ISOT Back to the Past, aka Poland Saves the World from World War II.

Orangeduke38

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The RPG-75 penetrates more than 330 millimeters of armored steel. With this, you can pierce older British battleships such as the Warspite. And no, we don't have anything Korean in the field of anti-tank weaponry accepted in the state.
That would be a funny test, go to Britain and blow a hole through the armor belt of one of their older battleships then mention these will be all over the world soon. The reactions form the Admiralty would be hilarious.
 

ATP

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I just read book about idiots trying to ally with ukrainians before WW2,but,what is important,polish goverment after Piłsudzki putch in 1926 created so called "Prometheus movement" made from people occupied by soviets,which include ukrainians.
@Batrix2070 could use them.
 

ATP

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That would be a funny test, go to Britain and blow a hole through the armor belt of one of their older battleships then mention these will be all over the world soon. The reactions form the Admiralty would be hilarious.
Well,AT warheads for 120mm and 155mm gun could the same.Which mean,that ,when tank could not sunk battleship,Krab 155mm probably could.
 
Contract, presentation and plane

Batrix2070

RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
May 10, 1940
French Third Republic
Paris


The tenth of May, the day marking the beginning of the greatest disgrace in the history of France, well, in the original timeline, that would have been the case, thought the Prime Minister of France, Edouard Daladier. But not here, in this timeline, this day will pass as a special day, but still not as significant as the other one.

Just another important diplomatic and trade treaty. Daladier didn't know whether the Poles did it intentionally or if it was just a coincidence that it happened on that date.

But what is this treaty about that it will be remembered? It is because France sold one of its overseas territories, a colony henceforth called Polish Guiana. Why did the Poles want that piece of land?

Daladier had no idea, but the Poles paid in gold, silver, a few technologies, and a generous order in French shipyards. So, they sold it to them. Of course, Daladier's government packaged it into one agreement; initially, the Poles wanted to pay separately for the ships and the colony.

In addition, Daladier was somewhat surprised by the persistence with which the Poles sought to acquire their Guiana, or rather any part of Guiana. They also asked the Dutch if they would sell Suriname. And the Brazilians if they would sell the neighboring region of Amapa.

From what he heard, both countries are slowly leaning towards it, but they prefer the great power to take the first step to test America's reaction to it.

It is no secret that Americans don't like it when someone meddles in the affairs of any of the Americas. They consider it their own backyard, which is not surprising since they are the strongest in the area. They particularly look with concern at Polish actions in the Far East or America.

No one missed America's reaction to Chile selling its battleship Almirante Latorre and opening up to KGHM, the Polish mining and metallurgical powerhouse in the field of copper and more. To top it off, in order to show their interest in Poland, Chile made inquiries in Polish shipyards for ships for its navy and placed an order for weapons at their armaments factory.

It's nothing new; countries like Lithuania, Romania, or Finland have also placed orders for ships. However, Chile asked for more than one type of vessel, specifically cruisers similar to the Miecznik class and destroyers of the Huragan class, a new class of ships being built in Polish shipyards.

According to the intelligence reports, the Poles complied with the request. Daladier knew that it would significantly disrupt the balance of power in the region. Not immediately, though, as all Polish shipyards are operating at full capacity to produce the ordered ships as quickly as possible.

And what they produce... well, it will be problematic, especially in terms of classification. Mieczniks, the Poles call them frigates, but for everyone else, they are cruisers. As for the Huragans, they are supposed to be destroyers, but they are not far from being classified as cruisers.

It's strange that they want to order anything from French shipyards, but they do. More precisely, they want Dunkirk, not battleships of the Richelieu class. They want the weaker Dunkirk-class battleships!

This made the Admiralty scratch their heads. Darlan was completely surprised by the Polish choice. They could have ordered anything, and France wouldn't have been offended, but they chose this particular class. Strangely enough, they ordered four of them at once, with a request for the possibility of modifying these ships according to their wishes.

There was no need to wait long to find out exactly what the Poles wanted in order to build new and improved battleships. However, for an additional payment and access to the modifications they would make, preferably in the form of technology, not necessarily the most advanced but more advanced than what France had.

Then, when they asked about the possibility of buying Guiana, it was decided to use it as an opportunity for the Poles to buy another pair of Dunkirks. The Poles were not interested, so fierce negotiations ensued until it was ultimately settled with just one additional ship and combining both agreements.

One could say it was a success. In exchange for a useless colony and a couple of weaker battleships, they would receive a significant injection of cash and technological reinforcement. Another success for Daladier, which he could announce to France.

It was convenient to cover up the inconvenient date from that history that quickly reached France, causing confusion. Instead of protests at his office, which are currently happening because, after all, everyone needs to be reminded that if it weren't for Poland, this day would have been the beginning of humiliation, it will be mainly mentioned how the Prime Minister gave new strength to France at a low cost.

After all, who cares about colonies?

June 30, 1940
III Republic of Poland
Pomeranian Voivodeship
Gdynia
ORP Nieulękły (Fearless)


The celebration of the Polish Navy Day* was in full swing as the former Almirante Latorre, now Nieulękły, was becoming the ORP (Ship of the Republic of Poland). The Naval Ensign was ceremoniously hoisted, and the ceremony was conducted by Vice Admiral Jarosław Ziemiański, who had the honor of commissioning the first Polish battleship into service, alongside him was Commander Andrzej Ogrodnik, the commander of the 3rd Flotilla of Ships.

The freshly rebuilt battleship stood menacingly moored to the Polish quay, capturing the attention of everyone. Many people from the surrounding areas and all over Poland had gathered on this day to witness this unique occasion. Even those who had criticized the idea of bringing back a battleship online couldn't resist being there.

In addition, there was no shortage of state officials from Poland and neighboring countries, as well as envoys from world powers, mostly admirals and their entourage, eager to see what the Poles had achieved. One of them was the Commander-in-Chief of the Chilean Navy, Vice Admiral Julio Allard. He was actually the only foreign officer of his rank present in Gdynia on that day.

He watched with pride and sadness because in this way Chile had lost its powerful argument in disputes in South America, although in return, they were to receive smaller but no less formidable arguments.

Furthermore, the Poles were supposed to show him the prototypes of the ships based on which they would deliver their Chilean versions. The ORP Huragan and ORP Miecznik were docked in the nearby port. Freshly completed and commissioned, they looked on as their younger siblings were also being commissioned into the Navy.

