Just how many military-age men does Ukraine have in total, though? Seven million? More than that? Because at current loss rates, they can keep the war going for more than ten years, apparently.
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Just how many military-age men does Ukraine have in total, though? Seven million? More than that? Because at current loss rates, they can keep the war going for more than ten years, apparently.
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PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
There is a slight difference between theoretical mobilizable population and actual mobilizable population. For starters since EU entry conditions were relaxed they lost somewhere between 2-5 million people to emigration, mostly in 20-30 years age bracket and few of the economic emigrants returned to fight. Secondly, many of the men of military-age are unfit for service (Ukraine being even shittier place than Russia does that to one's health). Thirdly many of the men in Ukraine are unwilling to get killed in this war, so Ukrainian mobilization at the start of war encompassed pretty much anyone they could get, short of cutting into workers in the most essential services. Sure, police and SBU are doing their best to hunt down conscription dodgers and drag them off to the front line, but you can't expect such men to do much good in fighting and will actually make unit cohesion much worse.
Good thing they launched the Special Military Operation. If the Germans waited any longer Poland was going to use its weapons from Britain and France to continue the genocide operations against the ethnic Germans in their territory (which actually historically isn't even Polish territory anyways).
And don't forget how big of a meanie Poland was in refusing to guarantee its neutrality! Germany has every right to be concerned about a Franco-Anglo-Polish encirclement of Germany, after all. If the US has the right to have the Monroe Doctrine, then Germany should have the right not to be encircled on both sides! Poland could have become a neutral state but chose not to and thus invited this round of German aggression. It could have also given Danzig veto power over its domestic and foreign policies, but rudely chose not to do this, thus spurring Danzig to end unification talks with Poland and to announce its unification to Germany instead.
Wise foreign policy thinkers have warned over the last 20 years that the Anglo-French encirclement of Germany with the help of their Eastern European vassal states such as Czechoslovakia and Poland was bound to eventually lead to disaster, and it in fact did lead to disaster!
As a side note, Romania is currently experiencing an extremely massive influx in its Polish and Jewish populations. The Poles are eagerly welcomed by the Romanians while the Jews are less so, only being reluctantly welcomed since they are Polish citizens like Poles themselves are.
Also, off-topic, but what do you think about this 2011 article?
Future Superpowers - The World To 2100 - Anatoly Karlin
Most projections of future trends in national power fail to appreciate the importance of three crucial factors: (1) the declining EROEI of energy resources (including, but not limited to, “peak oil”); (2) the importance of human capital to economic growth, especially in developing countries’...
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By 2100, Russia and Canada become superpowers due to global warming screwing up the rest of the world.
Pink Floyd’s Waters backs Russia, calls Biden a ‘war criminal’ over Ukraine
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Maybe the Allies should have negotiated with Hitler to bring an early end to WWII, eh?
Pink Floyd’s Waters backs Russia, calls Biden a ‘war criminal’ over Ukraine
Roger Waters is defending dubbing Joe Biden a “war criminal,” accusing the president of “fueling the fire in the Ukraine.” “That is a huge crime,” the Pink Floyd co-founder said in an interview tha…
Maybe the Allies should have negotiated with Hitler to bring an early end to WWII, eh?
They tried that and failed,becouse he wanted almost entire Europe.Putin want only Ukraine,Poland and Baltic states.I could undarstandt people from Western Europe who want gave us to Moscov.
Just how many young Ukrainian men did the EU admit in its early weeks?
And honestly, if Russia doesn't give a shit about national self-determination, then maybe the West should adopt a more hardheaded approach in regards to this as well: Give Kosovo back to Serbia and give it Republika Srpska-level autonomy there in exchange for Ukraine getting back all of its lost territories. Would Russia actually be amenable to such a trade? Even with the lost territories returned to Ukraine, Ukrainians are so alienated from Russia right now that a Russian resurgence in Ukraine is impossible. But Crimeans and Donbassers will need to thoroughly have their minds cleansed of Russian propaganda. Could be good to make them autonomous units within Ukraine and allow them to keep most of their own tax revenues, similar to South Tyrol.
