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ATP

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Sounds like a leftist...
Aaaaand of course i'm right:
His views before leftism:

His views after spending some years in leftist party quoted by you...
People, don't do leftism, see what will happen to you?
A leftist hating his own country, what a bloody surprise...
All political parties in Izrael are leftists.They only fight over how much they should steal from Palestine.

And,you forget his reasons for changing opinion:

In 2023 however, Levin made headlines for speaking at a protest against proposed judicial reforms. At an interview a day later, he compared Israel to Nazi Germany and said "there is apartheid in Judea and Samaria, the IDF has started being complicit in war crimes, they stand on the sidelines and watch the hilltop youth terrorize the Palestinians and do nothing. The IDF has rotted from the core." He later added "there hasn't been democracy in Judea and Samaria in 57 years. These people (referring to the settlers) do not know what democracy is. They are now rotting the Israeli society from within. These parties (referring to Jewish Power, Religious Zionism, and Noam) now have a majority in Parliament and Netanyahu is responsible for giving them power. He gave the keys to criminals who never served in the IDF, people that in a functioning country would have been behind bars are now in charge of the police." The interviewer then quoted an infamous speech made by former military general Yair Golan who compared Israel to Nazi Germany and asked Levin if he agreed with his statements. "Of course", Levin replied, "walk around Hebron and you will see streets where Palestinians aren't allowed to be in. It hurts to say this but that's the reality. Better to accept it than to ignore that it is happening".[11]

He do not care about palestinians - but about Izrael army which become more thuggish.Thanks to thuggs like Natanjahu taking power.
 

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All political parties in Izrael are leftists.They only fight over how much they should steal from Palestine.
Thanks for admitting you don't know what you are talking about just to make some childish dig at Israel.
And,you forget his reasons for changing opinion:

In 2023 however, Levin made headlines for speaking at a protest against proposed judicial reforms. At an interview a day later, he compared Israel to Nazi Germany and said "there is apartheid in Judea and Samaria, the IDF has started being complicit in war crimes, they stand on the sidelines and watch the hilltop youth terrorize the Palestinians and do nothing. The IDF has rotted from the core." He later added "there hasn't been democracy in Judea and Samaria in 57 years. These people (referring to the settlers) do not know what democracy is. They are now rotting the Israeli society from within. These parties (referring to Jewish Power, Religious Zionism, and Noam) now have a majority in Parliament and Netanyahu is responsible for giving them power. He gave the keys to criminals who never served in the IDF, people that in a functioning country would have been behind bars are now in charge of the police." The interviewer then quoted an infamous speech made by former military general Yair Golan who compared Israel to Nazi Germany and asked Levin if he agreed with his statements. "Of course", Levin replied, "walk around Hebron and you will see streets where Palestinians aren't allowed to be in. It hurts to say this but that's the reality. Better to accept it than to ignore that it is happening".[11]

He do not care about palestinians - but about Izrael army which become more thuggish.Thanks to thuggs like Natanjahu taking power.
Yeah, of course he would say that. Ask our local young New Left people about Konfederacja, and they will say similar things.
 

ATP

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Thanks for admitting you don't know what you are talking about just to make some childish dig at Israel.

Yeah, of course he would say that. Ask our local young New Left people about Konfederacja, and they will say similar things.
Tell me,which one among their parties support free market?

And,back to Izrael - franciscian Francesco Patton from Jeruzalem told about constant attacks on christians.
jewish tv show Jezus as crificied monkey.Here:

Epstein,except contacts with Mossad,have very good contacts with Robert Maxwell children - probably Mossad agent.

Jewish ex-president,Ruwen riwlin,accused Poland of helping germans in Holocaust - he lied like that in 2018,too.

Jewish bandit,who attacked polish ambassador in Jeruzalem ,Marek Magierowski in polish embassy,was arrested,and....set free,becouse he said that he do not knew that he is attacking ambassador,and that he is sorry.

Interesting,what would happen if somebody come and hit jewish ambassador in,let say,USA....
 

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Tell me,which one among their parties support free market?
Probably the ones in charge...
Judging by how it scores higher on economic freedom than we do.
And,back to Izrael - franciscian Francesco Patton from Jeruzalem told about constant attacks on christians.
jewish tv show Jezus as crificied monkey.Here:

Epstein,except contacts with Mossad,have very good contacts with Robert Maxwell children - probably Mossad agent.

Jewish ex-president,Ruwen riwlin,accused Poland of helping germans in Holocaust - he lied like that in 2018,too.
So random people being assholes and conspiracy theories, whatever.
Jewish bandit,who attacked polish ambassador in Jeruzalem ,Marek Magierowski in polish embassy,was arrested,and....set free,becouse he said that he do not knew that he is attacking ambassador,and that he is sorry.