They were, respectively, the ORP Wicher, the second ship of the Huragan-class, a destroyer, and the ORP Włócznik, the second ship of the Miecznik-class, a frigate. Although in the Chilean's opinion, it was just smoke and mirrors, both ships were cruisers based on displacement.

They had a number of changes compared to the prototype vessels, which were partially planned to be implemented in the originals. Nevertheless, the speed of their entry into service was crucial.

"Vice Admiral!" a Polish liaison officer spoke in fluent Spanish, Captain Edward Miszczuk. "We invite you aboard the ORP Nieulękły."

"Lead the way," Allard replied, intrigued by what the Poles had done with his former flagship. As he later said, there was a lot to see. He didn't understand half of what was presented to him, but he was certain of one thing: with such an upgraded Almirante Latorre, he could single-handedly sink all the fleets of South American countries.

This made it even more certain that the question in Poland regarding the order for ships was rather about what to buy them for than whether they should buy them at all.

And what about the Americans? Allard didn't care about them in this case. It was satisfying to see the American naval officer observing the ORP Nieulękły with a grim expression, realizing that someone surpassed the US Navy in terms of quality, organization, training, and technology. Only greater experience, tradition, and numbers were lacking. However, acquiring those wouldn't be difficult, especially since the future Poles were being trained by future Americans.

On the other hand, fighting with your grandson who knows what you did wrong and has fixed it doesn't sound too appealing, does it?

August 8, 1940

III Republic of Poland
Vilnius Voivodeship
Vilnius-Porubanek
5th Fighter Aviation Bas
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There was commotion on the Vilnius-Porubanek airfield, a civil-military airport, particularly on its military side. In addition to the newly delivered PZL.11H Kobuz II aircraft, three new low-wing machines had also arrived.

Each of them was slightly different, although the general outline and construction scheme were similar, but an observant eye could spot the differences. Pilots noticed them, as they would, being pilots.

"Are these the new Jastrząb aircraft?" Senior Private** Pilot Mieczysław Popek asked, observing the aircraft being assembled by technicians.

"Apparently so," Corporal Pilot Antoni Joda*** replied.

"I see three different versions, but I notice that each of them bears a resemblance to two Allied aircraft," said Junior Ensign Pilot Stanisław Kędzierski. "What were those planes called?"

"Spitfire and Mustang," suggested Sergeant Pilot Marian Bełc to his colleague. "One looks closer to the Mustang, the other closer to the Spitfire, and the last one seems to be something in between."

"Although, Marian, they look more like Spitfires than Mustangs," added Junior Ensign pilot Mieczysław Waszkiewicz.

"No wonder, in Kraków, we have a Spitfire, much more advanced than the British ones. Moreover, in exchange for the opportunity to look at it, the British sold us over a dozen others that are currently in Mielec. They also provided us with technical plans for those aircraft. But we don't have a single Mustang, let alone Americans!" Bełc replied, recalling their recent visit to the Kraków Aviation Museum, where they could see those historic planes.

"If they were so willing to sell their super and hard-to-reach Spitfires, why didn't we take the opportunity to exchange our Spitfire for a license and more Spitfires?" Popek interjected, noting the missed opportunity.

"That's our dear new government for you. Thoughtless, instead of seizing the opportunity, they prefer to struggle with their own idea," said Joda.

Here, Bełc had to disagree. "Gentlemen, let's not jump ahead so quickly. Indeed, we could have done that, but why ask for a license and machines when we can brazenly demand the plans for the first version, copy our Spitfire, and then merge and improve both plans to sell our 'copy' worldwide? I doubt the British would appreciate their aircraft being sold left and right without profit for themselves. But with an improved copy, they have nothing to say because it has enough differences to be considered a new plane!"

"Marian is right, getting a license would have put us in a real mess. But now, we'll be able to sell our Jastrząb just like the Elevens and Twenty-Fours without hesitation," Kędzierski supported his colleague.

"Well, you know, it would have been simpler and faster," Joda replied.

"They actually made it simpler and faster. They took everything they could, practically for nothing. After all, the most important thing is the electronics, and you'll admit that the electronics in the Kraków Spitfire don't even come close to the Kobuz II, right?" Kędzierski responded.

"Indeed," Joda reluctantly agreed. He had seen the inside of the Spitfire, but the switch from the PZL.11c to the Kobuz II revealed the scale of the difference. He practically had to learn to fly the Elevens again because, along with the electronics upgrade, the airframe underwent renovation and modifications. It was definitely a plus since it already flew great before, but now it was excellent.

"Besides, there's no use crying over spilled milk. As you can see, the Jastrząb is already built, we've completed the first flight. It seems we're now entering the testing phase since they delivered this trio to us," added Kędzierski.

"Correct, Ensign," joined the discussion their commander, Captain Włodzimierz Łazoryk, the leader of the 152nd Fighter Squadron, one of the two fighter squadrons of the 5th Fighter-Bomber Wing stationed in Wilno.

"Our squadron has been assigned to test the PZL M106 Jastrząb. We have three different versions of the Jastrząb here. Our task is to evaluate this aircraft in every aspect of military operations. We are to see what the engineers from Mielec have come up with, assess it, and propose improvements. So, expect each of you to get several flight hours on each of them," informed the pilots Łazoryk.

"Any questions?" Captain added after a moment.

"I have one," Joda spoke up.

"What is it?"

"When do we get in and compare it to the Kobuz II?" Joda's question didn't go unanswered. All of Łazoryk's subordinates looked at him expectantly, eager to be the first to sit at the controls of the new fighter.

Łazoryk smiled. "Actually..." He glanced at the mechanic overseeing the work, who was talking to Senior Master Władysław Domagała, the Chief Mechanic of the 152nd Squadron. Both men noticed the commander's gaze, and the supervising mechanic raised his thumb, indicating the aircraft before returning to the conversation. "...we can do it now. Let the mechanics finish up, and we'll start."

The pilots were delighted; it was one of the best changes they had received as a result of the Event. The logistical problems related to fuel and supplies had disappeared. They could fly without major concerns about depleting their assigned reserves, allowing for much-needed training to an unprecedented extent. Additionally, the improved technical equipment at the airport made the work of the mechanics and technical staff easier. As a result, they flew much more than before.

The only concern was the upcoming modernization of the entire airport. They would be temporarily relocated to Lida because that airport was the first to undergo the modernization process. Construction work was just finishing up there.

