Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

ATP said:
Committe to re-elect Putin? why? he never was elected.In kgbstan you rule like khagan in old steppe hordes - as long as your commanders are happy.
Opinion of commonfolk never mattered,and common soldier could die,as long as plunder is delivered.
Since Putin delivered plunder,nobody from inner circle would kill him.

And ,provoke NATO to deliver weapons HAVE SENSE ONLY IF THEY PLAN TO ATTACK IN FEW YEARS.
Which not happen - either USA sell us again to Moscov,and then Putin do not need attack,or not,and then he do not dare to attack.

P.S killing their own people - kind of norm for russian army,since they could not communicte after attacking.So,could happen once to ukrainian,too.

P.S.S real reason why Putin would prolong war - kill russian army.They are only power which could made putch and save Mother Russia.
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Dude, seriously, whatever their faults and abilities the Putin people/KGB holdouts/Russia at large are not superhuman 90001D chess puppeteers.
They are neither the Reptilians nor the Illuminati.
Polandbros should just
 
Vaermina said:
Actually it shows the exact opposite...

Visual confirmation for enemy dead during an active conflict is going to be a single digit percentage of the actual deaths suffered by that enemy at best.
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They were only able to find death reports in Russian local news of less than 1100 Russian soldiers, which supports the ~1300 dead claim by the Russians and blows out of the water the claims by the Ukrainians and West about Russian losses. It isn't visual confirmation, it is based on death notices in all Russian media. They draw conclusions based on it, though some were silly, showing they have zero understanding of how casualties in larger wars actually work out.

To claim that that shows the exactly opposite shows what a fantasy land you're living in.
 
sillygoose said:
They were only able to find death reports in Russian local news of less than 1100 Russian soldiers, which supports the ~1300 dead claim by the Russians and blows out of the water the claims by the Ukrainians and West about Russian losses. It isn't visual confirmation, it is based on death notices in all Russian media. They draw conclusions based on it, though some were silly, showing they have zero understanding of how casualties in larger wars actually work out.

To claim that that shows the exactly opposite shows what a fantasy land you're living in.
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You... You realize you aren't helping your argument here?

Russian media is literally less then worthless here because it's illegal in Russia to print anything that goes against the party line.
 
Agent23 said:
Dude, seriously, whatever their faults and abilities the Putin people/KGB holdouts/Russia at large are not superhuman 90001D chess puppeteers.
They are neither the Reptilians nor the Illuminati.
Polandbros should just
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You claimed,that they decided to not win to let West pour weapons there,so KGB could destroy that.Seems like some Illuminati plan to me.

But - No,they are not.Probably they are idiots who are unable to win war they started and achieve anything except finally taking Marjupol in next month.But,i really want to belive,that it is part of secret KGB plot to ,if not take over Europe,at least destroy russian army.
Becouse i feared KGB for long time,and it would be sad if i feared idiots.
 
Vaermina said:
Because "Russia claims XYZ thing" is news?
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I'm not even sure what you're babbling about any more. BBC is aggregating Russian death notices in local papers.

Vaermina said:
Like... Russia has lost at least 2770 vehicles... Even ignoring the captured one's, the loss of drivers for the destroyed portion alone would put them above the number Russia is claiming...
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You mean that jackass who is just aggregating a bunch of unverified twitter posts? This is why you're not taken seriously by anyone but the Ukraini-stans.
 
Captain X said:
Ah shit, we have a "BMP of the Lake" now. :giggle:
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BMP of the Lake ehhh???

*eyes MS Paint warily*

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Don't ask him his War Predictions...
 
Arch Dornan said:
I trust they blew up arms shipments. If not this one then the previous times they did much as their own logistics getting fucked by the Ukranians.
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I mean.
Besides the fact that the ones transporting it and the country supplying it most likely know exactly where it is and why it isn't.
Obviously the Russians know all
 
Zachowon said:
I mean.
Besides the fact that the ones transporting it and the country supplying it most likely know exactly where it is and why it isn't.
Obviously the Russians know all
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So they all say their piece right until the Ukranians who do need it find out if it arrived intact or not.
 
Arch Dornan said:
It can still be destroyed even after safe delivery if those hypersonic missiles I heard of was true.
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What?
You mean the thing that no country has enough of out of prototype stage to actually use and going by how inaccurate the Ruskies seem to be would be a horrible idea?
 
Arch Dornan said:
It can still be destroyed even after safe delivery if those hypersonic missiles I heard of was true.
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I don't know what you've heard, but consider that if they did have them, in meaningful numbers, and they worked as advertised, then Russia shouldn't still be struggling with Ukrainian AA, nor should the Ukrainians still be operating an air force in even a limited capacity.

I mean, you say "It can still be destroyed" but the amount of time and difficulty it's taken for Russia to even do what they have would suggest it's not as simple as that.
 
Zachowon said:
What?
You mean the thing that no country has enough of out of prototype stage to actually use and going by how inaccurate the Ruskies seem to be would be a horrible idea?
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Megadeath said:
I don't know what you've heard, but consider that if they did have them, in meaningful numbers, and they worked as advertised, then Russia shouldn't still be struggling with Ukrainian AA, nor should the Ukrainians still be operating an air force in even a limited capacity.

I mean, you say "It can still be destroyed" but the amount of time and difficulty it's taken for Russia to even do what they have would suggest it's not as simple as that.
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If it's destroyed it's destroyed. If it's not it's not and the fighting will continue until it stops.

I listed the hypersonic missiles as a previous example of their attempt to destroy a supply shipment. Don't know about that success but it was reported to happen. Won't stop more shipments from coming in. Maybe they'll be destroyed too or reach their recipient successfully.
 
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Arch Dornan said:
If it's destroyed it's destroyed. If it's not it's not and the fighting will continue until it stops.

I listed the hypersonic missiles as a previous example of their attempt to destroy a supply shipment. Don't know about that success but it was reported to happen. Won't stop more shipments from coming in. Maybe they'll be destroyed too or reach their recipient successfully.
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The point I an making is using a Hypersonic missle is a waste and more sources say it is not destroyed
 
Zachowon said:
The point I an making is using a Hypersonic missle is a waste and more sources say it is not destroyed
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If it's a waste your government is working together with the British and Aussies on it.

So those sources claim but it wouldn't matter what I believe if it made it to them or not. More's coming.
 
Arch Dornan said:
If it's a waste your government is working together with the British and Aussies on it.

So those sources claim but it wouldn't matter what I believe if it made it to them or not. More's coming.
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What.
It is a WASTE as in to use one for such a stupid purpose.
Why waste something you don't have mass produced when they can be supplied with more of then then you can of the missle..
 
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