Interesting,what would happen if somebody come and hit jewish ambassador in,let say,USA....
By now you should know better than to throw fake news at me like that.
He wasn't set free. He was put under house arrest, charged and convicted for assault. He also apologized. What more do you want, a hanging?
 

King Arts

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Probably the ones in charge...
Judging by how it scores higher on economic freedom than we do.

So random people being assholes and conspiracy theories, whatever.

By now you should know better than to throw fake news at me like that.
He wasn't set free. He was put under house arrest, charged and convicted for assault. He also apologized. What more do you want, a hanging?
You shouldn’t kneel before silly statistics like the “economic freedom index” I mean it put the Nordic nations above the US. It’s a leftists wet dream if someone here came out in support of Nordic welfare model you’d call them a socialist.
 
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Marduk

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You shouldn’t kneel before silly statistics like the “economic freedom index” I mean it put the Nordic nations above the US. It’s a leftists wet dream if someone here came out in support of Nordic welfare model you’d call them a socialist.
Nordic welfare model is combined with low by EU standards economic regulation beyond taxation helping fund it, it's a kinda trick that has allowed it to work as far as it did. If they didn't have that, they would be joining PIGS decades ago.
In other metrics, Israel is also far from the worst in those terms, with what a massive tech startup center it is.
 

King Arts

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Nordic welfare model is combined with low by EU standards economic regulation beyond taxation helping fund it, it's a kinda trick that has allowed it to work as far as it did. If they didn't have that, they would be joining PIGS decades ago.
In other metrics, Israel is also far from the worst in those terms, with what a massive tech startup center it is.
PIGS?
Anyway ok so what then copy that low regulation on companies but high taxes we could do that as everyone needs to do business with America much more than Sweden.
 

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PIGS?
Anyway ok so what then copy that low regulation on companies but high taxes we could do that as everyone needs to do business with America much more than Sweden.
Some states already go that direction to one degree or another. It also works to one degree or another. Usually lower one as high tax governments generally struggle to keep their fingers out of regulation for long. It's not something that can be copypasted well on the basis of two variables. And one of the other variables is time...
 
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King Arts

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Some states already go that direction to one degree or another. It also works to one degree or another. Usually lower one as high tax governments generally struggle to keep their fingers out of regulation for long. It's not something that can be copypasted well on the basis of two variables. And one of the other variables is time...
But Ireland is high on that economic freedom chart.
 

ATP

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Probably the ones in charge...
Judging by how it scores higher on economic freedom than we do.
Poland was ruled by socialists,and now by german agent.What do you expected? freedom for poles?
So random people being assholes and conspiracy theories, whatever.
Random people being assholes and never get punished.
By now you should know better than to throw fake news at me like that.
He wasn't set free. He was put under house arrest, charged and convicted for assault. He also apologized. What more do you want, a hanging?
If you go to Embassy of Izrael and hit ambassador there,would house arrest and apology be enough?
Assuming,that you would be still alive.

Now,compilation of articles from few polish newspapers:

1.Jewish ambassador in Poland ,Yacov Livine,was angry becouse of poles with polish banners near Auschwitz,suggesting on X in english that germans do not kill poles there.

Which,of course,is lie,germans made it for us in 1940,and first murdered was poles.Jews joined later.
Both ruling germans and eunuch opposition did notching.

2.i read about Chanuka origin - apparently,it become celebrated as we knew it after romans destroyed Temple,and is about celebrating holocaust of jews who was purged becouse they were nogood belivers.
Fun thing - the same people who support it are against Inquisition....

3.There are gas deposits under sea near Gaza - bigger named Leviathan.Entire war could be about control over it.

4.Chabad lubawicz,racist jewish sect,have people in USA elites - Ari Fleisher,Paul Wolfowitz,Joseph Lieberman,Dov Zakheim.
the same sect is responsible for tunnel in NY.

5.I arleady told about Ruwen Riwin lies here - but,apparently he claimed speaking with Jonny Gould,that we were occupied by germans,but still butchered jews.
And,he arleady lied like that in 2020.

6.Natanjahu lied in 2019,that we helped germans during Holocaust.

7.Current Izrael Foreign Minister,Israel Katz,said the same - and add,that antisemitism is inbred among us - and forget mention jewish police and Judenrats helping germans.

8.Rabin Szalom Ber Stampler from Chabad Lubawicz asked about jewish traitors said,that we should not speak about them.
But,for Chabad Lubawicz jews have more rights then goim.


9.In Izrael jews who helped germans kill other jews were never punished - and now,they claim that we are quilty for german crimes and must pay.
 

