinking isn’t helping them,” she said, explaining her appeal to politicians and policymakers. A few days later, she won.
The world is full of economists with very bad ideas but Mazzucato's central planning ideas are among the worst. She is filled with ideas that would result in the harassment of individuals and independent businesses. Combine this with the following she is garnering and it makes her extremely dangerous.

Enjoy your hamburgers while you can.



-RW
 

Zachowon

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Hahahahahaha.
They do know that there are to many people who eat meat to give up red meat...
And I'm in the military, we run our vehicles every damn day, emissions be damned.

Someone needs to tell them to look at China and India before coming to the US
 

Rocinante

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Those CNN leaks where they caught the guy saying they overplayed and pushed propaganda over covid said they were going to do it over climate change next.

And here we are.

Most mainstream media will be pushing this before too long. Give it a year or two, if that.

Lots of people will kbe scared into going along just like with covid shutdowns. they'll run daily deaths tickers and shit like that.

I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it will Absolutely be a big future political battle.
 

LordsFire

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Yeah, I can absolutely see the left trying this.

The thing is, there is a fundamental difference between a covid lockdown and an 'environmental' lockdown.

Half of the country is already entrenched in opposing the climate change crap. Covid struck out of the blue, and a huge part of why governments got away with what they did, is because people were confused and afraid, uncertain of how to handle things. With environmental alarmism?

That shit got old in the eighties. Attempts to lock down will die stillborn deaths, through simple mass-refusal to obey. We already know that they're telling lies on this issue.
 

Marduk

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If the left tries even half this stuff, its going to make France's Yellow Vests look like just a rehearsal. Remember, that one was just over a gasoline tax hike with a "green" push behind it.
Meanwhile, as this shows, watermelons have plenty more of ideas for how to absolutely piss off the average citizen.
 

Cherico

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If the left tries even half this stuff, its going to make France's Yellow Vests look like just a rehearsal. Remember, that one was just over a gasoline tax hike with a "green" push behind it.
Meanwhile, as this shows, watermelons have plenty more of ideas for how to absolutely piss off the average citizen.

Like I said in 8-12 years we will have a much much bigger and angier populist uprising, this will be a part of it.
 

DarthOne

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If the left tries even half this stuff, its going to make France's Yellow Vests look like just a rehearsal. Remember, that one was just over a gasoline tax hike with a "green" push behind it.
Meanwhile, as this shows, watermelons have plenty more of ideas for how to absolutely piss off the average citizen.
Let’s not assume that they’ll jump right into it all at once. They could go for a frog boil.

Though the fact that Beijing Biden (or his handlers) have set some pretty high standards already does make that seem unlikely. That said, they can always back down and change direction.
 
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Marduk

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Let’s not assume that they’ll jump right into it all at once. They could go for a frog boil.

Though the fact that Beijing Biden (or his handlers) have set some pretty high standards already does make that seem unlikely. They can always back down and change direction.
The deception around the motives and impacts is what keeps the backlash low so far - Yellow Vests are one case when it was pretty obviously a "green" policy hitting everyone just because.
But this stuff is getting harder to hide as more publicity around it happens, and on the other side, the watermelons are getting bolder, demanding greater and more conspicious actions than ever. The time when frog boil tactics are even possible is rapidly running out.
 

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Oh, climate lockdowns? I can see the Germans being totally on board with that, especially with regards to a likely Green party participation in the next government as an equal or even major partner.
I'm starting to think we should have just let the USSR keep the whole of Germany the way they kept Kaliningrad.

Germans seem happier taking commie dictates and listening to rad greens than standing up against thier insanity.
 

Culsu

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I'm starting to think we should have just let the USSR keep the whole of Germany the way they kept Kaliningrad.

Germans seem happier taking commie dictates and listening to rad greens than standing up against thier insanity.
Not really. The funny thing is: the former East is way more based and rightwing than the West.
I suspect that’s where some post-WW2 policies are working against the West when it comes to Germany.
It's a mix of cultural marxism at play and the (somewhat necessary) emasculization of Germany in the wake of WW2.
 

BlackDragon98

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Not really. The funny thing is: the former East is way more based and rightwing than the West.
it's the same in every former Soviet state in Eastern Europe.
All are based and rightwing as hell.
Even Russia is pretty based and rightwing TBH.

It's a mix of cultural marxism at play and the (somewhat necessary) emasculization of Germany in the wake of WW2.
Germany got completely emasculization after WW2 to the point that nobody even waves the Germany flag around.
Guess Hitler was right about something.
"Germany will either be a world power or will not be at all."
-Mein Kampf, by Adolf Hitler (1925)
 

BlackDragon98

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This whole climate lockdown thing sound like something annoying Greta the Blamer would do.

Like, all she did was go on the world stage, say a bunch of woke shit and blame the last generation for the problems of today.

Massive virtue signaller exploited by the green left as youth propaganda.

Problem is, it sure as hell is working. I remember many of my classmates walking out (skipping school) during her "climate walkout". Bunch of fooking virtue signalling idiots with a brain in their heads.
 

Wargamer08

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This whole climate lockdown thing sound like something annoying Greta the Blamer would do.

Like, all she did was go on the world stage, say a bunch of woke shit and blame the last generation for the problems of today.

Massive virtue signaller exploited by the green left as youth propaganda.

Problem is, it sure as hell is working. I remember many of my classmates walking out (skipping school) during her "climate walkout". Bunch of fooking virtue signalling idiots with a brain in their heads.
Ah yes, children skipping school when given any excuse it totally a sign of them buying into the green agenda.
 

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