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TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
I am glad he is doing horrible.
Make war happen sooner China
I dislike China as much as anyone here but do you realize that Afghanistan is going to look like a cakewalk and both SK and Japan are going to turn into charcoal? You probably going to say goodbye to Hawaii at best.
Sure you can glass the entirety of coastal China but you will have to deal with the consequences of radioactivity, refugees and starvation and civil wars.
Or for better, the rest of the world will have to suffer the consequences just like the last 70 years of US diplomacy.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
I am glad he is doing horrible.
Make war happen sooner China

In addition to what @TheRejectionist wrote, your posts throughout the years make you come across as someone who actively wants everything to crash and burn on your political opponents’ watch — and would gladly sacrifice the lives and livelihoods of millions to do it. Seriously, that’s the same behavior as the Woke lunatics who clamored for Trump to “Bring on the Recession!” out of pure spite a few years back.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
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I dislike China as much as anyone here but do you realize that Afghanistan is going to look like a cakewalk and both SK and Japan are going to turn into charcoal? You probably going to say goodbye to Hawaii at best.
Sure you can glass the entirety of coastal China but you will have to deal with the consequences of radioactivity, refugees and starvation and civil wars.
Or for better, the rest of the world will have to suffer the consequences just like the last 70 years of US diplomacy.
And why the hell do you think I advocate for a land war in East Asia?
I am advocating for watching the Chinese collapse in on itself when they try to invade Taiwan.
In addition to what @TheRejectionist wrote, your posts throughout the years make you come across as someone who actively wants everything to crash and burn on your political opponents’ watch — and would gladly sacrifice the lives and livelihoods of millions to do it. Seriously, that’s the same behavior as the Woke lunatics who clamored for Trump to “Bring on the Recession!” out of pure spite a few years back.
Because I am a United States Soldier who is a warmonger as he wants to see war in LSCO because I signed up to fight not to be at peace.
 

Cherico

Well-known member
And why the hell do you think I advocate for a land war in East Asia?
I am advocating for watching the Chinese collapse in on itself when they try to invade Taiwan.

Because I am a United States Soldier who is a warmonger as he wants to see war in LSCO because I signed up to fight not to be at peace.

I have known people who have fought in wars, in the second world war, in vietnam, in both gulf wars. I really honestly hope your wish is not granted. I hope you live a long life with people who love you and die at an old age surrounded by children and grandchildren who cry as you pass on to the next world.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
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I have known people who have fought in wars, in the second world war, in vietnam, in both gulf wars. I really honestly hope your wish is not granted. I hope you live a long life with people who love you and die at an old age surrounded by children and grandchildren who cry as you pass on to the next world.
Wanting war is nothing new to humans.
One of the most badass humans known?
Dude joined and fought in the fucking boer wars, then ww1, then ww2.
Dude wanted war snd enjoyed it.
I can want something.
We all want something, and I want to show the world the unmistakable might of the US Military
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Wanting war is nothing new to humans.
One of the most badass humans known?
Dude joined and fought in the fucking boer wars, then ww1, then ww2.
Dude wanted war snd enjoyed it.
I can want something.
We all want something, and I want to show the world the unmistakable might of the US Military

Just because someone “Wants something!” or that it’s “Nothing new to humans!” doesn’t mean their wish should be granted, much less that their judgment is solid. After all, I’m sure quite a few Russian soldiers wanted to launch the War in Ukraine, too, but that sure didn’t make it righteous or excuse any of their behavior.

