United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

Cherico

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Went to community college back in 2011. Meant to go onto a ‘real college’ later but that didn’t happen for various reasons.

Considering that’s about when the woke nonsense started really taking off, I think I dodged a bullet there.

I went to community college got two degrees and then worked in academia for awhile you didn't dodge a bullet you dodges a machine gun sweep.
 

DarthOne

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I went to community college got two degrees and then worked in academia for awhile you didn't dodge a bullet you dodges a machine gun sweep.

That bad huh? Really glad I didn’t go then. Especially given how I played with the idea of going into teaching or something due to my love of history. Even then, back when I was much less of a Traditionalist, I wouldn’t be able to stand the nonsense that’s being put out these days.
 

mrttao

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That bad huh? Really glad I didn’t go then. Especially given how I played with the idea of going into teaching or something due to my love of history. Even then, back when I was much less of a Traditionalist, I wouldn’t be able to stand the nonsense that’s being put out these days.
Also the debt. don't forget all the debt.
 

Jormungandr

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Debt is highly variable, a lot of it is avoidable if you choose to go to a state schools near your parents and commute to campus...
Useless bits of paper still cost people extraordinary amounts, though. It's horrifying that people are in debt for $30,000 on average (and that's not including compounding interest on their loans) for a degree that's pretty much deemed worthless or not as important as it was a few decades ago.

Employers have openly stated that they prefer people without degrees and instead portfolios (or nothing at all) because they don't have to make new employees "unlearn" everything from college). People who are a "clean slate" are preferred because they can be taught in-house.

For added hilarity and as a side tangent, company directors have said they're now discriminating against who they're hiring: People with pronouns in their resumes? Bin. Women because of MeToo and the current feminist epidemic? Bin (as they're not worth the potential headaches of false claims, women forming cliques, et cetera). It's illegal to outright do this, but I don't blame them.

Also, on a personal note, I'm so, so fucking glad I was never able to go to university because of my shit health: Compared to most people in my age group, I only owe about £1,400 in debt total. I'm a free bird in comparison to others in my age range, and I'm thankful for that. :D
 
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Scooby Doo

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I (Single, no dependents) just had to pay 609 dollars to the IRS because apparently I didn't pay them enough taxes even though they were already taking taxes from my income check
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mrttao

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Useless bits of paper still cost people extraordinary amounts, though. It's horrifying that people are in debt for $30,000 on average (and that's not including compounding interest on their loans) for a degree that's pretty much deemed worthless or not as important as it was a few decades ago.
37k is average debt in 2024. some can go way higher
and 30% of adults in USA have college debt
 

Rocinante

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Useless bits of paper still cost people extraordinary amounts, though. It's horrifying that people are in debt for $30,000 on average (and that's not including compounding interest on their loans) for a degree that's pretty much deemed worthless or not as important as it was a few decades ago.

Employers have openly stated that they prefer people without degrees and instead portfolios (or nothing at all) because they don't have to make new employees "unlearn" everything from college). People who are a "clean slate" are preferred because they can be taught in-house.

For added hilarity and as a side tangent, company directors have said they're now discriminating against who they're hiring: People with pronouns in their resumes? Bin. Women because of MeToo and the current feminist epidemic? Bin (as they're not worth the potential headaches of false claims, women forming cliques, et cetera). It's illegal to outright do this, but I don't blame them.

Also, on a personal note, I'm so, so fucking glad I was never able to go to university because of my shit health: Compared to most people in my age group, I only owe about £1,400 in debt total. I'm a free bird in comparison to others in my age range, and I'm thankful for that. :D
I'm in a hiring position at my company. If they have pronouns on their resume, I don't even interview them. I also look at their LinkedIn and if it's super progressive, I usually pass.

Also every manager at my company prefers someone with certs and experience over degrees. We view degrees as almost useless, and a lot of those out of college are lazy, spoiled, entitled and need to learn to be adults still, while expecting higher pay. And for the record, Gen Z are broken. Grown children who use "mental health" as an excuse to be lazy little shits, who actually CRY when asked to stay an hour late or pick up a Saturday shift. They're the fucking WORST, and I am sure that they learned a lot of this in college. But it's also subversive messages on propaganda apps like tiktok.

Anyways, give me someone who spent that same 2-4 years they could have spent in college, working low level help desk roles, any time.

Though if you have two candidates with similar experience and certs, but one has a 4 year degree? I'm gonna give them a fair chance. It'll probably come down to personalities during the interviews.
 
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Scooby Doo

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I'm in a hiring position at my company. If they have pronouns on their resume, I don't even interview them. I also look at their LinkedIn and if it's super progressive, I usually pass.

Also every manager at my company prefers someone with certs and experience over degrees. We view degrees as almost useless, and a lot of those out of college are lazy, spoiled, entitled and need to learn to be adults still, while expecting higher pay. And for the record, Gen Z are broken. Grown children who use "mental health" as an excuse to be lazy little shits, who actually CRY when asked to stay an hour late or pick up a Saturday shift. They're the fucking WORST, and I am sure that they learned a lot of this in college. But it's also subversive messages on propaganda apps like tiktok.

Anyways, give me someone who spent that same 2-4 years they could have spent in college, working low level help desk roles, any time.

Though if you have two candidates with similar experience and certs, but one has a 4 year degree? I'm gonna give them a fair chance. It'll probably come down to personalities during the interviews.
What do you think of someone with a Bachelor's degree with three years of experience :p
?
 

Rocinante

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What do you think of someone with a Bachelor's degree with three years of experience :p
?
I'd interview them. I have never turned anyone down for having a degree. It's just that you don't need a degree to get started in my field, so I commonly run into things like 4 year degree vs dude who's been doing help desk 6-12 months, and I'd take the help desk guy any time.

But if we are looking at two candidates with the Same experience, but one has a degree, the degree will get you in the door for an interview, but when it comes to the hiring decision, I'm primarily going to be looking at personalities rather than the degree.

The degree can still help these days. But it's limited. It used to be that you needed one to get into a lot of the professional world, not that long ago. These days, in my field at least, not so much. But it might get your resume noticed, and you might be able to negotiate a little better salary. But the common thought is that a little experience is better.

I'd say the best place it helps is the least way people want to use it: go get a degree and start off in help desk. You with no experience but a degree, vs someone with no experience or degree? You win that one. Then you'll have the experience and degree later down the line. People these days though, want to get the degree and jump right into the better engineer/administrator roles, and expect senior pay for it. Then claim their degree is useless when that doesn't work.

All the degree does is give you a slight edge over some other candidates.
 
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