'Climate Change' and the coming 'Climate Lockdown'

Culsu

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Yeah, well, we'll see how long that particular green trend lasts. Something tells me that after the first few power outages, brownouts, job loss, and rising electrical bills it will go away really fast.

At least I hope so.
Germany has about the highest energy prices in Europe, if not the world. I pay twice the amount for electricity than I did ten years ago. And the green trend has only gotten worse.
 

What's the sitch?

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Honestly Germany should have been dissolved and its people scattered to the four winds. Not because I wish them ill or what not, but because they are still self flagellating and people that had nothing to do with it are still suffering. At least if they had restarted elsewhere under another national identity they could have moved on, instead the specter of WW2 will forever hang on them.(Partially due to their own flagellating)

Not unlike how slavery is shackled to American whites to a lesser degree(despite it being even further removed and less brutal than Islamic slavery, which is seemingly never brought up)(also slavery existed throughout the Americas in general).

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But yeah the eventual plan is that people will be literal serfs tied to the land and things like travel will exist only for the elites. You will own nothing and be happy.
 
Money rather than laws are the key.

Bassoe

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Yeah, I can absolutely see the left trying this.

The thing is, there is a fundamental difference between a covid lockdown and an 'environmental' lockdown.

Half of the country is already entrenched in opposing the climate change crap. Covid struck out of the blue, and a huge part of why governments got away with what they did, is because people were confused and afraid, uncertain of how to handle things. With environmental alarmism?

That shit got old in the eighties. Attempts to lock down will die stillborn deaths, through simple mass-refusal to obey. We already know that they're telling lies on this issue.
Money rather than laws are the key. Instead of banning things, just make them too expensive for anyone outside of the billionaire elite to afford them. The end result is the same, only the elites don't have to break or write loopholes into their own laws and it's harder for the plebeians to direct the blame for their deteriorating quality of life.
The Myths of Green Energy by Charles Hugh Smith said:
Anatole France said:
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread.
 

Bacle

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More fear-mongering from "scientists."

It could easily be true, though not for alarmist reasons, more due to albedo and the physics of light/solar radiation.

The poles, particularly the Arctic, are more susceptible to slight changes in thier environment than most other places, due the rather extreme swings the normally see from winter to summer.

Decreased albedo from decreased icepack means less sunlight is reflected by the Arctic ice and more sunlight absorbed by Arctic waters. This can lead to a feedback cycle of less ice and more open water during winter, which increases Arctic temps year round.
 

Captain X

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Seeing what I have in regard to the science, I'm not convinced humans have anywhere near the impact that alarmists claim, nor am I convinced that carbon dioxide is the problem they make it out to be. This is even without how everything is made to serve an authoritarian globalist agenda.
 

Bacle

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Seeing what I have in regard to the science, I'm not convinced humans have anywhere near the impact that alarmists claim, nor am I convinced that carbon dioxide is the problem they make it out to be. This is even without how everything is made to serve an authoritarian globalist agenda.
CO2 is not the main problem, at least not anymore. We have a lot of ways to pull CO2 from the atmo, it's just a matter of efficiency and power usage.

It's the methane that gets into the atmo that is the real problem; traps way more heat than CO2 and is not something plants or animals can pull out of the atmo in their normal lives, it is not easy to pull it out like with CO2.
 

Marduk

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CO2 is not the main problem, at least not anymore. We have a lot of ways to pull CO2 from the atmo, it's just a matter of efficiency and power usage.

It's the methane that gets into the atmo that is the real problem; traps way more heat than CO2 and is not something plants or animals can pull out of the atmo in their normal lives, it is not easy to pull it out like with CO2.
Methane is not a long term problem though, most of it reacts with ozone within about 10 years.
 

Bacle

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Damn those cows!!!!

:eek: 😂
Cows, landfills, trapped organic waste in now unfrozen permafrost, and occasional seabed methane releases.

Its a much harder issue to handle than CO2.

At least with cows they've found changing thier diet to have a bunch of dried seaweed in it can cut methane in thier farts significantly.
 

Bacle

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Methane is not a long term problem though, most of it reacts with ozone within about 10 years.
The methane reaction in atmo is too slow to keep up with the increasing amounts dumped into it.

Easier to try to reduce how much methane ends up in atmo.
 

Marduk

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The methane reaction in atmo is too slow to keep up with the increasing amounts dumped into it.

Easier to try to reduce how much methane ends up in atmo.
Even if it somehow slows down, which i'm not convinced of, that would still be an order of magnitude faster than CO2.
 

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