I mostly oppose Jewish settlements in the West Bank, but I make an exception for large Jewish settlements near Israel's borders. The Palestinians can get compensated for this with Israeli land in due time. Ideally as a part of a peace deal.
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I mostly oppose Jewish settlements in the West Bank, but I make an exception for large Jewish settlements near Israel's borders. The Palestinians can get compensated for this with Israeli land in due time. Ideally as a part of a peace deal.
As you can read, Palestinain leadership isn't, guess why.WolfBear said:
Tiny pieces of land are in the grand scheme of things of extremely little importance to solving any problems there. They are only used as a point of pride to try mess with other side's own political backing and to claim victories that don't change much really.
For example, no matter how many concessions in the tiny pieces of land department Israel gives, the other side still will be ruled by terrorist organizations who have a perverse incentive to keep the conflict alive.
There is no remotely realistic set of squiggly lines on the map that will significantly affect the political issues like that if agreed upon. Of course everyone who cheers for one side wants a set of squiggly lines that favors theirs, but that goes back to my point, just small victories that don't change much.
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There is a solution and its mass expulsions.
You go in with tanks, bulldozers and machine guns and you just kick the Palastinians out. They will never be capable of peace so you just accept that the left will hate you for a decade and rip the bandaid off. If they had done this during the 60s this would all have been over by now.
If Israelis thought like Russians, then this is probably what they would have done. Of course, this would have also resulted in Israelis getting sanctioned as heavily as Russians would, if not even more than the Russians.
Politically and practically, the best time for that was 1949 or failing that, after one of the later invasions. Now the politics for that may be to hard to stomach, not to mention the issue of *where* to expel them to.
Jordan?
And Yes, absolutely, Israel wasted a golden opportunity to do this in 1949. Not saying that this would have actually been moral, but still, 1949 was the best time to do this.
You aren't wrong, but this would have had to have happened decades ago to have been internationally acceptable.
As it is, the status quo isn't great, but it's easier to deal with the Palestianians after Israel and friends topple the Ayetollah, rather than before. Until the IRGC and Ayetollah are removed from power, no peace can be achieved in the whole Palestinian issue.
How stupid do you think Jordanian leadership is?
Well, there is always Syria if Assad will ever get overthrown. Israel could make a deal with the Syrian rebels to overthrow Assad in exchange for resettling Palestinian Arabs en masse in Syria, no?
A few decades before or a few decades from now.
This current era of feel good nonsense is ending fast and the mean times are coming back.
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Yes but Jews still have one more nation than Christian’s do which is none. There are no real Christian nations.
The vatacan.
As for christian nations I honestly think we are in for a major religious revival in several western countries with in our life spans.
In addition to the Vatican, there is always Uganda.
if you decide to do that.
Do's and Dont's
Don’t talk to women about their pregnancies. There is such a high death rate of unborn children that most women see it as disrespectful to talk about (Visiting).
Don’t discuss personal matters unless you are really good friends. People are very private (Greetings).
Don’t talk to others about their relationships with the opposite sex. There can be many misconceptions (Greetings).
Don’t show affection in public. For example, boyfriend and girlfriend cannot hold hands or kiss in public (Gestures).
Don’t wash or sanitize your hands in front of a Ugandan before you eat. It is seen as rude and makes them feel like they are unclean (Eating).
Do pray before the meal. It is expected that either the visitor or the leader to lead the prayers for the meal (Eating).
Do understand that kids will not talk at the table unless they are asked a specific question. While many people who come to Uganda believe that the children are just quite, truth be told, it is not respectful for them to talk at the table unless asked (Eating).
Do kiss and shake hands while greeting depending on the gender. If the gender is the opposite sex a hand shake will be fine. But, if the person is of the same sex, it is likely that they will kiss you on the cheek while you shake hands (Greeting).
Do eat on a mat. Since you are a visitor they will most likely offer you a chair to sit on during the meal, but out of respect for the culture, decline the offer and sit and eat on the mat (Eating).
Do wear shorts or skirts that are below the knees. In this culture, women are expected to wear skirts that are appropriate and modest (Visiting).
All of this is for Uganda, right?
With how many of you there are, and how many majority Christian nations there are, do you really need any? If you're sure you do, then find your balls and take some of them back like the Jews did in 1948.
Neither side can trust or politically afford to deal with the other even half as much as they need to. For starters there is no united "rebels" faction in Syria for Israel to make deals with, secondly a large part of them are as islamist as the Palestinians, so no deal to be made there, and if they did make a deal like that they would face a revolt in own ranks.
Yep; good point! Interestingly enough, I wonder if the increasing Shi'ization of Syria is actually a good thing:
Shia crescent - Wikipedia
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Its great for Assad and Iran. For everyone else, depends on where you stand on Assad and Iran.Yep; good point! Interestingly enough, I wonder if the increasing Shi'ization of Syria is actually a good thing:
Shia crescent - Wikipedia
I don't like the Iranian regime due to its oppression of its own people but I also don't like Iran's rival Saudi Arabia due to its extremely brutal war in Yemen. So, where exactly would I myself stand in regards to this?
I also fear that removing Assad could result in something much worse than Assad himself is:
