United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

[Zachowon]

See, I do not agree that they will not get away with it again.

I expect them to do it again, and get away with it again.

I hope I'm wrong, but I cannot and will not operate on the assumption that this was a 'one time thing' they won't be able to pull off in the future.

We will be in a war with China and Russia if they win again.
So either way the world ends

 

[Captain X]

Yes, the left is attempting to pass HR 1, a bill that would do a lot of damage if passed into law, even after the SC rips apart all the bits of it that are flatly illegal. And by "attempting" to pass it, I mean they're trying to badger a few members of thier own party into passing it, and failing, and also attempting to convince those same members to get rid of the filibuster so that if they actually scrap up the votes for HR 1, they can prevent the Republicans from blocking it, and their attempt do that is failing even more than their effort to round up votes for HR1, a bill that, I remind you, will have major chucks ripping out of it by the SC.

Seeing how the SC reacted to the issue of election fraud, and the way they've been punting gun rights cases puts that into doubt. Also, you are glossing over the fact that HR 1 passed the House very easily. That is significant.

 

[Zachowon]

Seeing how the SC reacted to the issue of election fraud, and the way they've been punting gun rights cases puts that into doubt. Also, you are glossing over the fact that HR 1 passed the House very easily. That is significant.

Passing the house doesn't mean much when the Republicans are outnumbered.
In the Senate they have to get 60 out if 100 to say yes.

 

[Battlegrinder]

The whole election fraud thing makes this a legitimate concern. I know you wish to pretend it didn't happen, but one need only look at how Democrats act concerning it, and it seems they certainly believe the election was fraudulent as well. If not, they would be all for an open and transparent election audit, because as far as they know it would show that the results were exactly what they were, and would serve to both legitimize them and embarrass their political enemies who claim the election was fraudulent. Yet they seek to be anything but transparent, and are doing everything they can to either stop any attempts at auditing, or to paint them as illegitimate themselves.

That is one possible interpretation of thier actions, yes. However, would you agree that knee-jerk opposition to anything tbe the Republicans do, regardless of the merits, is also a possibility (I'll again point to thier completely retarded effort to Filibuster Gorsuch as an example of this action).

 

[Bacle]

We will be in a war with China and Russia if they win again.
So either way the world ends

Why would the Dems and Uniparty go to war with China if they 'win' again?

Unless of course our civie leaders aren't actually the power that decides US policy, and the war has already been 'decided' to have happen by the people behind the curtain.

 

[Zachowon]

Why would the Dems and Uniparty go to war with China if they 'win' again?

Unless of course our civie leaders aren't actually the power that decides US policy, and the war has already been 'decided' to have happen by the people behind the curtain.

Because we are going to be shown as weak and our enemies are currently shitting themselves because of internal issues.

Then boom, invasion of Taiwan. The military will step in and everything.

 

[Bacle]

Because we are going to be shown as weak and our enemies are currently shitting themselves because of internal issues.

Then boom, invasion of Taiwan. The military will step in and everything.

And what if the US public isn't interested in supporting Taiwan at the cost of our own blood and treasure, despite the agreement with have with them?

Or are you saying the military would take matters into its own hands at that point, regardless of domestic sentiments and feelings.

Because you are taking for granted that the US public would support fighting China over Taiwan.

 

[Captain X]

Passing the house doesn't mean much when the Republicans are outnumbered.
In the Senate they have to get 60 out if 100 to say yes.

It does in that so many Democrats are just cool with going right along with it.

 

[Terthna]

That is one possible interpretation of thier actions, yes. However, would you agree that knee-jerk opposition to anything tbe the Republicans do, regardless of the merits, is also a possibility (I'll again point to thier completely retarded effort to Filibuster Gorsuch as an example of this action).

Considering all the physical evidence of fraud floating around; including video recordings, government documents, and eye-witness testimonies? Anyone who believes it to just be a jerk reaction on the part of the Democrats is delusional.

 

[Megadeath]

Considering all the physical evidence of fraud floating around; including video recordings, government documents, and eye-witness testimonies? Anyone who believes it to just be a jerk reaction on the part of the Democrats is delusional.

Considering that all that "evidence" has been repeatedly explained, even in court and under Trump appointed judges, anyone who believes that they can actually make a case for fraud is delusional. Further, anyone who truly believes that but does nothing more than run their mouth preaching to the online choir in their favourite echo chamber is clearly a coward, a fool, or both. If the evidence is truly so plentiful and obvious, there's nothing preventing you from mounting a legal case yourself. What with it being so gratuitous and obvious I imagine you could even manage without a lawyer.

 

[Rocinante]

Considering that all that "evidence" has been repeatedly explained, even in court and under Trump appointed judges, anyone who believes that they can actually make a case for fraud is delusional. Further, anyone who truly believes that but does nothing more than run their mouth preaching to the online choir in their favourite echo chamber is clearly a coward, a fool, or both. If the evidence is truly so plentiful and obvious, there's nothing preventing you from mounting a legal case yourself. What with it being so gratuitous and obvious I imagine you could even manage without a lawyer.

Well A couple million of them did show at the capitol on January 6, and many more have donated money, so I'd say the reaction is more than "preaching to the online choir in their favourite echo chamber"

 

[Zachowon]

And what if the US public isn't interested in supporting Taiwan at the cost of our own blood and treasure, despite the agreement with have with them?

Or are you saying the military would take matters into its own hands at that point, regardless of domestic sentiments and feelings.

Because you are taking for granted that the US public would support fighting China over Taiwan.