"Alright, who's first, Captain?" Popek asked.

Łazoryk smiled once again before pointing at Popek and the nearby Second Lieutenant Edward Grub.

"Ah," Popek acknowledged, seeing what their commander had in mind.

Some time later...

Marian Bełc sat comfortably in the cockpit of the Kobuz II; it was finally his turn. Although he had initially been assigned to the Eleven, while Junior Ensign Mieczysław Waszkiewicz, or "Mieciu" as he was known in their unit, sat in the brand new Jastrząb, the Mark I version, which closely resembled the Spitfire.

But as he personally learned, as explained by the mechanic Andrzej Białas, who arrived from Mielec, and the test pilot from PZL-Mielec, Karol Misztal, the resemblance was only due to the characteristics that make the Spitfire so good. Indeed, the plans for that aircraft served as a foundation, but in fact, it was a completely new design with several differences that, in simple terms, provided better aerodynamics than the Spitfire.

These differences allowed them to extract more from the PT-6 engine produced in WSK-PZL Rzeszów, which easily handled its role as a fighter engine. He witnessed the effects with his own eyes. Each of these versions easily reached 600 km/h and could comfortably reach around 736 km/h. For him, who considered the Kobuz II's top speed of over 430 km/h to be mind-blowing, this was a whole new level.

The Jastrząb was quite maneuverable, although not as much as the Kobuz II, as it would be difficult for such a fast low-wing aircraft to match the slower, high-wing Kobuz in terms of maneuverability.

Nevertheless, it was agile, which was the most important characteristic for a fighter pilot, as success in maneuvers could mean the difference between life and death. A fast but poorly maneuverable aircraft only had one chance of shooting down an opponent in aerial combat. That's why they excelled in bombing missions, where they had to quickly approach, drop the payload, and get away before ground defenses brought them down.

Looking at the American F-16s in their air force and how they were supposed to be operated, they came up with the term "rocket plane." Just like a bomber, its goal was not to engage the enemy in combat but to reach the target, fire the rockets, and escape before encountering a response.

Perhaps it was effective and the only reasonable approach in their wartime conditions, but it had little to do with fighter combat. Fortunately for Bełc, it didn't seem likely that he would ever have to resort to such a style of fighting. By the time it would come to that, he would already be retired, enjoying time with his grandchildren.

For now, things were to remain the same. The ongoing exercises demonstrated that, which included one-on-one combat, interceptions, and aerial acrobatics. It was a complete package where both pilots aimed to shoot each other down.

Bełc had to admit that with the new helmet and cockpit equipment, it was much easier, and the fights were more evenly matched, despite the performance differences between the two aircraft. He could afford more aggressive maneuvers and had a better spatial awareness, even if he could no longer feel the wind on his face.

The radar played a significant role here, which was identical in both aircraft. The new sights with automatic confirmation of hits thanks to the built-in photogun and camera made training easier and allowed for better accuracy assessment.

Of course, Bełc's favorite aspect was the fact that he could now fly just as well at night as during the day, thanks to the new sights that possessed such a range of capabilities he never thought possible.

He didn't forget the first time the entire squadron flew at night to practice nocturnal battles and ground attacks; it was an incredible experience. He wondered what the reactions of Soviet and German pilots would be if suddenly their squadron swapped places with their counterparts from 1939 and took part in the September Campaign on their Kobuz II aircraft.

They wouldn't have saved Poland, but they would have shot down many enemies. He was tempted to accidentally shoot down such a bandit.

As if God or fate had heard his thoughts while he was performing his next task, Łazoryk's voice came through the radio, sounding concerned.

"Kruk 5, Kruk 6. Cease the tests! I repeat, cease the tests! Do you hear me?"

"I hear you loud and clear, Tower," replied Bełc, alias Kruk 6.

"Confirmed, I heard it," said Waszkiewicz, alias Kruk 5.

"Unknown flying object has entered from the direction of Królewiec, currently located over Suwałki and heading towards Łomża. Your task is to locate, identify, and, if they refuse to land, shoot it down. The rest of the squadron will join you shortly. Understood?" informed Łazoryk.

"Understood, Tower, no reception," said Bełc.

"Understood, Tower, no reception," confirmed Waszkiewicz, then switched to their own channel.

"Don't you find it strange? Two years of peace with the Germans, and suddenly this?" Bełc asked.

Bełc shrugged involuntarily, although he knew Waszkiewicz couldn't see him. "Maybe a defector? It's evening, the sun is slowly setting, he might think he can slip away under the cover of darkness."

"Two years ago, maybe, but now he could be flying in broad daylight, and we'll see him and catch up," observed Waszkiewicz.

"True," replied Bełc. "How much ammo do you have?" he added after a moment.

"Half a magazine. We did some shooting, you know, testing if the machine guns are working properly. I'd rather not find out about any malfunctions during a heated battle. We could have detected them now, but we were too conservative with the aircraft during field tests," replied Waszkiewicz.

"Right," agreed Bełc.

"And you?" asked Waszkiewicz.

Bełc rolled his eyes. "Full, I dry-fired, remember?"

"Forgot, you know, we're used to practicing with live rounds."

"Yeah, yeah," replied Bełc. "Okay, don't hold back, fly at full power. I'll be in reserve."

"Got it!" said Waszkiewicz, then gave full power to the Jastrząb's engine and flew ahead towards the target. Bełc redirected himself on a different course, aiming to intercept near Zambrow.

As it turned out, it was a good move. The target reached Łomża, changed course, and started flying towards Białystok. It was here that Marian Bełc encountered, for the first time in his life, a flying Focke-Wulf FW 190.

The aircraft was fast, faster than the Kobuz II at full throttle. Fortunately, it was slower than the Jastrząb and definitely couldn't fly well at night like both of their planes.

After a long pursuit, Waszkiewicz joined Bełc near Choroszcz, a town west of Białystok.

However, just because the German didn't attack didn't mean he didn't defend himself. He didn't want to land in a field or be led to an airport. He maneuvered and danced, trying to evade the Poles. Waszkiewicz and Bełc, despite working together, were constantly competing to be the first to shoot down the uninvited guest.

In the end, it was Marian who opened fire first, seizing the opportunity when it presented itself. Eight 12.7mm caliber machine guns played a bass staccato.