Marduk

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Poland was ruled by socialists,and now by german agent.What do you expected? freedom for poles?
And yet we aren't that low in the ranking either, so get a fucking sense of proportion.
Random people being assholes and never get punished.
I just fucking shown you he did get punished, as i said, wtf do you want, a hanging?
If you go to Embassy of Izrael and hit ambassador there,would house arrest and apology be enough?
Assuming,that you would be still alive.
Yeah, sure, whatever. Just because western journos are retarded about such things we can't act as if it is outrageous that some other countries have less retarded ones.
Now,compilation of articles from few polish newspapers:

1.Jewish ambassador in Poland ,Yacov Livine,was angry becouse of poles with polish banners near Auschwitz,suggesting on X in english that germans do not kill poles there.
So? I can be angry because you post stupid shit here and represent our nation poorly.
Which,of course,is lie,germans made it for us in 1940,and first murdered was poles.Jews joined later.
Both ruling germans and eunuch opposition did notching.
Again, leftists hate us. Leftists hate all European nations really. Jewish leftists hate all of the above too. What's the shock or surprise here.
2.i read about Chanuka origin - apparently,it become celebrated as we knew it after romans destroyed Temple,and is about celebrating holocaust of jews who was purged becouse they were nogood belivers.
Fun thing - the same people who support it are against Inquisition....
Whatever.
3.There are gas deposits under sea near Gaza - bigger named Leviathan.Entire war could be about control over it.
Sure, whatever, do i need to mentioned how much gas Poland has if you took random journo clickbait at face value? We should be oil barons by now.
4.Chabad lubawicz,racist jewish sect,have people in USA elites - Ari Fleisher,Paul Wolfowitz,Joseph Lieberman,Dov Zakheim.
the same sect is responsible for tunnel in NY.

5.I arleady told about Ruwen Riwin lies here - but,apparently he claimed speaking with Jonny Gould,that we were occupied by germans,but still butchered jews.
And,he arleady lied like that in 2020.
Whatever, conspiracy crap, don't care.
6.Natanjahu lied in 2019,that we helped germans during Holocaust.
I don't know which journo wrote your version, and it's your fault for eating it up because of course you do, but we can never hate journos enough.
7.Current Izrael Foreign Minister,Israel Katz,said the same - and add,that antisemitism is inbred among us - and forget mention jewish police and Judenrats helping germans.
So? Aren't Jews allowed to have crazy idiots? Are we supposed to have a monopoly on those? Sorry, i don't want it, or them.
8.Rabin Szalom Ber Stampler from Chabad Lubawicz asked about jewish traitors said,that we should not speak about them.
But,for Chabad Lubawicz jews have more rights then goim.
As above.
9.In Izrael jews who helped germans kill other jews were never punished - and now,they claim that we are quilty for german crimes and must pay.
Not "they", leftist Jew activists who want to grift money for more leftist activism.
Also Soros was afraid to visit Israel:
 

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Some states already go that direction to one degree or another. It also works to one degree or another. Usually lower one as high tax governments generally struggle to keep their fingers out of regulation for long. It's not something that can be copypasted well on the basis of two variables. And one of the other variables is time...
When was this ?
 

ATP

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And yet we aren't that low in the ranking either, so get a fucking sense of proportion.
Yes,we are straight for the cripple.
I just fucking shown you he did get punished, as i said, wtf do you want, a hanging?
Attack on Embassy should be punished more then house arrest
Yeah, sure, whatever. Just because western journos are retarded about such things we can't act as if it is outrageous that some other countries have less retarded ones.
No,i demand to be treated exactly the same like Izrael.Not better,but not worst,too.
So? I can be angry because you post stupid shit here and represent our nation poorly.
I am not polish ambassador.If jewish ambassador lie that poles do not die in Auschwitz,it is attack of state Izrael on Poland.
Again, leftists hate us. Leftists hate all European nations really. Jewish leftists hate all of the above too. What's the shock or surprise here.
There are no leftist here,only Izrael hating us.They decide to be our enemy,stop pretending that it is rain where they spit on us another time.
Whatever.
Truth.The same dudes who are happy that ancient jews butchered jews who do not belive good enough ,are condemning Inquisition,which,basically,did the same to christians - but less bloody,and their victims have advocates.
Sure, whatever, do i need to mentioned how much gas Poland has if you took random journo clickbait at face value? We should be oil barons by now.
We should.Putin put big effort into closing that possibility.
Whatever, conspiracy crap, don't care.
That is what he said - that poles butchered jews under german occupation.Interesting ,why germans killed those who hide jews with their families,instead of giving them some vodka for every killed jew?

I don't know which journo wrote your version, and it's your fault for eating it up because of course you do, but we can never hate journos enough.
You again do not read article.They still claim,that we killed jews,only not as state.Well,the same is true for jews - Judenrat and jewish police helped kill their own people.
And,it was official jewish authorities,not some hobos.
So? Aren't Jews allowed to have crazy idiots? Are we supposed to have a monopoly on those? Sorry, i don't want it, or them.
In Poland Crazy idiots are not ministers.Well,now they are,but they still do not lie about jews.
As above.
There is no polish catholic group who belive,that poles are superhumans,and everybody else underhuman.
When Chabad kubawicz belive that about jews.
Not "they", leftist Jew activists who want to grift money for more leftist activism.
Also Soros was afraid to visit Israel:
No leftist,Izrael as state.After 1948 they never ever punished jews who helped germans kill other jews.Now,they blame us for their crimes.


