Battletech Battletech/Battlestar Galactica Crossover - Lucky 13th (the rewrite)
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namar13766
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To them, My Rebuttal is 2 words: Clan Tech.
If those Discount Mongols can make such advances with such a shitty societal structure and dubious resources, a healthier society and economy can easily match or exceed them.
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keb Mark 2C
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Presumably he's talking about the XM274 ARES 75mm gun which was intended for the Rapid Deployment Force Light Tank (RDF/LT).
Rapid Deployment Force Light Tank by AAI Corp?
Bear Ribs
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Hmm, there doesn't seem to be any reason that gun couldn't fire longer or shorter bursts so I'm not quite sure how it applies but it's an interesting link.
Aaron Fox
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The XM274 and its sibling cannons are rather unique in the fact that they're 75/90/(and if some sources are to be believed) 105mm autocannon capable of firing three rounds a second with surprising accuracy. The basic idea is to cause the armor to fail by multiple hits in the same spot within a second. It showed up on a lot of near-future and future tabletop games at the time.
There is also a 90mm version as well... the XM275 if I remember right.
Clan tech has its own downsides, usually in the form of immense heat (partially mitigated by their DHS, but when you actually look into it, it's far harder than it looks to keep them cool, quite a few of the clan designs run pretty hot with their canon load-outs). Also, please note that the Inner Sphere isn't 'healthier' than the Clans by much. Remember, the Inner Sphere almost nuked itself into a 19th-century tech base after the first two succession wars. The only reason that the conflicts have lasted for so long is that the Inner Sphere had stockpiled material of all sorts for the entirety of the Star League era. The phrase 'like a demented squirrel packing all the nuts' comes to mind to these stockpiles.
namar13766
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Like I said. A healthier society, which the THIE appears to be.
The ARES 75mm gun was capable of firing up to a five-round burst, although three-round burst was the recommended setting.
The 90mm version did get past the paper stage, but development was slow -- only two prototypes existed, and they were just the bare guns with no turret mounting yet developed. All attempts to squeeze the 90mm into the proposed RDF/LT light tank design were unsuccessful, and by the time the program was cancelled, they only had paper plans for a secondary proposal with a larger carrier vehicle.
"XM-275" was the designation made for the 90mm ARES in Paul Mulcahy's fanon stats for Twilight 2000. He actually did put it in quotes to emphasize that this was not an official designation.
It always amazes me how wrapped up in technical minutiae we BattleTech fans can get.
So...SO MANY catgirls have died!
So...SO MANY catgirls have died!
Technical minutiae is how Battletech fans express love for Mecha-sempai.
I don't think a 105mm version ever actually existed; I suspect the sources you're referring to are conflating the 75mm/90mm project with Ares' later work on 105mm carousel autoloaders for the XM8 AGS and Stryker MGS programs.
Aaron Fox
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Then again, AAI (that's the creator of the ARES gun) kind of vanished off the face of the earth from what I can tell after the turn of the millennium...
Supposedly they got bought out by Textron, who's making the LSAT/NGSW.
You are incorrect. The 75mm autocannon and its loading system were developed by Ares Incorporated, which is still around to this day. AAI Corporation, which developed the vehicle chassis, was bought out by Textron in 2007 and continues to operate as a division of Bell Textron.
Both are largely "behind the scenes" subcontractors, which is why you don't see them very much in public-facing material.
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Aaron Fox
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No, the THiE is a byproduct of the Innersphere which, may I remind you, is more than willing to recreate Tintavel (i.e. why the Ares Conventions was created in the first place, i.e. when two sides nuked a planet until it literally died) at a drop of a hat?
Good to know.
Also good to know.
namar13766
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I say healthier than the Clans. Granted, that's setting the bar so low it'd snag on a limbo dancer's clit piercing, but still.
Please note that the THiE has not been associated with the Inner Sphere outside of intelligence gathering and an influx of refugees during the final collapse of the Star League since the Reunification War.
On a more relevant note, working on the next chapter of the fic, in an odd spot where I know what I want to do next, but I need to set up some boring things in order to do it, and I'm trying to make those boring bits interesting.
On a more relevant note, working on the next chapter of the fic, in an odd spot where I know what I want to do next, but I need to set up some boring things in order to do it, and I'm trying to make those boring bits interesting.
Aaron Fox
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You don't get it, do you? Anything like Tintavel should never even be considered an option and yet it is considered an option in the Inner Sphere until rules that everyone agreed (effectively enforced with nuclear fail-safes) removed it as an option.
Tintavel had a lower death count than Hiroshima, Aaron. Yes it was 'the whole population!!!!!!!11111oneoneoneeleveneleven!!!!' but that was because the whole population was still in a single small settlement on a relatively hostile planet.
Aaron Fox
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We're still talking about an event that was repeated at least once more before the Ares Conventions were made and was repeated wholesale during the first two succession wars.
Hiroshima was followed by Nagasaki.
And the THiE has zero to do with any of the Succession Wars.