Are you incapable of remembering what we talked about just before? I'm giving an analogy between Sailor X what he wants to do to Italians, and Germans, and other former Axis powers and what Putin is doing in Ukraine. Newsflash Sailor X 100% advocated cultural genocide on Italians. He's just as bad as Putin.
Show me where the allies used Mustard Gas to kill civilians in Africa. I can wait.How is that diffrent than what Putin wants? He isn't going to hunt down and kill every Ukrainian down to the child in the crib. He is just going to end the nation state of Ukraine.
And you should learn how to read english. I said the British did more genocide than the ITALIANS. Italy did bad things to Ethiopia yes. But the British and other colonial powers did similar things in Africa, so don't act self righteous you are just sucking up what ever education system taught you.
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But he didn't? Splitting a state into separate ones is a completely different thing. Cultural genocide is when you occupy a state and force the locals to abandon their culture, language and customs in favor of different, foreign ones or else.
I did not advocate for cultural genocide. I advocated for them no longer being Nation States. Germany was not a Nation State until the late 19th Century just so you know.
Stop derailing this is not about the atrocities of the allies in world war 2. First off the type of weapons don't matter, Colonial troops frequently did massacres on locals. Gas weapons are not that bad. Also here is a possible use.
So you know at the start of this conflict Putin did not plan to force the locals to abandon their culture, language, and customs? If Russia had gotten the land of Ukraine and it's population easily, the people would have probably been allowed to keep speaking Ukranian, as for customs how vague are you being there?
So it's ok for Putin to eliminate Ukranian state as long as the new subjects are allowed to speak their language? Also it does not matter, America was not a nation until the 18th century. If some group was able to destroy the military and kill millions would it be ok for them to forcibly break up the nation and prevent the people from voting for the territories to merge?
One Wikipedia is not a valid source for anything. Two Ukraine did not attack Russia. Poland did not attack Germany. Ethiopia did not attack Italy. Ukraine, Poland and Ethiopia were all attacked by Dictators wanting to conquer people who's land they wanted. Is this crystal clear to you.Stop derailing this is not about the atrocities of the allies in world war 2. First off the type of weapons don't matter, Colonial troops frequently did massacres on locals. Gas weapons are not that bad. Also here is a possible use.
Not Africa but it doesn't really matter.
So you know at the start of this conflict Putin did not plan to force the locals to abandon their culture, language, and customs? If Russia had gotten the land of Ukraine and it's population easily, the people would have probably been allowed to keep speaking Ukranian, as for customs how vague are you being there?
So it's ok for Putin to eliminate Ukranian state as long as the new subjects are allowed to speak their language? Also it does not matter, America was not a nation until the 18th century. If some group was able to destroy the military and kill millions would it be ok for them to forcibly break up the nation and prevent the people from voting for the territories to merge?
He absolutely did. Soviets had that policy even long before this whole mess. Of course he was willing to gratiously make the process slower and less heavy handed if they go quietly into the night, but one of the reasons for the war is that Ukraine was going "off the reservation" and beginning to undo centuries of hard oppressive russification efforts done by Russian Empire and then Soviet Union since Stalin.
It would still be an unjustified invasion, and culture is more than just language. On the other hand, was Korea genocided because it got split between North and South over politics?
I think the former part is what makes it worse than the latter.
>allegedStop derailing this is not about the atrocities of the allies in world war 2. First off the type of weapons don't matter, Colonial troops frequently did massacres on locals. Gas weapons are not that bad. Also here is a possible use.
Not Africa but it doesn't really matter.
More sources than you. Also it does not matter. The fact is that the Allies were the winners and wrote the history books, that does not mean they were good people. Also who gives a shit about your "muh dictatorship, muh democracy" bullshit. Honestly you as an American have a fake democracy anyway, and if you don't I don't give a fuck about democracy if it gives just gay rights, and trannies raping kids. Fuck it and it's supporters, and those who fight for it. They don't provide anything of value. Just slaves of big bussiness.
Why do you keep bringing up Soviets like a broken record? I get you are Polish, but modern Russia is not the Soviet Union they do not subscribe to Marxist Leninism. They are Imperialist yes, and a comparison to the Russian Empire is apt however.
You could make the argument, a united Korea under the south would be great. Seperating people of other nations is basic colonialism, small weak states are great for bigger powers to manipulate. Tell me if Germany forced Poland to be broken into a dozen states but did not annex any of them, just used pressure to get favorable trade deals, and use it's occupation troops to prevent anti German expression like Sailor wanted for Italy would you think Germany doing that is ok?
Killing people in a war is pretty basic. But after the war is over, reparations paid, etc. You should not keep imposing your will on other nations, that is Imperialism. That's what Russia would do to other nations, hell that's what China would do to other nations. If so called patriotic Americans are advocating that for the American empire, why the fuck should I support America?
There is continuity between Russian Empire, Soviet Union, and modern Russia.
Then it still is an partial occupation. Non sovereign state, puppet state, whatever Russia has going on with Belarus now.
Because the guy said patriotic American was arguing with was implying Russia should be left alone to do it wherever it wants. So if he doesn't mind Russia doing it, why, by his standard, shouldn't America do it too?
Sorry your formatting is a little fucked up. But I'd hardly say that modern UK, is the same as the UK of Queen Victoria, which is diffrent from the UK that was around in the American revolution which is diffrent from medieval england, etc. Even though there is continuity. Oh and yes Russians have historically been assholes, and are current assholes.
If it's not, why is it paying the debts of Queen Victoria's UK?
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Holodomor was genocide-genocide. Besides that it had cultural genocide, which is what is happening again in parts of Ukraine which Russia holds.
Where did he say that?
You sir have issues all you are doing is spouting talking points bantered around in Youtube comment sections. Most of which is hyperbolic bunk. The facts are.......
He said it right here. Carve it up, make it a protectorate ruled by England, America, and France. Don't allow the people any rights of self determination.If it's not, why is it paying the debts of Queen Victoria's UK?
Britain still hasn't paid off the slavery compensation debt — Adam Smith Institute
Something that seems to be extremely common these days, this idea that Britain paid off the debt for that £20 million in compensation to slave owners back in the day. As an example, although we’ve seen it around several times in the past couple of days alone : Indeed, the “compensation” paid to
Holodomor was genocide-genocide. Besides that it had cultural genocide, which is what is happening again in parts of Ukraine which Russia holds.
Where did he say that?
Being a protectorate is not the same as being annex into a country. It is territory being kept from being attacked by Nations wanting revenge. And after WW2 a ton of countries wanted their pound of flesh in the Middle East, North Africa an parts of Eastern Europe.
So not genocide, or even cultural genocide, just exactly the same thing allied powers did to Germany after WW2.
Protectorate was what Japan was.
Seems kind of silly to say that withdrawing military aid would have no impact on whether Ukraine wins a war.