Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)
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That you consider one S-300, fired as part of the air defense of Ukraine against Russian TBMs/drones and the missile accidentally falling in Poland on a couple unfortunate farmers, to be a 'false flag trying to create WW3' is rather illustrative of how detached from reality you and people who think the same are.
There is nothing 'accidental' about mining the coolant plant for the ZNPP; that serves only one purpose.
After the Russians blew the dam to induce even more strain on operating that reactor even at 'cold' levels, mining the coolant system is tantamount to nuclear terrorism and openly threatening all of Eastern Europe with Chernobyl 2.0 at any time.
It was not Ukrainian's forces who controlled the ZNPP when it was mined, and history will not forget that, no matter what vatniks say.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
After all this time, it astonishes me that people are still running defence for Russia. Do you actually mistrust the mainstream media that much to take Russian state propaganda as gospel?
Yes he does. The MSM could say that puppies and kittens are cute and he would argue for Puppies and Kittens being ugly.
Your video stopped loading about five seconds in (then I got bored) but those are some above average thighs I guess?
The summer of mostly peaceful riots and Covid really just obliterated any trust people had for americas mainstream media, and like I said their absolute dog shit at doing international news and have been for close to 30 years now because they all purged the people who actually understood that shit as a cost saving method decades ago.
So yeah, quite a few people are at negative trust and I cant really blame them for it because that trust has been hoffically abused.
Bassoe
Well-known member
A teenaged ukrainian man being hunted down by draftsmen to be enslaved to die under russian artillery while his countrywomen point and laugh.
Bassoe
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Not to mention such hits as"Saddam did 9/11 not the Saudis and he's planning on getting some WMDs for round two", "this trade deal won't put our citizenry in zero-sum competition with foreign slave labor", "but this group we want to back are moderate freedom fighters not bloodthirsty jihadist terrorists", "Jeffery Epstein killed himself and had no co-conspirators" and "Russia blew up their own pipeline".
If you don't trust the MSM then why don't you take a gander at what Russian Military Bloggers have been saying from the beginning of the war until now. You will hear the damning truth for yourself. The Russians are the Bad guys in this war. They practically brag about it.
TheRejectionist
TheRejectionist
In part, he gave you a reason where they might have gotten weapons, which if you think about, has been reported that lots or most of the weapons that the Ukraine has been given have ended up in the black market.
Gangs ‘seek to steal’ Ukraine arms from west to sell on black market
Criminal gangs are plotting to intercept Western weapons supplies sent to Ukraine to sell on the black market, a security source has claimed.
www.standard.co.uk
Reported by Russian propagandists of course.In part, he gave you a reason where they might have gotten weapons, which if you think about, has been reported that lots or most of the weapons that the Ukraine has been given have ended up in the black market.
Gangs ‘seek to steal’ Ukraine arms from west to sell on black market
Criminal gangs are plotting to intercept Western weapons supplies sent to Ukraine to sell on the black market, a security source has claimed.
>trying
I'm sure they always were and will, they are criminals FFS.
TheRejectionist
TheRejectionist
I did the check the website beforehand and no, if you check their reports on Ukraine they are clearly pro-Ukraine.
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He didn't actually give a reason. He just stated that his imagination is an argument and used a hyperlinked clip of something completely unrelated to the topic as evidence of his imagination. I guess we don't have enough threads on Ukraine yet so he needed to insert his distress over the conflict in an unrelated thread. Sad.
Or maybe the weapons come from far right MAGA style groups on orders from their Kremlin backers? Here's the proof!
which if you think about, has been reported that lots or most of the weapons that the Ukraine has been given have ended up in the black market.
Gangs ‘seek to steal’ Ukraine arms from west to sell on black market
Criminal gangs are plotting to intercept Western weapons supplies sent to Ukraine to sell on the black market, a security source has claimed.
Nothing in the article substantiates his claim that weapons are coming from Ukrainian janissaries or yours that most NATO weapons have ended up on the Black Market.
Like I get shitposting, but usually it's done for sarcastic or entertaining reasons, not for actual serious engagement of the discussion or topic at hand.
And yet that's not what's said there exactly, please do not bullshit me, it makes me even less likely to trust anything you say than i already do.
I'm going to copy those talking points and use them when my husband asks me to drive cross metro again. I don't care what Google or the MSM are reporting about the weather and traffic. I have negative trust of them. Put out those fires in Quebec first and maybe we'll talk.
Aaron Fox
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... yes. Largely because Russia is everything they like. Like Anti-Gay, WASP supremacy, and similar. It isn't surprising that many right-wing (the left-wing, outside of a handful of exceptions, have universally condemned Russia for decades, some of whom saw this coming) groups consider Russia their Mecca.
They're resisting the inevitability of the consensus going 'left', so they're going full Ommadon (of The Flight of Dragons fame) against the strongest thing of all: inevitability. Putin, in this case, is their idol and their biggest supporter. They're going to simply delay the inevitable, and get crushed by inevitability all the same while generating a lot of bodybags in the process.
Russia is a multi-ethnic, multi-religious empire ruled by a criminal-military oligarchy, no idea what that has to do with WASP supremacy. This is pure delusion and wishful thinking, on the level of the memed western leftist gays simping for Stalin. Yeah, they don't bow to the rainbow mafia, but neither does ISIL, and who likes those?
Putin doesn't give a shit about them beyond their utility as useful idiots. He would order all of them to be assassinated by SVR if he could get an end to western support for his desired conquests in exchange.
Aaron Fox
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First, Russia is multi-ethnic, but in the sense that one ethnic group (Russians) rules over the rest (ala the US until the Civil Rights Movement came to fruition, where the WASPs were at the top)... but why ruin a narrative?
With ISIL, some right-wing went to their side, but they were also Arabs and thus 'the enemy'.
Hence why I said Putin is their idol and greatest supporter.
If you ever had a 15 minute talk with a Russian nationalist (preferably about immigration policy), you would get a different impression.
But that would ruin your narrative...
Russians are just slightly less low in the hierarchy than the other groups, rathern than 1950's USA it's much closer to modern China where while Han are preferred by the government, the CCP are the real "ruling class" and Han who don't act like the CCP rule is the bestest and greatest despite all the evidence to the contrary will still be treated like crap, and those who aren't connected to the CCP still don't get much say or rights anyway even if they don't say shit CCP doesn't like.
Those who consider him their idol are silly, and those who consider him their supporter are clinically retarded - he would order them killed them in the nastiest ways if the western governments offered him some favors for it.
strunkenwhite
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I suppose Eastern Orthodox could arguably be considered Protestant, but I don't think it really makes sense to do this with denominations predating the European Reformation.