Now,back to topic - Izrael minister Itamar Ben Gewir said 28.1.2024,that Gaza must be settled by jews.Jewish terrorist Daniela Weiss joined him and said,that palestinians would leave if they have notching to eat.

Where palestinians should go from their land? Africa,artifical island,EU.All impssible for various reasons.

But,there is hope - Gewir have almost no support now,he never served in military,and elections would be win by parties of Bennego Gantza and Gadi Eisenkot - both were generals,and condemned Gewir genocidal ideas.

There are still problems - for example,when IDF soldiers schoot 3 hostages with white banner,they did it becouse they thought,that they are palestinians - they see banner very well.
 

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Attack on Embassy should be punished more then house arrest
Stop making it sound like he threw punches or something, you are being worse than a journo with the terms switching.
No,i demand to be treated exactly the same like Izrael.Not better,but not worst,too.
By who? By Muslims? We would have to kill a lot of migrants for that.
I am not polish ambassador.If jewish ambassador lie that poles do not die in Auschwitz,it is attack of state Izrael on Poland.
No, it is an ambassador being a clown, there are procedures to deal with that.
There are no leftist here,only Izrael hating us.They decide to be our enemy,stop pretending that it is rain where they spit on us another time.
German leftists hate us, Russian leftists hate us, and most obviously our local Polish leftists hate us especially, do i need to go on, can you deny it?
All leftists are our enemy, there's nothing special about the Jewish ones.
Truth.The same dudes who are happy that ancient jews butchered jews who do not belive good enough ,are condemning Inquisition,which,basically,did the same to christians - but less bloody,and their victims have advocates.
We don't care what ancient Jews did with other Jews, obviously Inquisition is more recent and more relevant to the Christians involved.
We should.Putin put big effort into closing that possibility.
By remaking our geology? Making more threats? Who cares about those anymore?
That is what he said - that poles butchered jews under german occupation.Interesting ,why germans killed those who hide jews with their families,instead of giving them some vodka for every killed jew?
Don't clown around, obviously those weren't the same Poles. Obviously someone will point to some bandits or far right who did hate Jews and in wartime laws don't really apply, but that's basically bullshit politics, in the same vein you associate Jews with commies because some were commies, while many others wanted nothing to do with them.
You again do not read article.They still claim,that we killed jews,only not as state.Well,the same is true for jews - Judenrat and jewish police helped kill their own people.
And,it was official jewish authorities,not some hobos.
How are these things contradictory?
In Poland Crazy idiots are not ministers.Well,now they are,but they still do not lie about jews.
So you see, they lie and clown around about whatever they feel like, nothing special there.
There is no polish catholic group who belive,that poles are superhumans,and everybody else underhuman.
When Chabad kubawicz belive that about jews.
Who gives a fuck about what some international chasidic sect believes. There's like 200k of them over the world. There's more atheists in Israel than that, so atheists represent Israel more than them.
No leftist,Izrael as state.After 1948 they never ever punished jews who helped germans kill other jews.Now,they blame us for their crimes.
Soros literally said he's afraid to visit Israel.
Now,back to topic - Izrael minister Itamar Ben Gewir said 28.1.2024,that Gaza must be settled by jews.Jewish terrorist Daniela Weiss joined him and said,that palestinians would leave if they have notching to eat.
So? Politicians making overstated threats and lying to get votes? Who could have imagined that?
And if it was true, what do we care about some Arab Islamists? Are they our allies like the leftists think?
Where palestinians should go from their land? Africa,artifical island,EU.All impssible for various reasons.
There are no Palestinians, there are only Arabs under another name. They got the land in conquest and no one cared, so why should we care if they lose it to conquest by one of earlier owners.
So they should go to Arabia. You know what, the Houthis in Yemen really virtue signal about how much they care about Palestinians and attack international shipping over it, it's on Arabian Peninsula and they love them apparently, want to go to war with half the world for them, so why not send them there, to their brothers, that's asking less than what they are doing.
But,there is hope - Gewir have almost no support now,he never served in military,and elections would be win by parties of Bennego Gantza and Gadi Eisenkot - both were generals,and condemned Gewir genocidal ideas.
When did he ever had much support? His last result was 5% and it was his best.
There are still problems - for example,when IDF soldiers schoot 3 hostages with white banner,they did it becouse they thought,that they are palestinians - they see banner very well.
Trigger happy conscripts after hearing about some fake surrenders by terrorists with grenades or explosive belts.
 

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