The hit was accurate, and the burst was short. The FW caught fire before plummeting down. Waszkiewicz followed it, wanting to make sure the German wasn't pretending. It turned out he wasn't. The pilot jumped out of the plane before it crashed near the local park, next to the former palace, now the Palace Interiors Museum in Choroszcz.

The pilot landed on the local football field, where he got stuck as the gate was locked, and the fence wasn't suitable for climbing. The local police quickly apprehended him, and he surrendered without resistance.

They took him to the Provincial Police Headquarters in Białystok, where he remained until the appropriate authorities took him for interrogation. The local people had plenty to say to each other. Especially one of them, a certain Krzysztof Kononowicz, known for his internet mythomania, fancied himself as the one who captured the German and handed him over to Division II.

In this way, the small town, previously known mainly for a pair of socially marginalized individuals who shouldn't be making a career on the internet but should be in the local psychiatric hospital, gained fame as the place where a German plane crashed for the first time since World War II.

The wreckage was taken for examination, and the fact that the FW 109 was introduced a year earlier than in OTL was troubling to everyone. Internet experts (mockingly called Polnet now) debated this fact, and photos of the wreckage and what the military didn't take with them circulated all over the internet.

Remnants of the German fighter were found for many months afterward.

Sergeant Marian Bełc and Junior Ensign Mieczysław Waszkiewicz received commendation and a promotion to the next rank. As for the German pilot taken captive, he turned out to be an exceptionally talkative and risk-prone individual.

But we'll talk about his reasons another time.

This incident did not disrupt the ongoing Summer Olympic Games in Helsinki,while the success of the Polish team completely covered this event. In fact, it led to a tremendous scandal when Polish representatives won gold medals in every category they participated in. The German delegation loudly protested against recognizing the Polish results. The Soviet and American teams supported them, feeling robbed of victories.

The rest of the countries were less bothered by this fact. The International Olympic Committee ultimately dismissed the objections, considering it a good incentive for others to strive for better performance in the next Olympics.

*It takes place on the last Sunday of June. (This year it was June 25, which was two days ago.) Interestingly, in 1940, it falls on the same day as in 2024, which is June 30th.

** The ranks in the Polish Air Force are identical to the ranks in the Land Forces, with the only difference being the addition of "Pilot" to the rank. Initially, after Poland's rebirth, the Navy also followed this practice, but eventually introduced its own ranks, although a few remained with the old names, distinguished by the addition of "Navy" to the rank. For example, "Kapitan Marynarki" (Captain of the Navy). PS, this rank is not equivalent to the rank of Captain in the US Navy; it corresponds to the rank of Lieutenant!

*** It's pronounced "Yoda," just like the Master Yoda. No, it's not a reference by the author; it's the actual first name and last name of a real Polish pilot of this squadron.
 
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ATP

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Guiana - good,we could send our rocket in space cheaper.
Chile - also good,but what if USA actually do sometching? Poland could not save them in 1940.
USA - are they really fond of their grandsons,considering how 2023 USA looked like ?
Fw190 - who run to Poland ? do not matter,but probably some future german ace.There was one devout catholic,could be him.
France - better do not sell them anytching advanced,becouse soviet spies would get it all.

Thanks for chapter !
 

Orangeduke38

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Nice chapter, can you put together a new Extra threadmark with all the new designs, or upgraded and renamed things in your story.
 

gral

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Just saying, Brazil wouldn't sell Amapá full stop - anyone that has it can project power into the Amazon River. Not even the technology would be enough enticement(in fact, I'd expect Vargas' government to be somewhat paranoid at having new neighbours who would be able to beat the Brazilian Armed Forces, AND obviously have knowledge - that the Brazilians don't have - that there is something valuable in the neighbourhood).
 

Batrix2070

RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
Just saying, Brazil wouldn't sell Amapá full stop - anyone that has it can project power into the Amazon River. Not even the technology would be enough enticement(in fact, I'd expect Vargas' government to be somewhat paranoid at having new neighbours who would be able to beat the Brazilian Armed Forces, AND obviously have knowledge - that the Brazilians don't have - that there is something valuable in the neighbourhood).
More importantly, there was an incident related to the Maritime and Colonial League in the 1930s. Namely, Poland at that time was very overpopulated, in view of which the Polish government encouraged emigration. One of the destinations was the State of Parana in southern Brazil, the Vargas government got scared when the League and a couple of other organizations financed the purchase of 250,000 hectares of land in Brazil for Polish colonists, fearing that Poles wanted to annex it. He shut the whole thing down and the government in Warsaw shrugged its shoulders, not intervening, which ended the matter.

Of course, Poland does not want the entire Amapa, but the most northern part, not reaching the entrance to the Amazon delta. Specifically, it wants two municipalities, the municipality of Oiapoque, which lies right next to Polish Guiana, and the neighboring municipality of Calçoene to the east.

The modern government does not know this, which is why it was surprised by the Brazilians' stubbornness in the face of refusal. It is trying to convince the Brazilians without knowing why they refuse. And what Daladier knows are rumors, for many are willing to give up this sparsely populated area for glimmers of Poland. The case is much better with Suriman, here the Dutch are much more interested in the exchange, for cooperation is already good, Poland has sold some of the knowledge of natural gas resources in the Netherlands which is then sold to Poland at a profit.

And the promised technology for the region, allows for increased production from the Dutch East Indies. More importantly along with this are to go Polish investments in this colony. As well as security guarantees for it, in short Poland will be the guarantor that the Japanese will not try to reach for it.
France - better do not sell them anytching advanced,becouse soviet spies would get it all.
It's mostly Cold War technology, and you know what kind of technology we had, right?
 
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gral

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More importantly, there was an incident related to the Maritime and Colonial League in the 1930s. Namely, Poland at that time was very overpopulated, in view of which the Polish government encouraged emigration. One of the destinations was the State of Parana in southern Brazil, the Vargas government got scared when the League and a couple of other organizations financed the purchase of 250,000 hectares of land in Brazil for Polish colonists, fearing that Poles wanted to annex it. He shut the whole thing down and the government in Warsaw shrugged its shoulders, not intervening, which ended the matter.
Yeah, that would have OK earlier, not by the 1930s. By 1930, Brazilians had changed their opinions on immigrants, seeing them as destabilizing factors(most factory workers were immigrants - Italians and Spanish, mainly, and they brought things like Anarcho-Syndicalism with them) instead of a net good. In fact, in 1931-2, Brazil enacted a law that almost closed down the country for immigration.
Of course, Poland does not want the entire Amapa, but the most northern part, not reaching the entrance to the Amazon delta. Specifically, it wants two municipalities, the municipality of Oiapoque, which lies right next to Polish Guiana, and the neighboring municipality of Calçoene to the east.
There was a proposal to settle the Amapá territorial dispute between Brazil and France by having the border be the Calçoene River(IIRC, it was Brazil that offered that, but France chose to press their claims to the Araguari River - the matter went to arbitration, which ruled in favour of Brazil), but that was to try to solve a dispute.

