Bacle thinks because China will be invading our government will turn a blind eye
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I think China effectively owns DC, Hollywood, and Wall Street, due to how much influence they have amassed.
The made John fucking Cena apologize for calling Taiwan a nation, and get Disney to bow to thier desires when it comes to films.
There is ample evidence for much of the US society being in Beijing's pocket, or beholden to people that are, and I do not see a domestic atmosphere among our elite and upper crust that is in favor of resisting China's attempts on Taiwan, regardless of any defense pacts.
When the Government is telling allies fuck you, we don't need tour shit.
There goes Trade. There goes alliances.
Australia would be pissed.
I am almost certain they would rather fight China then lose all of our allies in the Pacific.
Why would the military prepare for it if the government won't do shit?
The government has plans for if the Girl Scout try to take over the US; never going to happen, yet someone still gamed it out.
I'm not happy with the loss of trust in our gov with regards to this, but before now the CCP didn't have an agent in the Oval Office, or could make the Mouse bow to them.
Our allies may be pissed, however I want to point out that to the person on the street, and to the people who are in Beijing's pocket already, risking war with China over Taiwan may not seem worth it. Not with the risk of nuclear escalation and MAD a very real possibility if we go to war with China over Taiwan.
I do not think many Americans are willing to risk our homeland and civie population for the sake of Taiwan, regardless of the consequences of breaking our defense pact.
But prices in a lot of goods would I crease drastically.
Our allies would probably if mad enough prevent shipping to us (may happen).
The chip shortage we currently have? Would be even higher and at an even more inflated price....
COVID has already made a large population of the US hate china..
Add in the fact that YouTube and other sites will be full of Taiwan and stand with Taiwan stuff.
It would be hard not for people to side woth Taiwan and call for fighting the Chinese off
None of that is as frightening as the possibility of your town disappearing under a mushroom cloud.
I think many people in the US are sympathetic to Taiwan; I don't think many people are willing to risk their neighborhood going up in nuclear fire for Taiwan.
Don't forget the monetary angle.
Because if China attacks Taiwan causing a war, that means the US can negate every bit of debt they owe China.
...fuck, good point.
That means there's a profit motive to going to war with China, even if I doubt the those profits will matter after nuclear escalation occurs.
But merchant bankers and the like mostly just care about the next quarter's earnings, not the survival of our nation.
You are qn idiot if you think China will nuke the US...
Ever notice none of those virtue-signalling assholes ever threaten to go to Mexico? Racists.
if you speak spanish it might actually be a good idea to move to mexico.
Mexican labor is now cheaper and more skilled then chinese labor, China's population is greying before it becomes rich and the CCP is locking down all the things because they know their economy is going to implode. All of those factories that made cheap stuff have to go somewhere and Nafta's locked down.
Mexico has a real chance of becoming a developed nation with in our life times if you have the skills you can get on the ground floor of that boom.
Airedale260
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The moment China threatens to launch on us is the moment the end of the world becomes inevitable. There is a reason that states don’t engage in nuclear blackmail.
boomghost
I trust you know where the launch button is?
except mexico has the major issue of the Cartels and the ridiculous power they have over there, Mexico is much more dangerous than the United States to live in, and corruption is much more common
Yes but if your willing to invest and have the cash and your smart you can get very wealthy.
Mexico has solid fundamentals.
Airedale260
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Certainly they're much less likely to be giant dicks to the rest of the world. As it is, the cartels generally try to avoid doing things that can provoke a direct response from the U.S. That's why the tourist and resort areas are generally okay (aside from the usual dangers in such areas).
I for one have no problem moving our supply chains much closer. And a prosperous Mexico is a good thing for the U.S., too.
gral
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The biggest problem I see with Mexico right now is that is ruled by a socialist president, an ominous portent for the future.
He only gets one term, which will end soon and he doesnt have the numbers to change the consitution, and he also seems to lean more heavily on the populist side of things hence why he was able to make a pretty decent trade deals with trump.
Over all a mixed bag, mexico could do better but they have done a lot worse.
Terthna
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As long as the CPP's grip on power in China remain secure, I can't see them launching nukes at anyone. If they start to lose that though, all bets are off I think. In any event, Bacle isn't the only who who thinks the American government won't try to defend Taiwan; I think your mistake is in assuming that our alliances are still based on mutual defense. That hasn't been the case for a long time; nowadays they exist almost solely for reasons of profit, and almost everyone sees China as a major source of it.
No government, bar China's direct enemies, is going to condemn America for refusing to stand in China's path towards conquest; not when they're all salivating at the thought of the CCP coming into their countries with new investment opportunities.
Terthna
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Well yeah, but how much money does the establishment elites make off of those guys? Barely a fraction of what they do off of China, I reckon; and that makes them dead weight, as far as they're concerned.
Uh...
Ot is an astounding amount actually. Korea Taiwan and Japan are all major. Vietnam also.
There are plenty more.