And again, you still “innocently” gloss over how your desire for war would kill tens (if not hundreds) of millions of people, quite a few of them your fellow servicemen in the event of a land war. Fortunately, I doubt you’re in a position to make that happen, though whoever the next Hitler is, they’re probably someone who actually does want World War III along the lines of what you fantasize.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
And why the hell do you think I advocate for a land war in East Asia?
I am advocating for watching the Chinese collapse in on itself when they try to invade Taiwan.
Because that's what it would entail in the end. Biden or whoever succeeds him (with the only possible exception of Trump) will send you and your buddies to a new Vietnam. Which in turn means you drag the rest of NATO members , regardless of who shot first, directly or indirectly towards that. And for what ? So that you might have a temporary satellite like Afghanistan where your "supposedly allied" troops of locals can inject or smoke opioids and indulge in stuff like depravity against minors as many the Afghan National Army did under the last three US presidencies?
Just because someone “Wants something!” or that it’s “Nothing new to humans!” doesn’t mean their wish should be granted, much less that their judgment is solid. After all, I’m sure quite a few Russian soldiers wanted to launch the War in Ukraine, too, but that sure didn’t make it righteous or excuse any of their behavior.

And again, you still “innocently” gloss over how your desire for war would kill tens (if not hundreds) of millions of people, quite a few of them your fellow servicemen in the event of a land war. Fortunately, I doubt you’re in a position to make that happen, though whoever the next Hitler is, they’re probably someone who actually does want World War III along the lines of what you fantasize.
I have known people who have fought in wars, in the second world war, in vietnam, in both gulf wars. I really honestly hope your wish is not granted. I hope you live a long life with people who love you and die at an old age surrounded by children and grandchildren who cry as you pass on to the next world.
If his wish is fullfilled The Sietch will be vaporized just like anything east of the Straits. I rather keep the forum alive in the literal sense of the word and not being atomic glass. Frankly no country would go unscathed one way or another.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Because that's what it would entail in the end. Biden or whoever succeeds him (with the only possible exception of Trump) will send you and your buddies to a new Vietnam. Which in turn means you drag the rest of NATO members , regardless of who shot first, directly or indirectly towards that. And for what ? So that you might have a temporary satellite like Afghanistan where your "supposedly allied" troops of locals can inject or smoke opioids and indulge in stuff like depravity against minors as many the Afghan National Army did under the last three US presidencies?


If his wish is fullfilled The Sietch will be vaporized just like anything east of the Straits. I rather keep the forum alive in the literal sense of the word and not being atomic glass. Frankly no country would go unscathed one way or another.

To be frank, I think we’d be looking at something more akin to World War III with side orders of Afghanistan and Vietnam, if Zach somehow got what he wanted.

Certainly, you’d be looking at draft-dodging and demonstrations at home like we’ve never seen before, as well as mass-mutinies and refusals to fight that threaten to tear the military and broader country apart. At which point, I think even the usual suspects (read: Neocons) would start to distance themselves, when they realize it’s more than just civilians with no say over military affairs who’re rebelling.

Doesn’t help that Zach’s last few posts (and in fact, his posts throughout the years) are so blasé about starting world-ending wars with real consequences for hundreds of millions of real people, either. Really, if you wanted me to show why more Americans distrust the Neocons and their warped sense of judgment so much, @Zachowon is Exhibit A.
 

ATP

Well-known member
Wanting war is nothing new to humans.
One of the most badass humans known?
Dude joined and fought in the fucking boer wars, then ww1, then ww2.
Dude wanted war snd enjoyed it.
I can want something.
We all want something, and I want to show the world the unmistakable might of the US Military
If you think about Churchill,then he never fought - in boer war was prisoner,and in WW1 and WW2 send oters to die.
Do not risking anytching.
I could be such "heroe",too.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
To be frank, I think we’d be looking at something more akin to World War III with side orders of Afghanistan and Vietnam, if Zach somehow got what he wanted.

Certainly, you’d be looking at draft-dodging and demonstrations at home like we’ve never seen before, as well as mass-mutinies and refusals to fight that threaten to tear the military and broader country apart. At which point, I think even the usual suspects (read: Neocons) would start to distance themselves, when they realize it’s more than just civilians with no say over military affairs who’re rebelling.

Doesn’t help that Zach’s last few posts (and in fact, his posts throughout the years) are so blasé about starting world-ending wars with real consequences for hundreds of millions of real people, either. Really, if you wanted me to show why more Americans distrust the Neocons and their warped sense of judgment so much, @Zachowon is Exhibit A.
Zach cannot accept that the US public has no taste for what he wants to have happen, and that his desire to show how 'mighty' the US is just underscores how insecure parts of the US military are about being in peace time after what happened in A-stan.