FWIW, I don't actually want the West to do this because national self-determination has been a core Western concept for over a century. Still, if China and Russia aren't actually going to give a damn about this (and to be fair, China's claim on Taiwan is stronger from an international law perspective than from a national self-determination perspective), then maybe the West shouldn't either. Past cases of national self-determination were good, but still, this principle is unfortunately not universally accepted.
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
State Department would never compromise on Kosovo.
The 2-5 million number is from before the war, numbers for after the invasion are even less tangible as men between 18-60 years of age are banned from leaving the country, so only those who can afford the bribes are leaving.
Russia supported the implementation of Minsk treaty, that would reintegrate Donbass into Ukraine and give it similar level of autonomy as Chechnya has in Russia. While Ukraine signed the treaty, it refused to implement it on SD guidance and right now Russian leadership is not exactly in a mood to do any compromises, especially not such idiotic compromises like Kosovo for Donbass&Crimea.
As they say it in Lvov when it comes to subhumans, suitcase-train station-Moscow. And for those that don't want to live there is always the knife and the bullet.
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
Not anti-woke enough. And neither are Russians.
Nope.
We are free from medieval times,when moscovites were almost always slaves.That is difference - we are anti-lgbt becouse we choosed to be catholics on our free will.
postsoviets now do that becouse current fake tsar ordered so.If fake tsar was pro lgbt,they would support it.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
Not to mention that Kosovo probably doesn't want to be part of Serbia again. Yugoslavia is a bad memory for everyone in the Balkans, except for Serbia.
No they are quite anti-woke enough. Alongside sampling the ravages of Communism and thus knowing what to look out for, Eastern Europeans are protected by their more devout line of Catholic or Orthodox faith. And being under the rule of multiple empires has made them fiercely defensive of their identities.
That and, well, having a front row seat to a run amok Enlightenment running the West into the ground must be quite educational.
Your own people are still much more pro-same-sex marriage and/or pro-same-sex civil unions than Russians are:
Poland can fit into the Hajnal Line!
Well, Kosovo right now is going to be not universally recognized by the international community indefinitely. Of course, there is the option of joining another internationally recognized state--specifically Albania. But if Kosovars don't want that either, then they will continue to be stuck in legal limbo where the West and some other countries will recognize them but Russia, China, India, et cetera won't.
FWIW, personally, I'm quite content with the principle of national self-determination being applied to Kosovo, Crimea, Donbass, and the rest of Ukraine. I'm just very sad that Russia doesn't quite see it that way. Russia could have simply sent its own troops into the Donbass and perhaps outright annexed it without actually invading the rest of Ukraine, yet Russia unsurprisingly chose the bloodier option, in keeping with the tradition of its Mongol Golden Horde legacy.
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
To an extent, maybe. But if you look at wokeness maps (1,2), situation generally gets worse the further West one goes, even within just the Eastern Europe. And countries of former Yugoslavia especially are waaay too woke, despite having been Communist (perhaps because Communism here wasn't as murderous as elsewhere? I do not know).
In regards to this question, wouldn't the best, nuanced answer be the same as for any other race: As in, it depends? Are they smart and talented? Or are they a ghetto thug?
I don't see the point in lumping in all black people in one box, and the same is also true for people of any other race. Similarly, one might be willing to marry an Indian genius but not an Indian who urinates in public, a practice that is apparently still widespread among the poor in India, unfortunately.
Here's additional reading on the Hajnal Line, FWIW:
hbdchick.wordpress.com
The Medieval Catholic Church's stamping out of cousin marriage made Hajnal Europeans less inbred, less clannish, more universalistic, and possibly more inclined towards Wokeness as well.
big summary post on the hajnal line
*update below* i thought i’d do a big summary post on the hajnal line, just to have everything in once place. (^_^) sorry, there is no tl;dr, so go get yourself a cup of coffee. i’ll wa…
hbdchick.wordpress.com
The Medieval Catholic Church's stamping out of cousin marriage made Hajnal Europeans less inbred, less clannish, more universalistic, and possibly more inclined towards Wokeness as well.
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
Because it is not just a question of the individual. Diversity always leads to trouble - such as violence and societal breakdown. And there are also psychological and biological issues in having children with people who are too genetically distant, almost as many as having children with people who are too genetically close (look at ligers for a non-human example).