Because it would cause an economic issue and would basically tell our allies "We wont do shit to help" and....it would hurt trade and a lot of shit.
Plus China has a growing hatred towards it.

It does in that so many Democrats are just cool with going right along with it.

That doesn't matter

 

[Megadeath]

Well A couple million of them did show at the capitol on January 6, and many more have donated money, so I'd say the reaction is more than "preaching to the online choir in their favourite echo chamber"

The capitol riot was tens of thousands maybe one or two hundred thousand people being idiots. It certainly wasn't millions, and it was neither useful nor sensible. It seems the large majority of opportunities to donate are just charlatans. I wonder how many people donated to Sidney Powell before she admitted she made it all up? AFAIK, there are currently no active cases alleging fraud?

 

[Husky_Khan]

Looks like Biden's Department of Health & Human Services is starting the trend to ban the term "Mothers" and replace it with the term "Birthing Peoples."

Check out this cringey exchange between Oklahoma Republican Senator James Lankford and Biden HHS Secretary Xavier Becerra when asked about the change in language.



Is Secretary Becerra laughing because he's smug, or because he's so f'ing lost in how to try and answer a question without using the term 'Mother' when defining 'Birthing People?'

Let's keep this bullshit going. It's like deadnaming... but actually matters.



Pregnant "People"

There were terms to use for those kind of "people" once... can't quite recall it. 🤔

 

[strunkenwhite]

And what if the US public isn't interested in supporting Taiwan at the cost of our own blood and treasure, despite the agreement with have with them?

Or are you saying the military would take matters into its own hands at that point, regardless of domestic sentiments and feelings.

Because you are taking for granted that the US public would support fighting China over Taiwan.

Whether or not the public is that willing to go to bat for Taiwan, it's clear that the Washington establishment is, on both sides. It's not that hard for me to imagine whoever's in charge when the ball goes up deciding to jump in, simply betting that they can bring the public on board. And that's with me NOT buying the whole Uniparty thing you're selling. I can't imagine how you, a firm believer in it, think they couldn't pull that off in active collusion with each other.

If the evidence is truly so plentiful and obvious, there's nothing preventing you from mounting a legal case yourself. What with it being so gratuitous and obvious I imagine you could even manage without a lawyer.

Please stop; beating this particular drum only undermines your case IMO.

 

[Megadeath]

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Please stop; beating this particular drum only undermines your case IMO.

You're probably not wrong, but I'm not just pounding the table for effect. I truly don't understand how people can be so adamant in their belief, so certain of their evidence, and so certain of the harm, yet be so apathetic in their actions.

Also, I'm hopeful that I might force someone to re-evaluate the validity and significance of the "evidence" of cheating in the election, or at least get someone to debate such.

 

[Terthna]

You're probably not wrong, but I'm not just pounding the table for effect. I truly don't understand how people can be so adamant in their belief, so certain of their evidence, and so certain of the harm, yet be so apathetic in their actions.

Also, I'm hopeful that I might force someone to re-evaluate the validity and significance of the "evidence" of cheating in the election, or at least get someone to debate such.

So your argument is that those who don't believe in the system should try to fix the system using the system?

"Hello Tech Support? My computer caught fire and exploded; what do I do?"

"Have you tried turning the computer off and on again?"

"My. Computer. Exploded."

"Sir; I can't help you if you're not willing to follow proper procedure."

 

[Megadeath]

So your argument is that those who don't believe in the system should try to fix the system using the system?

"Hello Tech Support? My computer caught fire and exploded; what do I do?"

"Have you tried turning the computer off and on again?"

"My. Computer. Exploded."

"Sir; I can't help you if you're not willing to follow proper procedure."

If you truly believe that it's irreparable, and that literally the entire judiciary and executive are hopelessly corrupt, both controlled by nefarious individuals or groups willing to pursue extra legal avenues to advance their agenda and silence dissent, you'd have to be a complete moron to post here at all and doubly so to discuss the evidence of their wrong doing. Hell, I'd go so far as to say anyone who believes that and isn't making active plans to leave the country ASAP is an idiot. I'm sure there's a quote I heard somewhere, to the effect that if you don't like it you're free to leave.

I mean, look at your own analogy. If your computer bursts into flames do you sit around whining to your colleagues while waiting on hold to tech support, or do you immediately distance yourself from it and get to work on a different computer?

 

[Free-Stater 101]

If you truly believe that it's irreparable, and that literally the entire judiciary and executive are hopelessly corrupt, both controlled by nefarious individuals or groups willing to pursue extra legal avenues to advance their agenda and silence dissent, you'd have to be a complete moron to post here at all and doubly so to discuss the evidence of their wrong doing. Hell, I'd go so far as to say anyone who believes that and isn't making active plans to leave the country ASAP is an idiot. I'm sure there's a quote I heard somewhere, to the effect that if you don't like it you're free to leave.

I mean, look at your own analogy. If your computer bursts into flames do you sit around whining to your colleagues while waiting on hold to tech support, or do you immediately distance yourself from it and get to work on a different computer?

A nation isn't something that can be ditched and replaced easily like a computer. And even then, where are you suggesting conservative's who genuinely believe in election fraud go? Many countries are worse off politically than the U.S. in their eyes.

When Trump was elected and liberals shrieked about the incoming dictatorship and threatened immigration to Canada there was a reason that it didn't ultimately play out.

 

[Captain X]

Ever notice none of those virtue-signalling assholes ever threaten to go to Mexico? Racists.