Big problem was(is) that Brazil gets a bit nervous with European powers(and Poland definitely is one of those now) at their borders(and yes, that applies to French Guyana - even if Brazil officially insists there's no problem with it, a few people do have a problem with it, even if they know they can't do anything about it). Even if asking for Oiapoque and Calçoene is more feasible than asking for the whole of Amapá, I still don't see that gaining much traction. Again, in the 1920s, it may have been acceptable (maybe; winning that dispute was largely celebrated back then, and is one of the reasons why Rio Branco is still seen as a national hero).
 

ATP

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Those territories was still not fully discovered in those times - so,@Batrix2070 could move there 20m long anacondas,dinosaurs,white indians,amazones,and hidden cities there !

And,back to cold war technologies - they still could destroy Rosomak,Borsuk,or PT91,so better do not gave anytching to french at all !
 
Drowned in the Swamp or the Fate of NGOs.

Batrix2070

RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
August 14, 1940
Third Republic of Poland
Mazovian Voivodeship
Warsaw


"... for this reason, Marcin S., also known as Małgorzata, along with Monika P., Kamil C., Karolina D., also known as Konrad Z., are sentenced to four years of community service and fifteen thousand złoty fine. Michalina N. and Julia D., for active assault, robbery, theft, leading an organization aimed at violently changing the system of the Republic, espionage on behalf of a foreign power, are sentenced to the maximum penalty, which is twenty-five years of imprisonment to be served at the Special Penal Facility in Bereza Kartuska," announced the appellate judge, Karol Michta, concluding a case that had been ongoing for several years, involving the anarchist queer collective called "Grupa Nieustającej Pomocy" (The Group of Perpetual Aid) that had occupied one of the buildings illegally.

He confirmed the verdict of the first and second instance, even making it more severe than the previous ones. This was another blow dealt to the declining NGOs in Poland that aimed at promoting more "liberal" customs.

In fact, it was just a formality, as the convicted were well aware that they had run out of money long ago. Just like many other similar organizations with leftist-liberal agendas.

It was no surprise that practically all of them were funded from abroad, mainly from Germany and Europe in general – practically one and the same. The funds from Poland amounted to at best 20% of the total budget.

This was not enough to sustain them reasonably, so the erosion of the liberal-leftist support base began quite quickly. To the surprise of many, the pace of this erosion was so rapid that all the court verdicts and investigations launched against these organizations were like clearing out the most stubborn and deeply rooted ones.

While these organizations attempted to defend themselves, without financial support, their ability to influence society dwindled to the level of insignificance. As a result, all attempts to provoke protests and social resistance went virtually unnoticed by the public.

With no money, they couldn't afford competent lawyers, bribes, and lobbying in the Parliament. This, combined with the fact that no one could stop the government from fulfilling the will of its voters – getting rid of "revolutionaries" – made eliminating such organizations child's play.

After all, who would care about lunatics talking about a thousand genders?

The Poles? From the very beginning, the whole LGBT fuss had irritated them, although they were indifferent to the people behind those letters. Affirmative actions, in fact, worked in the opposite direction of their official goal. PiS and Konfederacja voters had no qualms about tightening the screws and getting rid of these "weirdos."

PO voters were mainly focused on their hatred towards PiS. Anyone who dared to support PiS or at least not support PO was their mortal enemy. A good example was the Commissioner for Human Rights, who was a "PiS-supporting" gay. Demonstrating tolerance towards him didn't stop PO voters from slandering and insulting him with derogatory remarks about his homosexuality.

Left or Polska 2050, as well as PSL, had already received their share of criticism earlier for their reluctance to form a single electoral list, which was what PO demanded.

The left in Poland, on the other hand, enjoyed the popularity it deserved due to its communist experiment, which later turned into its contradiction, becoming extreme liberals.

Polska 2050... it hardly even counts; it's like a mini PO for those who don't want to vote for PO, hoping for a different outcome. The history of other parties of this kind – forgotten and betrayed – reveals its future fate.

As for PSL, they are opportunists, saying whatever comes to mind to stay in power.

It doesn't need to be said that for the Kresowiaks, this obsession with sex is repulsive. The worst enemy is Centrolew, for whom the future Polish left is revolting filth. The fact that the old PPS, the true one, is considered right-wing and nationalist by the contemporary left is just a malicious laugh of history.

Of course, there were exceptions that found it impressive, but, as the name itself suggests, they were exceptions to the rule. However, it must be added that in a highly ironic way, Poland has become a mecca for such communities, which were officially suppressed elsewhere. They flocked here because, despite their conservatism by 21st-century standards, they are still more liberal than anyone on Earth.

And the fact that Poland is the wealthiest country on Earth made the decision to immigrate much easier. Many of these immigrants, who in the OTL sailed to America in search of happiness, chose Poland as a cheaper and more desirable alternative. Especially since it was much easier to get a residence permit in Poland than in America.

Of course, it was beneficial for Poland, as many of these immigrants were willing and ready to take up low-paid and hard work that the Poles did not want. More precisely, they didn't want it for the salary offered, which was often deliberately kept as low as possible; if they were offered more, they would take the job.

But for these immigrants, the wages were truly high, significantly higher than anywhere else, and this quickly spread all over Europe, attracting even more immigrants. When Poland took over Guiana and Suriname, it also became widely known in both Americas, which facilitated any investments in Polish America, which someone, some journalist, called Zamorze, which means "Lands Beyond the Sea," following the example of Pomorze, which means "Lands by the Sea" or lands reaching the sea.

The name Zamorze quickly caught on among Poles and the Polonia, and from there, it spread to the rest of the world, although for many years, this region was still called Guiana before Zamorze became the widely recognized name.

For all these newcomers, those strange, mixed-up organizations had even less significance; they hardly even realized their existence. It is not strange at all, as these organizations are loud on the internet, but in reality, they are not noticeable.

