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Movies Avatar 2: Way of Water
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Typhonis
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So RDA knew enough about Cat people's DNA to not only be able to make an LMD that could live on Pandora, and eat the local food, but reproduce with one of the Natives? Why the Hell are they having trouble with the Cat people?
Second....they can build frakking mega structures that travel to other worlds. Why not build frakking ONeil cylinders to colonize?
Second....they can build frakking mega structures that travel to other worlds. Why not build frakking ONeil cylinders to colonize?
Val the Moofia Boss
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The Venture Star isn't that impressive compared to other sci fi spaceships. It travels at 2/3rds the speed of light and a round trip take a decade. To maximize cargo, the spaceship uses a sled configuration (engines or solar sail at the front pulling the cargo that trails behind), and the Venture Star only needs feel to decelerate at Pandora and accelerate back to Earth (a laser at Earth pushes the ship towards Pandora and decelerates it as it returns to Earth), and even then the Venture Star can't carry that much. Just look at how small the cargo hold is compared to the rest of the ship. The ship can only carry 48 shuttles worth of cargo.
There is no known material in existence that can withstand the sheer tensile force that would be required to withstand the artificial gravity an O'Neil Cylinder would create. So far the only fictional resource in the Avatar setting is the Unobtanium. Apparently O'Neil Cylinders are beyond what humanity can make.
Uhh, what? O'Neill's designs weren't theoretical, they were engineering designs. They were roughly possible with the available materials (high strength steel) of the day. The original paper has the math.
Proxy 404
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RDA wants money from consumers on earth not actual solutions to problems that put them into and when solved out of business, that a trip of the venture star is profitable puts the lye to the whole they need Pandora to survive myth
RDA is just a lot worse then casual fans get the humans would be better off ending the comapny and using the tech at home to fix things or expand out of sol to virgin territory
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If that's the case then Avatar is even more balls. I mean we all assumed it was already a pretty black and white story but if it's true that the RDA can just "solve" all the problems on Earth but wants Unobtainium profits for just the profits sake, Humanities future be damned, then there's literally no moral depth or ambiguity.
Such a powerful metaphor!!!
Such a powerful metaphor!!!
Proxy 404
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yeah it's pretty much just the oil industry at this point well it always wasIf that's the case then Avatar is even more balls. I mean we all assumed it was already a pretty black and white story but if it's true that the RDA can just "solve" all the problems on Earth but wants Unobtainium profits for just the profits sake, Humanities future be damned, then there's literally no moral depth or ambiguity.
Such a powerful metaphor!!!
Bassoe
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For that matter, why should they care if the biosphere dies? They've got the ability to transfer consciousnesses and build custom bodies. Just adapt into something that doesn't need clean water and breathable air and food and an absence of toxic pollution and all that stuff and can thrive equally well on a devastated and sterile earth, an airless asteroid or the pandoran biosphere.
Objection withdrawn if the plot of the movie turns out to be the RDA team coming to pandora to mine and only trying to build a permanent colony after they inexplicably lost contact with home, then the movie ending as the next ship from earth arrives and the human/na'vi conflict suddenly becomes irreverent.
Val the Moofia Boss
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Looks like the RDA recoms have tamed Banshees of their own.
ParadiseLost
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Well, all the critics are raving over Avatar 2, which doesn't mean nearly as much as it used to.
Chris Gore of Film Threat (and formerly G4TV ages ago) apparently saw an advanced screening of Avatar 2 and talked about it on Critical Drinkers channel/podcast... whatever.
TLDW it's apparently a distilled James Cameron film... which apparently isn't a good thing despite him making pretty good films generally. He apparently takes a lot of bits from his previous films and blends it all together in this film and it really doesn't work overall.
There's apparently gaps of logic, extremely cringe dialogue (to the point it draws laughter), drawn out endings, a fair number of terrible characters and overall pretty dumb plot and yet... the action scenes are apparently glorious and memorable, it's an extremely visceral experience thanks to the visual and overall special effects put to shame all of the other blockbuster films in recent memory when it comes to enjoyment/entertainment. He thinks it'll be a good family film and actually didn't mind its length.