The US will be supplying weapons to places like Ukraine that need military gear, that's not in doubt, but he really doesn't get that most of the US populace doesn't have the same insecurities he and other motards do about needing to 'show off' the US military strength.

Though why Zach hasn't just tried to find a way to go volunteer to fight in Ukraine, if he really wants to see combat that badly, is kinda mystifying.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
Founder
Just because someone “Wants something!” or that it’s “Nothing new to humans!” doesn’t mean their wish should be granted, much less that their judgment is solid. After all, I’m sure quite a few Russian soldiers wanted to launch the War in Ukraine, too, but that sure didn’t make it righteous or excuse any of their behavior.

And again, you still “innocently” gloss over how your desire for war would kill tens (if not hundreds) of millions of people, quite a few of them your fellow servicemen in the event of a land war. Fortunately, I doubt you’re in a position to make that happen, though whoever the next Hitler is, they’re probably someone who actually does want World War III along the lines of what you fantasize.
Because defending Taiwan is all I want to do to show China they can't just force the rest of the world to curtail to thier needs.
Because that's what it would entail in the end. Biden or whoever succeeds him (with the only possible exception of Trump) will send you and your buddies to a new Vietnam. Which in turn means you drag the rest of NATO members , regardless of who shot first, directly or indirectly towards that. And for what ? So that you might have a temporary satellite like Afghanistan where your "supposedly allied" troops of locals can inject or smoke opioids and indulge in stuff like depravity against minors as many the Afghan National Army did under the last three US presidencies?


If his wish is fullfilled The Sietch will be vaporized just like anything east of the Straits. I rather keep the forum alive in the literal sense of the word and not being atomic glass. Frankly no country would go unscathed one way or another.
I mean, should i mention that the only reason we would go to war agaij is vecause China started it and we retaliate?
To be frank, I think we’d be looking at something more akin to World War III with side orders of Afghanistan and Vietnam, if Zach somehow got what he wanted.

Certainly, you’d be looking at draft-dodging and demonstrations at home like we’ve never seen before, as well as mass-mutinies and refusals to fight that threaten to tear the military and broader country apart. At which point, I think even the usual suspects (read: Neocons) would start to distance themselves, when they realize it’s more than just civilians with no say over military affairs who’re rebelling.

Doesn’t help that Zach’s last few posts (and in fact, his posts throughout the years) are so blasé about starting world-ending wars with real consequences for hundreds of millions of real people, either. Really, if you wanted me to show why more Americans distrust the Neocons and their warped sense of judgment so much, @Zachowon is Exhibit A.
I am heavily offended by being called a Neocon.
My domestic policies do not align with thiers.
Zach cannot accept that the US public has no taste for what he wants to have happen, and that his desire to show how 'mighty' the US is just underscores how insecure parts of the US military are about being in peace time after what happened in A-stan.

The US will be supplying weapons to places like Ukraine that need military gear, that's not in doubt, but he really doesn't get that most of the US populace doesn't have the same insecurities he and other motards do about needing to 'show off' the US military strength.

Though why Zach hasn't just tried to find a way to go volunteer to fight in Ukraine, if he really wants to see combat that badly, is kinda mystifying.
Because war is bound to happen, because in all honesty? The sake of our fucking country is on it.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
Because defending Taiwan is all I want to do to show China they can't just force the rest of the world to curtail to thier needs.

I mean, should i mention that the only reason we would go to war agaij is vecause China started it and we retaliate?

I am heavily offended by being called a Neocon.
My domestic policies do not align with thiers.
No Zach, as far as I can tell your domestic policy seems like it is just 'whatever helps the DoD, good; anything else is secondary' and that's about it, and that's pure neocon.