It doesn't mean that non-governmental organizations disappeared completely. In place of those artificially inflated by foreign funding, there were organizations that were genuinely popular and necessary. And those that already had a substantial base to rely on, after the disappearance of the glass ceiling created by foreign influence, could easily venture into the broader waters without obstacles.

Moreover, the international pressure disappeared, which facilitated Poland's functioning and allowed for more efficient reforms needed to streamline the stagnant structure of the Third Polish Republic, which served as a reminder of past political struggles in the 1990s rather than a real solution to problems.

It was not an easy process, and many wanted to derail it. However, the weakness of foreign influence organizations, combined with the sheer momentum demonstrated by the Kresowiaks who did not carry the baggage of the past like the Communism and World War II, made the whole process, despite some setbacks, relatively smooth.

A process that would have been inevitable anyway, as the regular changing of the guard was approaching, and nothing, not even vast sums of money and an army of influence agents, could change that.

Isn't that true?
 

ATP

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Why waste time and writing about nobodies like them?
Since Poland take over german and USA Embassiess,better show what we did with Tusk.Even now we knew,that he started his career as STASI agent,and later worked for western germans.


And,you are optymist.Yes,in honest elections we would win and remove those clowns - but,why do you think,that future elections would be honest?

Germans and Biden are working together on making Poland colony again.
P.S i had idea,but since my english is not good,i left it on PM.
 
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Batrix2070

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Why waste time and writing about nobodies like them?
As a looser chapter where I give a glimpse of what's going on at a lower level?
The Germans may want to, the problem is that our dispute is already systemic and even a change in power cannot eliminate it.

It is simply the very momentum and development that forces Poland to clash with Germany and vice versa.

Biden, on the other hand, is, you know very well yourself. He is a puppet without much awareness of the situation around him, since Russia played va bank, he has limited options for action.

Nevertheless, unlike the Germans, America is already reconciled to the idea that PiS may win, it will play for Trzasek but if the latter loses they will shrug their shoulders and take care of business.

And,you are optymist.Yes,in honest elections we would win and remove those clowns - but,why do you think,that future elections would be honest?
By simple logic, the U.S. may care about another government but more so the Deep State which controls Biden cares about the stability of Poland as an eastern NATO shield.

Germany, on the other hand, cares about Poland's instability, because it will create a nice mess on which they can pounce.

Do you see the obvious conflict of interests?

In turn, as you remember, when it came down to it, Germany was confronted with the fait accompli that America did regardless of the dodges that Germany made.

Simply put, America and Germany may want a different government, yet America is more interested in having an already tried and tested option that is already pro-American and acrimoniously anti-Russian than an ideologically correct government. Why would they support an option that is inherently pro-German and thus apes Germany in every idiotic decision, as they already have no small problem with them?

Why add to it for themselves?
 
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Rethinking geopolitics

Batrix2070

RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
August 24, 2025
Krzysztof Wojczal
Geopolitics, History, Constructive, Poland, Hungary

Hungary: A Friend Who Is a Challenging Ally.

We are all well aware of Hungary's stance towards Poland during World War II. Their refusal to participate in the invasion of Poland, the threat to mine and blow up their own railway crossings, turning a blind eye to the actions of the Polish Underground, or actions that worked in favor of Poles in occupied Poland.

All of this is a proud chapter in the history of friendship between our nations. In our darkest hour, Hungary helped as much as it could, being a bigger "ally" than our true allies.

However, it cannot be denied that Hungary was on the opposite side of the barricade in that war compared to us. Why? As I mentioned in the text four years ago ("HungOUT! - why friendship with Poland can cost Hungary its EU membership"), Hungary is a geopolitical rival of Poland.

What is beneficial for us does not necessarily mean the same for Hungary, and vice versa. As I mentioned before, before and during World War II, despite the shared desire to form an alliance and establish a Polish-Hungarian border, both countries ultimately chose opposing military camps. And it wasn't by chance. Simply put, sympathies, shared history, and sentiments lose to geopolitical interests.

Of course, there is a significant difference between the current and past situation. In the past, Beck's Intermarium couldn't come to fruition because Poland was too weak and its neighbors too strong. That's why Germany's offer trumped Poland's.

Now we have the opposite situation, both neighbors are weaker than us even when combined. Neighbors who are located behind mountains, namely the Alps and the Carpathians, do not pose a direct threat to Hungary. Although the Soviets, unlike Russia, do pose a threat to Hungary compared to Germany.

That's why it was so important to tame Germany two years ago and protect Czechoslovakia from Munich. As a result of ultimatums and intense negotiations, in which the British acted as mediators, Germany's position was undermined, leading to a decline in revisionist tendencies in Hungary itself, as the main revisionist was humiliated.

Another great use of the ace that Poland held was promoting awareness of German war crimes and the true face of national socialism. In this way, in addition to losing some of their strength, Germany also lost a significant amount of reputation, effectively isolating the country on the international stage.

"Germany, the Barbarian of Europe," or how to tarnish Germany's reputation and elevate oneself to the main power in Central Europe. - link

In this way, the Hungarians were somewhat pushed towards the Polish camp, which is the Three Seas Initiative. The culmination of this was the signing of the Polish-Hungarian alliance. Nevertheless, this does not mean the end of problems with Hungary.

The fact is that Hungary is an ally of Poland but not an ally of Romania or Czechoslovakia. This creates a certain problem as they claim rights to territories in both of these countries, often inhabited by Hungarians. This is an important aspect that complicates cooperation between these countries, requiring Poland to take on the role of a mediator and intermediary, needing to calm both sides if it wants to avoid an unnecessary war that would only work in favor of the Soviets.

Politics

Who benefits the most from fueling conflicts between Hungary and its neighbors? It's a simple question, and it seems to have a straightforward answer: Germany and the Soviets, everyone will say. The problem lies in the fact that, though it is true, both countries have limited means to achieve this.

How? You may ask. In the case of the Soviets, the memory of the Hungarian Soviet Republic is still at play, causing Hungarians to harbor strong anti-communist sentiments. Therefore, Soviet opportunities are limited to covert acts of sabotage, hoping to increase hatred between neighbors. They have limited diplomatic possibilities as any diplomatic assurances will always be seen as insincere.

For Germany, it is even more challenging since, thanks to our favor, Hungarians could see not only Germany's weakness but also that the alliance with them, though rational in their current situation, brought nothing good and even led to their disaster. Coupled with Germany's newfound reputation, all German possibilities in this direction have been limited, just like in any other.