Also spoilers about the plot:
Overall he said it was appealing and surpassed his expectations despite its extreme flaws and not quite as good as the first film.
TLDW it's apparently a distilled James Cameron film... which apparently isn't a good thing despite him making pretty good films generally. He apparently takes a lot of bits from his previous films and blends it all together in this film and it really doesn't work overall.
There's apparently gaps of logic, extremely cringe dialogue (to the point it draws laughter), drawn out endings, a fair number of terrible characters and overall pretty dumb plot and yet... the action scenes are apparently glorious and memorable, it's an extremely visceral experience thanks to the visual and overall special effects put to shame all of the other blockbuster films in recent memory when it comes to enjoyment/entertainment. He thinks it'll be a good family film and actually didn't mind its length.
Also spoilers about the plot:
It's about family whaling.
And family... with a STRONG FATHER FIGURE!!!!1
This apparently makes the movie exceptional because it has a strong nuclear family and patriarch themes unlike many movies which means this might be a nice family film.
And family... with a STRONG FATHER FIGURE!!!!1
This apparently makes the movie exceptional because it has a strong nuclear family and patriarch themes unlike many movies which means this might be a nice family film.
Overall he said it was appealing and surpassed his expectations despite its extreme flaws and not quite as good as the first film.
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I not watching Fern Gully 2. Even if they promised to pay me $1,000 dollars to watch it.
What if they paid you $1000 and as the ending they had GEoM Quaritch shoot supernova eye-lasers at Sully causing him to be instantly vaporized?
I would only considered it if I am guaranteed punking and bitching of the Blue Space Hippy Elf Fern Gully people as well.
Typhonis
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Buba
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Means nothing to me.
I rely on reviews from grumpy geezers on sites like this!
Argent
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So about the same as the frist one. I rewatched the frist one snice a freind wanted to try out their new theater room. Overall great special effects with strong fight scenes. The problems comes from everything else from acting to lines to plot being meh.
I may check out the movie but I am not paying theater prices for it. Really this year has been a general disappointment in new movies with only one or two worth seeing.
Sobek
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I am not surprised. Sounds about what I would have expected for ~CURRENT_YEAR# Hollywood, especially after Cameron mega cringe "testosterone is a poison" comments. This is trully a Ferngully moment.
2 interesting things to point out: first one is that critics neithet love or hate it. Average opinion is that it's a "5/10 it's ok, trully one of the movies of all time" . Second thing is that Cameron apparently sunk so much money he needs to get at least 90% of Avatar's box office just to break even which guarantees this thing is gonna be a flop no matter what.
I am not surprised. Sounds about what I would have expected for ~CURRENT_YEAR# Hollywood, especially after Cameron mega cringe "testosterone is a poison" comments. This is trully a Ferngully moment.
2 interesting things to point out: first one is that critics neithet love or hate it. Average opinion is that it's a "5/10 it's ok, trully one of the movies of all time" . Second thing is that Cameron apparently sunk so much money he needs to get at least 90% of Avatar's box office just to break even which guarantees this thing is gonna be a flop no matter what.
Lord Sovereign
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A plot summary from a professional racist on 4chan
I am not surprised. Sounds about what I would have expected for ~CURRENT_YEAR# Hollywood, especially after Cameron mega cringe "testosterone is a poison" comments. This is trully a Ferngully moment.
2 interesting things to point out: first one is that critics neithet love or hate it. Average opinion is that it's a "5/10 it's ok, trully one of the movies of all time" . Second thing is that Cameron apparently sunk so much money he needs to get at least 90% of Avatar's box office just to break even which guarantees this thing is gonna be a flop no matter what.
It sounds like Xenos propaganda at it's finest. James Cameron is a different sort of woke, more the environmentalist kind of "humans bad" than the other comparatively more subtle stuff. But a chronic wokester he still is.
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