Let's not be happy at people dying. As far as I know, he did nothing evil.Silver lining to every war I suppose.
Let's not be happy at people dying. As far as I know, he did nothing evil.Silver lining to every war I suppose.
Got proof of that?
Twitter pics aren't confirmed as being authentic Russian losses. But you're welcome to keep masturbating to them all you like.The hundreds of pictures showing trashed Russian equipment strewn all over the Kyiv region isn't enough? Oh right, you'll just go "lalala propaganda" to that too lmao
Yes, I just posted it, at which point you attempted to claim they get all their info from Ukrainian general staff, when they don't, and then ignore it.They source nearly all their info from the Ukrainian general staff, which is even less believable than Russian reports.
Do you have an impartial source that doesn't rely on Ukrainian propaganda from twitter?
Nope, there's a confirmed list.Believing in fairytales now, are we?
You mean the stuff getting blown up before it can get to the front or in amounts so small and outdated that it is having at best a minor impact on the fighting?
Actually Kyiv is getting hit by cruise missiles, not jet delivered bombs.You're basing that on...? Last I checked Kiev is getting bombed pretty regularly as are all the oil refineries and depots in Ukraine.
Propaganda isn't truth. Do you accept Russian general staff pronouncements at face value? I don't. You shouldn't do that with the Ukrainians either especially since they've been proven to be lying repeatedly.Yes, I just posted it, at which point you attempted to claim they get all their info from Ukrainian general staff, when they don't, and then ignore it.
But guess what? Ignoring the truth doesn't make that truth disappear.
Again pictures of knocked out tanks isn't confirmation that they were actually Russian. A random Turkish blog isn't an authoritative source either.Nope, there's a confirmed list.
Yet you'll buy anything the Ukrainian twitter account says.You really should do a better job at back tracking your twitter.
Because that claim originated from Sputnik news and other Russian sources, and it was a statement made by MoD spokesman Igor Konashenkov not whoever that twitter person attempted to claim.
Of course Ukraine doesn't want to acknowledge what was in those warehouses.LVIV/KYIV, April 18 (Reuters) - Ukraine said on Monday Russia had started an anticipated new offensive in the east of the country while a Russian missile attack killed seven people in Lviv, the first civilian victims in the western city about 60 km (40 miles) from Poland.
Maksym Kozytskyy, the governor of Lviv, said preliminary reports suggested there were four strikes there, three on warehouses and another on a car service station.
Launched by aircraft:Actually Kyiv is getting hit by cruise missiles, not jet delivered bombs.
Ukraine has a cruise missile problem: Russian aircraft launched six cruise missiles at the western Ukrainian city of Lviv as well as the capital of Kyiv early on Friday morning.
Oh those poor Ukrainian bastards. They've been saddled with something terrible: Western talking-heads.
MSNBC analyst Malcolm Nance reveals he joined fight in Ukraine - Washington Examiner
A well-known MSNBC analyst, who apparently just cut ties with the cable news network, has joined Ukraine's fight against invading Russian forces.Malcolm Nance, an author and former military intelligence analyst, appeared for an interview Monday with MSNBC host Joy Reid, who said he was in a...www.washingtonexaminer.com
Apparently some yabo-commentator from MSNBC up and full-on enlisted in Ukraine's Foreign Legion (presuming it's not a publicity stunt).
Yabo-commentator somewhat famous in the immediate past I recall because he twitter-dumbness-said/thought that Chernobyl was an active power plant. I presume he has other instances of dumbery that could be found just because...all these talking-head people do.
I guess...To give credit, it's more honest than what much of the media is doing where they're pro-Ukraine but from their safe bubbles outside Ukraine.
You mean the stuff getting blown up before it can get to the front or in amounts so small and outdated that it is having at best a minor impact on the fighting?
Again pictures of knocked out tanks isn't confirmation that they were actually Russian.
Nice 'sperg out bro
Sure, there are probably several hundred Russian tanks that have taken damage or been knocked out. Russian casualty claims are of course undercounts just as much as Ukrainian ones are overcounts.I've seen a number of dead Russian tank crews that would disagree about that. Also, one warehouse getting bombed, even if it was full of weapons (which you don't have sources for), doesn't prove that the majority of aid is being interdicted.
Yeah he 'sperged the fuck out.You're free to claim that, but I'd point that last time you raised this point, @planefag put out a fairly comprehensive looking rebuttal, to which you replied to with:
I'm not pro-Russian, I'm anti-Ukrainian propaganda and being lied to by my own government, which has been doing so since I've been alive. Sorry bro, I don't have to put any work in to disproving that which has not been effectively proven in the first place. Again your biases are showing.Which is not really a compelling counter-argument. This is the exact "the pro-Russian side cannot get their arguments together to save their lives" thing I said together. Maybe planefag is wrong or is oryx is lying, but you have to actually put in the work to disprove them and actually make a point. Because if you make a point, are challenged, and then run away only to silently re-raise it later, it just makes you look dishonest.....and also kinda dumb, because did you think no one would remember this exchange from just a few pages ago?
Sure you would, if you had evidence to back up what you said.Besides, nothing I say is going to convince you, Planefag, or several other posters here anyway and its just going to turn into a giant waste of time to type out large arguments.
Twitter pics aren't confirmed as being authentic Russian losses. But you're welcome to keep masturbating to them all you like.
Sure you would, if you had evidence to back up what you said.
But you don't.
3 warehouses according to the Ukrainians. The source about it being a weapons stockpile was the Russians. The Ukrainians won't admit of course that that is what happened, so getting an impartial source is impossible. Thing is the bombing of warehouses in Lviv was acknowledged and given that that is a major center for transport from Poland it is more likely than not that it had equipment in it. If you don't want to accept that, that's your business.
You mean the stuff getting blown up before it can get to the front or in amounts so small and outdated that it is having at best a minor impact on the fighting?
Yeah he 'sperged the fuck out.
Clearly you're into that shit because it fits your biases.
Thing is no actual sources for any claims in that sperg out were listed to prove anything, just lots of desperate wishful thinking.
I'm not pro-Russian, I'm anti-Ukrainian propaganda and being lied to by my own government, which has been doing so since I've been alive. Sorry bro, I don't have to put any work in to disproving that which has not been effectively proven in the first place. Again your biases are showing.
Besides, nothing I say is going to convince you, Planefag, or several other posters here anyway and its just going to turn into a giant waste of time to type out large arguments.
Exactly, I was wondering if he was testing the American public's opinion about another foreign military adventure or he is genuinely wanted a direct American troops involvement in Ukraine. This seems to be a pointless escalation at the moment since the most pragmatic NATO could do for Ukraine is to make them fight to last Ukrainian to bleed Russia white and profit from all the weapon sales with a bonus of burying Ukraine with debt to USA thus putting any future Ukrainian government even if they become Pro-Russian in the future firmly into USA's pocket.Why? ukrainian need more weapons,including artillery ,and they would be fine.You do not need soldiers there.
See, I would believe that, if when you had presented a counterpoint saying "this is accurate because reasons, dummy" you effectively hyperfocused on the fact plane was rude to you and scrambled away from any sort of real argument, and are now once again backing away from that counterargument because no hyperlinks.
Holy Fuck you Responded.
What a Sperg!
Your bias is showing...
How about we have less of this anti-aspie prejudice here?
It really doesn't help the discussion along.
Nice 'sperg out bro
Azovstal is huge and reportedly has a lot of underground levels, maybe Azov/the Elenski clown regime were using it to stockpile weapons, including weapons they weren't officially supposed to have yet.It's quite possible that helicopters from the failed evacuation delivered the weapons, before getting shot down on the way back.