In light of this, we need to consider which great powers might be interested in influencing Hungary and inciting them against Romania and Czechoslovakia, thereby involving Poland in this area.

Japan should be excluded immediately, as its interests lie entirely in Asia and the Pacific. In Europe, they only have their eyes on Great Britain and France as forces opposing their actions in Asia. And of course, Poland as an ally against the Soviets, which further excludes it from supporting Hungary.

France is excluded by definition; its area of interest lies elsewhere, and fueling Hungary would work against its allies from the Little Entente, who formed an alliance with France and each other to contain Hungarian aspirations.

Italy seems to be more interested since, like Hungary, they are interested in revising the world order. Both countries have shared claims against their common neighbor, Yugoslavia, which do not intersect. However, the fact is that Italy is limited in its ambitions by France and Great Britain, who are no longer preoccupied with Germany. Worse for Italy, we are not interested in undermining the integrity of another state, as we wish to avoid unnecessary conflicts.

Fortunately, any differences of interest between our countries are being minimized by the rapprochement that Mussolini has achieved with our country in recent years. Italy under Mussolini is clearly interested in the Three Seas Initiative, which should not be surprising, considering that one of the Three Seas is the Adriatic Sea.

The Adriatic Sea has no shortage of Italian ports, and moreover, Italy shares a land border with Yugoslavia. This will provide them with convenient access to the Baltic Sea, bypassing half of Europe, as well as to the Black Sea and the states located there, bypassing Greece and Turkey.

However, for this to happen, Hungary, which will serve as a north-south transport hub, must maintain relatively good relations with its neighbors. Cold and hostile relations would prevent the establishment of the Via Carpathia or Via Pannonia and, consequently, hinder a secure connection to Northern Europe through Italy.

Therefore, although there may be certain elements of coincidence in revisionist interests, I wouldn't expect Mussolini to risk this golden opportunity by stirring up Hungary. Rather, he would encourage them to maintain peace, at least until Austria remains German. And as for the detachment of this region, it doesn't seem imminent; such tendencies may only arise when Austrians see how much their Hungarian neighbors are getting richer.

This, of course, presents another area of converging interests between Poland and Italy, for whom a free Austria is more profitable than a German Austria.

What leaves us with two candidates who may be interested in diverting Poland's attention by inciting Hungary, both of whom would benefit greatly from disrupting the Three Seas Initiative, which, once completed, would become impervious to foreign influences. It would serve as a Polish hinterland, significantly strengthening Poland and the countries in the region, allowing them to play in the premier league.

The Three Seas? Needed immediately! - Poland's highest raison d'être, providing lasting protection of independence without foreign forces. - link

Great Britain

The British Empire, currently one of the most powerful in the world, though its days as an empire seem numbered. While it doesn't possess the world's most potent economy like the USA, the military strength of Germany, or the technological advantage of Poland, it surpasses them in one aspect—it is not an isolated power confined to its own backyard.

The United States is still dormant, waiting for the moment when it needs to wake up, although everything indicates they will awaken soon.

The United States: The greatest threat to Poland? - link

Germany has been limited in its ambitions by the combined coalition of Paris, London, and Warsaw, which confines their actions mainly to Europe, where, fortunately for us, they have little room to maneuver.

Poland, on the other hand, is continuously building and adapting to its completely new and forgotten position of power. It needs time to establish its base and learn how to expand globally. Without the Three Seas, we are an incredibly wealthy, efficient, and technologically advanced country with limited resources and human power, which restricts our real possibilities.

However, all three countries share one thing—each of them has ambitions and enough power to overthrow the British. Fortunately, they are at odds with each other, so it seems that the British can handle each of them individually.

At least, that's how it looks on paper. Unfortunately, as I mentioned in one of my previous articles, there is a considerable chance that the United States will "ally" with Germany to undermine the existing order, which is slowly becoming a limitation for the American sleeping giant.

As we know from history, through Europe's two devastations, America emerged as the main power of the West, with unprecedented strength and power, making the old European powers dependent on it, which further aided America's development.

However, the chances of that happening now are slim. In our reality, America's strength and advantage over other powers will never grow as it did in history. Still, undoubtedly, they will be the most reliable rival for Poland, being the only power whose economic potential is equal to 1/6 of Poland's current potential.

As I mentioned earlier, as American decision-makers familiarize themselves with history, they might be tempted to replicate America's strength from our time to weaken their most reliable rival and have time to strengthen themselves.

Hence, America can extend a helping hand to Germany, trying to strengthen it for one purpose only—to harm us in a proxy war. The same can be expected in relation to the Soviets; with their territory and mass, they can trap us for a long time.

This, of course, works to America's advantage, especially as they will gain significant resources after the fall of the USSR, making us the greatest possible threat to them. We will become the dominating power in Eurasia, capable of challenging America and easily overthrowing it.

Therefore, alliances with France and Japan are precious to us, as we gain the fourth and third fleets in the world to counter the first, and we cut off potential threats from greater American assistance.

Nevertheless, we still have another, quiet and potential ally—Great Britain. It does not relish America's rise to power or its ambitions, which, though dormant, are visible. Great Britain prefers to avoid conflicts that could lead to the disintegration of its empire. However, under the right pressure and given a chance, it may join a war on the side that suits it best.

As it happens, even though Poland is strong, it does not directly threaten British interests. Furthermore, Poland acts as a pacifier for Europe, allowing Britain a free hand in its colonies. Moreover, a direct or indirect confrontation with us is not in the interest of Great Britain. We must also consider the significant informal coalition that could form against Britain in such a scenario. Hence, despite the possibility, it is safe to assume that Great Britain will avoid supporting Hungarian ambitions, as it might drag them into an unwinnable war or at least destabilize the continent—the worst option for the British.

Therefore, unlike many other analysts, I do not see problems with the British for us. On the contrary, I see that if the Washington-Berlin-Moscow coalition plan were to succeed, Britain would eventually join the war on our side. Especially since in this conflict, all they would need to use is their Royal Navy, as the combined Polish-French army would be enough to defeat Germany and the USSR.

With minimal support from their navy, they can easily tilt the balance of victory in our favor and defeat America, weakening the greatest threat to their Empire in the world.

However, once America is no longer the biggest threat, I see that they might be interested in weakening the Three Seas Initiative using Hungary. At first, modestly, and gradually growing as the technological gap will not be as significant as it is now. Nevertheless, for the next 30 years, I expect cooperation from the British rather than rivalry, as they have too much to lose and little to gain in such a competition.

