Israel 🇮🇱 State of Israel Thread

[Marduk]

This is all true, of course we still live in a somewhat feudal era in many ways, we have regressed back into state-on-state warfare ever since the wars against terrorism in the 1990's and 2000's.

>regressed
From what? Just because you don't pay attention to wars that get less media attention or you didn't learn history of doesn't mean they didn't happen.

We clearly need an alternative to mainstream corporate globalists if we're going to be able to properly defend ourselves should any of us ever find ourselves in the crosshairs of an insane government.

Chances are it will be just a worse version of the same problem.

 

[King Arts]

Because the federal government would take advantage of tje complacent right and the ones who push the right to not join the military making it more and more leftist.
Because all it takes is them to call in for UN support saying they want to overthrow and that we need peacekeepers.
Then we get blue helmets patrolling the south
Then shots get fired, and civil war.
Welcome to what the globalists want

Yes because it’s not like you also don’t want to police the south. You may try to deflect with the posse commitatus act but the army is totally willing to be deployed state side to obey and enforce the globalist and neo con wises.

 

[Captain X]

So all you have to say is
"Muh conservatives is weaker than libs."
Tell me why can't we police lib places instead?

Wow, you really are just a troll, aren't you? I really don't understand why people bother to engage with you. Everything you post it's basically with the express purpose of riling people up and being a contrarian. You derail thread after thread and make it all about you.

 

[King Arts]

Wow, you really are just a troll, aren't you? I really don't understand why people bother to engage with you. Everything you post it's basically with the express purpose of riling people up and being a contrarian. You derail thread after thread and make it all about you.

How is this about me in any way?

 

[ATP]

Greater Israel is impossible. Anyone crowing about creating a Greater Israel is a clown to be ignored or laughed at. Israel has no more power projection than Iran. Iran and Israel can exchange fire, but that's about the extent of it, beyond Iranian proxies in Yemen, Iraq, Lebanon and Gaza there isn't much Iran can do to Israel, and vice versa.

Of course,but Chabad Lubowicz nutjobs still want it.And Bibi is influenced by them.Thanks God,Trump would not support their madness.

 

[RenegadeInterrupt]

I thought this video was fascinating, it's about Israel-Palestine but there's a lot in there about conservatism vs. liberalism in general.

 

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[ATP]

Hamas? i could safely bet that every bigger muslim community have such stockpiles.Well,maybe except Kurds.They,for some reasons,like jews.

 

[SoliFortissimi]

They,for some reasons,like jews.

The enemy of my enemy is....still an enemy, but one I can fight later.

So all you have to say is
"Muh conservatives is weaker than libs."
Tell me why can't we police lib places instead?

Because the reactionary's entire self-identity is founded upon an inferiority complex.

It's why I refuse to be grouped with them. They're not conservatives just because they hate the left. And as I noted above, an enemy of my enemy is still my enemy.

 

[ATP]

The enemy of my enemy is....still an enemy, but one I can fight later.

Because the reactionary's entire self-identity is founded upon an inferiority complex.

It's why I refuse to be grouped with them. They're not conservatives just because they hate the left. And as I noted above, an enemy of my enemy is still my enemy.

reactionary...carefull,you use commie world for their enemies.And using their worlds coud lead you to become commie,too.
So called "reactionary" people were just normies who wonted live free.

 

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[TheRejectionist]

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Haaretz is reliable as much as CNN and CBS and BBC.

Could be it real? Certainly, but anyone should take it with a punch of salt.

 

[filipina84]

Haaretz is reliable as much as CNN and CBS and BBC.

Could be it real? Certainly, but anyone should take it with a punch of salt.

Good question. Need to wait and see if we'll eventually see normalization of diplomatic relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel.

 

[ATP]

Everybody knew,that Izrael gave Gaza to Hamas.

But,not everybody knew,that they gave power to Hezbollah in Liban,too.
Till 1982 local shia supported Amal party,which fought sunni muslim,not christians or jews.But after Izrael aggression,Iran supported more radical leaders who created Hezbollah - and ,they take over shia population there.
Even Ehud Barak must agreed to that.

Here:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://yalibnan.com/2018/05/12/ehud-barak-blames-hezbollah-creation-on-israeli-prolonged-occupation-of-lebanon/&ved=2ahUKEwjK1bTMk4eLAxUWJhAIHadGD7kQFnoECCwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw29EZ_RvN2cBlzsy1qon_Zg

Why they are doing so? well,rector of armenian University in Bejrut,Paul Haidostian explain it -
Izrael pretend to be only "western" country in Middle East,so they must destroy Lebannon.
Which they practically did.

 

[Marduk]

Everybody knew,that Izrael gave Gaza to Hamas.

But,not everybody knew,that they gave power to Hezbollah in Liban,too.
Till 1982 local shia supported Amal party,which fought sunni muslim,not christians or jews.But after Izrael aggression,Iran supported more radical leaders who created Hezbollah - and ,they take over shia population there.
Even Ehud Barak must agreed to that.

