Hey, I wonder how many of them are like "WTF was I thinking?" No...that would take intellectual honesty. Forget I asked that.
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Hey, I wonder how many of them are like "WTF was I thinking?" No...that would take intellectual honesty. Forget I asked that.
Normies and independents are hopefully swinging to the "Biden is incompetent" camp. The Democrats are seeing diminishing returns anyway. Why do you think they are trying to take control of all elections with HR-1 and other such measures? So they can cheat their way to a one party state.
Trying to hold onto power at all costs normally ends much worse then losing an election and retooling for a couple years.
sillygoose
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Normally, but the US has gotten to the point that the global order is breaking down thanks to the rise of China and the world no longer trusts us. The globalists that set US policy are freaking out about losing their power and influence, so they think they have to take more direct control to prevent their project from collapsing and the world reverting to a true multi-polar system like before WW1. Assuming they're being honest they claim to be fearful of a return to the era of world wars and inability to act when things like climate change are going to get increasingly bad (the Pentagon has said water wars are our future), which would be worse than letting nature take its course politically in the US.
Airedale260
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Given that his poll numbers were dropping even before the crisis unfolded, I'd say yes.
Don't get me wrong, HR 1 is an absolute disaster and so is HR 4. But I'd also note that applies to Trump after December and the electoral vote. And that's why I'm pissed off at the whole circular firing squad he's trying to do in 2022, because that would be the one thing that could help the Democrats hold onto their majority even in the wake of all this.
Doomsought
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Malthus is always wrong.
Tiamat
I've seen the future...
These are the same idiots who danced and celebrated, or would have with the election of their “messiah” Obama back in 2008 and 2012. So no surprise. Triumph of the Will, anyone?
And while that may sound extreme, show me one instance, in the last century or two anyway, how turning a political leader regardless of the ideology into an object of worship typically worked out.
Agustus ceasar.
In the last century or two, Ataturk is probally the nicest and even he had to do some serious shit to turn the disaster that was the rump of the former ottoman empire into a functional secular country.
Airedale260
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Yeah, humans are inordinately adaptive. On the other hand, the Pentagon kind of has to go with what the politicians say.
George Washington says hi. Also that he disapproves of such nonsense.
Seriously. It takes a LOT of character to do that and not give in to temptation. Very few people are able to do that because it requires an ego to be a leader but also an inordinate amount of self control and humility.
sillygoose
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Oh look another person who doesn't know history.
Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Malthus was only incorrect about the role technology has been able to play in delaying the problem, but remember history is not at an end and just because we haven't hit the limit yet doesn't mean it won't eventually be reached.
LordsFire
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Oh look another person who doesn't know history.
Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed - Wikipedia
Malthus was only incorrect about the role technology has been able to play in delaying the problem, but remember history is not at an end and just because we haven't hit the limit yet doesn't mean it won't eventually be reached.
Malthus was incorrect that growth of population would trap lower social classes in perpetual material misery, and every prognosticator after him who has predicted societal collapse because of overpopulation has also been wrong.
That civilizations have failed for other reasons does not make Malthus right.
That the CIA, not the Defense Department or the 'diplomats' at State, was selected to go negotiate with the Taliban. That says all you need to know about what the Taliban is and where they get their support.
...probably so they can also arrange the opium trade. $5 says 10% goes to them.
...probably so they can also arrange the opium trade. $5 says 10% goes to them.
The British Parliament held President Biden in contempt over Afghanistan and our media hasn't said a word about it 🤔
Yeah, so Great Britain has pretty much been America's closest ally in the last 100 years of world history, despite our salty breakup in 1776.
notthebee.com
Oh look another person who doesn't know history.
Collapse: How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed - Wikipedia
Malthus was only incorrect about the role technology has been able to play in delaying the problem, but remember history is not at an end and just because we haven't hit the limit yet doesn't mean it won't eventually be reached.
Malthus's time didn't have a space program.
'Burn the land, boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me.' and 'So Say We All' are humanities likely futures, if Yellowstone or an asteroid doesn't wipe us out first.
Indeed.Otherwise,cyvilisation should cease to exist long ago.But - maybe we manage it!
sillygoose
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The global lower classes have been trapped in perpetual material misery. Slavery exists in all but name in many places around the world. Just because you don't see it in your backyard doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
As to society collapse due to overpopulation, did you not pay attention to the Syrian civil war and its root cause in water shortages or the Arab Spring in general? Destruction of the environment in South America and Africa are pretty catastrophic and populations are only sustained thanks to imports from the developed world:
The Effects of Desertification in Africa - The Borgen Project
One ambitious initiative created to reduce desertification in Africa is the Great Green Wall. Once completed, the Great Green Wall will be the largest
borgenproject.org
The World’s Water Crisis Explained on World Water Day
Many more cities than Cape Town face an uncertain future over water. But there are emerging solutions.
www.nationalgeographic.com
Just because the US media doesn't talk about it doesn't mean it isn't happening.
Pretty sure the whole thing in the Middle East came down to Obama making a mess of things. The rest certainly didn’t help but they’re overhyped.The global lower classes have been trapped in perpetual material misery. Slavery exists in all but name in many places around the world. Just because you don't see it in your backyard doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
As to society collapse due to overpopulation, did you not pay attention to the Syrian civil war and its root cause in water shortages or the Arab Spring in general? Destruction of the environment in South America and Africa are pretty catastrophic and populations are only sustained thanks to imports from the developed world:
The Effects of Desertification in Africa - The Borgen Project
One ambitious initiative created to reduce desertification in Africa is the Great Green Wall. Once completed, the Great Green Wall will be the largest
Maybe there is a technological solution to stave things off even more, but nothing is guaranteed.The World’s Water Crisis Explained on World Water Day
Many more cities than Cape Town face an uncertain future over water. But there are emerging solutions.
Just because the US media doesn't talk about it doesn't mean it isn't happening.
sillygoose
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I think you mean W. Bush.