Like maybe you aren't as foolish about some things as the neocons were, like them opposing same-sex marriage or dismissing environmental issues, but in most regards you very much are a neocon, or at least a very good representation of what neocons look like to people on the outside.
Because war is bound to happen, because in all honesty? The sake of our fucking country is on it.
War may be bound to happen somewhere, at some point, and may eventually require the US to go active in a large scale conflict again.

However, short of a direct, acknowledged attack on the US homeland that costs lives, you will not be seeing most of the nation feeling that our nation must engage in large scale conflict again.

Even the CCP attempting something on Taiwan, as much as we are 'bound' to defend it, won't cause a large scale conflict that actually will pull the US populace to your point of view. Partly because Taiwan has enough weapons and plans to ensure any CCP attempt is going to get ground-down and destroyed long before the it becomes any direct threat to the US homeland, and no, Taiwan won't see a draft happen either, so don't bet on being able to force people to fight.

You can try to advocate for the US ramping up arms production to ensure Taiwan has enough munitions to make sure the fight is over before the CCP can even land troops, and more weapons for Ukraine will get approved by most of the populace.

However, wanting to get a large scale conflict going, just to show how 'mighty' the US is, shows how very insecure you and people like you are about being in a peace time military after A-stan. The civilian populace is not as insecure as you are about that sort of thing, and thus isn't trying to find a way to have to 'show it off' to prove anything to anyone.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
Founder
No Zach, as far as I can tell your domestic policy seems like it is just 'whatever helps the DoD, good; anything else is secondary' and that's about it, and that's pure neocon.

Like maybe you aren't as foolish about some things as the neocons were, like them opposing same-sex marriage or dismissing environmental issues, but in most regards you very much are a neocon, or at least a very good representation of what neocons look like to people on the outside.

War may be bound to happen somewhere, at some point, and may eventually require the US to go active in a large scale conflict again.

However, short of a direct, acknowledged attack on the US homeland that costs lives, you will not be seeing most of the nation feeling that our nation must engage in large scale conflict again.

Even the CCP attempting something on Taiwan, as much as we are 'bound' to defend it, won't cause a large scale conflict that actually will pull the US populace to your point of view. Partly because Taiwan has enough weapons and plans to ensure any CCP attempt is going to get ground-down and destroyed long before the it becomes any direct threat to the US homeland, and no, Taiwan won't see a draft happen either, so don't bet on being able to force people to fight.

You can try to advocate for the US ramping up arms production to ensure Taiwan has enough munitions to make sure the fight is over before the CCP can even land troops, and more weapons for Ukraine will get approved by most of the populace.

However, wanting to get a large scale conflict going, just to show how 'mighty' the US is, shows how very insecure you and people like you are about being in a peace time military after A-stan. The civilian populace is not as insecure as you are about that sort of thing, and thus isn't trying to find a way to have to 'show it off' to prove anything to anyone.
Bacle, the only way our country will come back from the brink that we are approaching is a large scale war that we need.

And my domestic policies don't revolve around the DoD
Just the Foreign ones.

And a peacetime military is how we end up losing wars because we lack experience. Something that puts us above China and the biggest of our adversaries.
And if you think Chins will just not attack US Soil or service members tosecure Taiwan.
I have a bridge to sell you
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
Bacle, the only way our country will come back from the brink that we are approaching is a large scale war that we need.
RFK Jr. or DeSantis gutting the deep state and cleaning house can fix a lot more about our nation than a large scale conflict can.

The idea we need a war to 'come back from the brink' shows how little you understand about what has caused so many of our issues.
And my domestic policies don't revolve around the DoD
Just the Foreign ones.
Yes, and from what I've seen, your domestic policies are still neocon.
And a peacetime military is how we end up losing wars because we lack experience. Something that puts us above China and the biggest of our adversaries.
So we are back to 'we need a war for the experience' BS again; do you get this is what makes you sound like a neocon and really undermines other points you want to make, because it shows that the US military wants to cause conflicts, just to prove itself to it's insecure service members.
And if you think Chins will just not attack US Soil or service members tosecure Taiwan.
I have a bridge to sell you
I think an attack on Taiwan that sees US citizens killed is still unlikely to cause what you wish, because Taiwan is not US homeland/soil, and frankly the CCP are unlikely to be able to land on the island unless they are unopposed.