Here:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://yalibnan.com/2018/05/12/ehud-barak-blames-hezbollah-creation-on-israeli-prolonged-occupation-of-lebanon/&ved=2ahUKEwjK1bTMk4eLAxUWJhAIHadGD7kQFnoECCwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw29EZ_RvN2cBlzsy1qon_Zg

Why they are doing so? well,rector of armenian University in Bejrut,Paul Haidostian explain it -
Izrael pretend to be only "western" country in Middle East,so they must destroy Lebannon.
Which they practically did.

Just a reminder how full of shit this guy is with whitewashing Amal:

Lebanese Resistance Regiments - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

ʾAmal which means "Hope", were the military wing of the Amal Movement, a political organization representing the Muslim Shia community of Lebanon.

Fuck off to Iran if you love Shia islamism so much.
This is all you need to know:

Ideology	Lebanese nationalism[4] Patriotism[4] Militarism[4] Big Tent[5] Anti-imperialism[3] Anti-Zionism[3] Factions: Shia Islamism[1] Jihadism[6] Islamic nationalism[7][8] Arab nationalism[9][10] Sectarianism[11][12] pro-Khomeinism[13]
Slogan	To struggle against oppression (Tagline)[14]
Status	Disbanded
Size	16,000 fighters
Part of	Amal Movement Front of Patriotic and National Parties (FPNP)
Allies	Lebanese National Movement (LNM) Lebanese Arab Army (LAA) Popular Nasserist Organization (PNO) Progressive Socialist Party (PSP)/ People's Liberation Army (PLA) Lebanese Communist Party (LCP)/Popular Guard Toilers League Zgharta Liberation Army (ZLA) Syrian Social Nationalist Party (SSNP) Syrian Arab Armed Forces

>shia islamists
>jihadists
>communists
>social nationalists ;D
It's almost a perfect league of all scum.

 

[ATP]

Just a reminder how full of shit this guy is with whitewashing Amal:

Lebanese Resistance Regiments - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Fuck off to Iran if you love Shia islamism so much.
This is all you need to know:

Ideology	Lebanese nationalism[4] Patriotism[4] Militarism[4] Big Tent[5] Anti-imperialism[3] Anti-Zionism[3] Factions: Shia Islamism[1] Jihadism[6] Islamic nationalism[7][8] Arab nationalism[9][10] Sectarianism[11][12] pro-Khomeinism[13]
Slogan	To struggle against oppression (Tagline)[14]
Status	Disbanded
Size	16,000 fighters
Part of	Amal Movement Front of Patriotic and National Parties (FPNP)
Allies	Lebanese National Movement (LNM) Lebanese Arab Army (LAA) Popular Nasserist Organization (PNO) Progressive Socialist Party (PSP)/ People's Liberation Army (PLA) Lebanese Communist Party (LCP)/Popular Guard Toilers League Zgharta Liberation Army (ZLA) Syrian Social Nationalist Party (SSNP) Syrian Arab Armed Forces

>shia islamists
>jihadists
>communists
>social nationalists ;D
It's almost a perfect league of all scum.

Yup,you are full of shit,indeed.Did you ever read wiki you citated?
Here:
At its zenith, the militia had 14,000 troops. Amal fought a long campaign against Palestinian refugees during the Lebanese Civil War (called the War of the Camps). After the War of the Camps, Amal fought a bloody battle against rival Shi'a group Hezbollah for control of Beirut, which provoked Syrian military intervention. Hezbollah itself was formed by religious members of Amal who had left after Nabih Berri's assumption of full control and the subsequent resignation of most of Amal's earliest senior members.

In other worlds,they fought palestinians and later their rivals from Hezbollah,not jews.

 

[Marduk]

Yup,you are full of shit,indeed.Did you ever read wiki you citated?
Here:
At its zenith, the militia had 14,000 troops. Amal fought a long campaign against Palestinian refugees during the Lebanese Civil War (called the War of the Camps). After the War of the Camps, Amal fought a bloody battle against rival Shi'a group Hezbollah for control of Beirut, which provoked Syrian military intervention. Hezbollah itself was formed by religious members of Amal who had left after Nabih Berri's assumption of full control and the subsequent resignation of most of Amal's earliest senior members.

In other worlds,they fought palestinians and later their rivals from Hezbollah,not jews.

So?
Who cares that all the scum fought each other over who shall rule the world of scum, that doesn't make any of them good. Communists and Nazis fought each other too, same thing.

 

[Scottty]

So?
Who cares that all the scum fought each other over who shall rule the world of scum, that doesn't make any of them good. Communists and Nazis fought each other too, same thing.

Who they are fighting and why, is of more practical importance than any moral judgement you want to make of them.

 

[Marduk]

Who they are fighting and why, is of more practical importance than any moral judgement you want to make of them.

And yet it is also a great way to fool yourself that your enemies are your allies because of who they are fighting at the moment.
Which is exactly what some people are begging to do.

 

[Scottty]

And yet it is also a great way to fool yourself that your enemies are your allies because of who they are fighting at the moment.
Which is exactly what some people are begging to do.

Being good people, and being your allies, are not the same thing at all.