United States of America

The United States, currently the richest (after us), although a state in slumber, still grappling with the effects of the Great Depression. We all wish it could last as long as possible, as it is the only global power capable and interested in restraining us.

Moreover, it is one of the two we cannot reach due to the tyranny of distance, though fortunately, it is the only one where this is useful.

Although the US Navy is technologically and organizationally outclassed, it has an advantage in the number of ships, scale of operations, range, and production-supply base.

Unfortunately, the lack of ship-launched missiles poses a serious problem for us. Although intense efforts are currently underway to develop all the necessary types, the appearance of the first prototypes of the required missiles is expected no earlier than 2030, which gives America a five-year time window.

Until the first prototypes are developed and implemented, our qualitative advantage, though significant, is not decisively conclusive. Despite the increasing interest in the Polish shipbuilding industry, our full production capacity is lower than that of the Americans, and the higher technological requirements for our ships reduce the number of available hulls.

America can afford more risk than us, and the losses we would suffer will be much more difficult to recover from. Therefore, they may feel quite confident and secure, which unfortunately poses a problem for us.

Because of this "illusion" of security, they may be inclined to take actions that may appear extremely reckless to others.

Thus, it is safe to assume that America will show increased interest in Hungary, aiming to weaken Poland and hinder its growth in strength. We should expect a sudden surge in development similar to what Germany has experienced in recent years.

Of course, America does not necessarily have to engage in direct warfare, and I do not see a reason for them to do so without a good cause. Isolationism, however, is still present in the United States, which currently works in our favor. However, with the right pressure, it could dissipate in a short time, bringing significant challenges for us to address.

These are challenges to overcome, especially since we are the stronger side with allies on our side, but still susceptible to significant harm.

We should expect that Hungary will be one of the tools, alongside Germany and the USSR, that America will use to indirectly weaken us and buy time to develop countermeasures against us.

Moreover, our actions in Japan are already causing concern among Americans, which, with the right fueling, may generate social acceptance for more aggressive actions.

Although the actions of decision-makers, maintaining friendly relations with Americans, should be evaluated positively, it appears that, like most of Polish society, they cannot imagine scenarios of rivalry or even armed confrontation with the United States.

On the contrary, such scenarios are already considered in America, as confirmed by Polish-American newspapers or news from re-emigrants in both Americas.

Therefore, all that remains for us is to try to influence public opinion that in this world, America has a significant potential to become our rival rather than an ally. A rival who, contrary to the incredibly romantic and false propaganda presented in their World War II movies, would not mind forming an alliance with Germany and the Soviets simultaneously to defeat or weaken us.

Summary

Therefore, summarizing everything, it should be acknowledged that:

  • Hungary is an incredibly challenging yet essential ally for the Three Seas. Without it, the Three Seas will remain constantly weakened and vulnerable to disintegration under little pressure.
  • There are two forces interested in inciting Hungary, one of which will currently avoid the topic until it gains sufficient strength, while the other will use all methods available to remove Hungary from the ThreeSeas.
  • It will be necessary to constantly balance between allies and avoid direct armed confrontation between them, which will be increasingly difficult as external pressure is exerted on the structures of our country.
  • The sooner Hungary can be infrastructurally connected to the planned Three Seas Initiative network, the faster the revisionist tendencies in the country can be subdued.
  • All integral investments must be under constant surveillance of counterintelligence, as foreign intelligence will constantly seek to sabotage them.
  • In the event of failure, Hungary may become an unexpected spark of World War II, turning all our calculations upside down and forcing us to exert all efforts and resources to win it.
  • This is dangerous because the same force that will benefit from all of this could even intervene at an inopportune moment to tilt the balance of victory in favor of our enemies.
 
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US isolationism will be much stronger in this TL given they can show the ridiculous amount of debt the US took on and the multiple wars in places like Vietnam and Afghanistan that opponents of internationalism can point to. Poland can also stir up plenty of domestic trouble in the US by pointing out how Jim Crow was overturned and the various social changes that happened.
 
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Batrix2070

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US isolationism will be much stronger in this TL given they can show the ridiculous amount of debt the US took on and the multiple wars in places like Vietnam and Afghanistan that opponents of internationalism can point to. Poland can also stir up plenty of domestic trouble in the US by pointing out how Jim Crow was overturned and the various social changes that happened.
Of course, nevertheless, the task of a geopolitician (and Wojczal is one) is to present various scenarios, including those that on the surface may seem unrealistic.

Equally, DC elites, seeing how WWII solved many of the problems plaguing America today, may look to unleash it as an already proven solution.

Of course, the known course of events is that Pearl Harbor won't happen and thus a Japanese attack on America, when the Japanese know full well that without drawing others into the war, they won't skin much.

On the other hand, there is someone who would be very interested in getting America into a war, both with Poland and Japan, and at the same time famous for his dangerously effective secret service.
 
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Of course, nevertheless, the task of a geopolitician (and Wojczal is one) is to present various scenarios, including those that on the surface may seem unrealistic.

Equally, DC elites, seeing how WWII solved many of the problems plaguing America today, may look to unleash it as an already proven solution.

Of course, the known course of events is that Pearl Harbor won't happen and thus a Japanese attack on America, when the Japanese know full well that without drawing others into the war, they won't skin much.

On the other hand, there is someone who would be very interested in getting America into a war, both with Poland and Japan, and at the same time famous for his dangerously effective secret service.
You mean Sralin? i once read,that he somehow managed to provoke Japan attack on China in 1937.Sadly,forget source.

USA -they wonted war,becouse FDR need win elections in 1940,and his New Deal do not worked.Only reason why USA become superpower was making war materials during WW2.

Interesting,would he become president here ?

England - they should be our allies,but sadly was still lead by secret cabal who planned to toss Poland under Germany,so they could fight soviets for them.
Maybe here they would be smarter.

About Hungary - in OTL till at least 1938 they were rather pro-Italian then pro german - italian fighters/Cr32/ ,and tankettess/CV33/
Later they even mass produced Re-2000 fighter.

So,Poland could ally both countries in one go.

Only problem is Czechoslovakia - they were soviet toy,and ,aside their military,all supported soviets there.
I think,that letting them fall would be better.

P.S USA Embassy support german party in Poland,so i doubt in honest election now.
 
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