Also, if an attack on Taiwan is imminent, I think many in the US would just say 'get out of Taiwan' if you are a US citizen, instead of wanting people to stay to be martyrs.

As well, I think the CCP going after Siberia, seeing how weak Russia is, has far more chance of happening than cross-straight stuff. Taking Taiwan from a motivated and entrenched defender with US weapons and support would be more costly than taking Port Arthor or Vladivostok from the skeleton defenses the Russians have left in the Far East, and Siberia has far more resources to tap than Taiwan does.

Edit: Only 'large scale' war I could see the US getting involved in, and having decent domestic support, is if Kim does something stupid and actually tries for Seoul or nukes part of Japan. And dealing with the Norks nukes/bunkers is a situation that probably won't take that long, given the size of the nation.
 

Zachowon

The Army Life for me! The POG life for me!
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RFK Jr. or DeSantis gutting the deep state and cleaning house can fix a lot more about our nation than a large scale conflict can.

The idea we need a war to 'come back from the brink' shows how little you understand about what has caused so many of our issues.

Yes, and from what I've seen, your domestic policies are still neocon.

So we are back to 'we need a war for the experience' BS again; do you get this is what makes you sound like a neocon and really undermines other points you want to make, because it shows that the US military wants to cause conflicts, just to prove itself to it's insecure service members.

I think an attack on Taiwan that sees US citizens killed is still unlikely to cause what you wish, because Taiwan is not US homeland/soil, and frankly the CCP are unlikely to be able to land on the island unless they are unopposed.

Also, if an attack on Taiwan is imminent, I think many in the US would just say 'get out of Taiwan' if you are a US citizen, instead of wanting people to stay to be martyrs.

As well, I think the CCP going after Siberia, seeing how weak Russia is, has far more chance of happening than cross-straight stuff. Taking Taiwan from a motivated and entrenched defender with US weapons and support would be more costly than taking Port Arthor or Vladivostok from the skeleton defenses the Russians have left in the Far East, and Siberia has far more resources to tap than Taiwan does.

Edit: Only 'large scale' war I could see the US getting involved in, and having decent domestic support, is if Kim does something stupid and actually tries for Seoul or nukes part of Japan. And dealing with the Norks nukes/bunkers is a situation that probably won't take that long, given the size of the nation.
Bacle, them winning doesn't mean shit when the nation is heavily divided.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
Bacle, them winning doesn't mean shit when the nation is heavily divided.
They can help fix that divide far more than war can.

The problems plaguing the US are not problem that can be solved by distracting people with a war, or by trying to use war-time powers to force unity.

The only healing that will truly mend the societal rifts in the US is the kinda that comes from dealing with the domestic issues as they are honestly and without any PR spin from any side.

You cannot enforce unity and loyalty, even if you threaten a draft, as I know you expect to be able to utilize.

Then again, I guess good old southern boys have never had a problem seeking to enforce a type of slavery on their fellow man.

Edit: Let's not mince words, the 'unity' you seek in war is the type granted by war-time draft powers and forcing people into 'service', while also looking for an excuse to paper over domestic issues with war-time restrictions on freedom of speech.
 

King Arts

Well-known member
What are you guys being pissy about. @Zachowon you are angry at being called a neocon because you disagree with their domestic policy? But they don’t have a domestic policy neocons are all about foreign intervention they are willing to accept any side of the political aisle as long as that side agrees to foreign war. Look at Bush they supported moderate conservative policies in the homeland now under Biden they support drag queen story time.
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
Founder

tl;dw: China being China.

Self-reliance? Yeah, no, it's just China stealing and reverse-engineering/laser-etching old Intel chips without the knowledge behind them, as always.

All those people who say that CCP-China aren't thieving bastards incapable of doing things on their own? I laugh at you.
 
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