United States Texas shooting: Fifteen killed in attack on US Elementary School

So Representative Kevin McCarthy, the current minority leader of Congressional Republicans, suggested a solution to prevent a horrific shooting like this from ever occurring again. Is it to add more security systems to our schools? Allow cities to deputize citizens who are willing to protect our children and their schools? Give states a budgetary increase in their mental health services? No. It instead is to reduce the number of doors in our schools.

So less doors is part of a good plan. Just not enough on its own.

Sure you need plenty of fire exits. You can make those doors one way.

But access control is a huge part of security you have one entrance and then you only need one guard. It's far easier to lock down one entrance.

This would be effective as part of a comprehensive plan.
 
So less doors is part of a good plan. Just not enough on its own.

Sure you need plenty of fire exits. You can make those doors one way.

But access control is a huge part of security you have one entrance and then you only need one guard. It's far easier to lock down one entrance.

This would be effective as part of a comprehensive plan.
My issue with this is that it's just going to make the problem worse, not because the idea is wrong per say; access control is a big part of security as you mentioned. I just don't think the current paradigm for SROs and dedicated security in schools would be able to adapt. BEFORE we put something like this in place, we need to up the training and, more importantly, the follow through for security procedures already in place. The school already had security systems and personnel that failed utterly at their purpose. That failure needs to be addressed before we ever get to redesigning school buildings.

Or, you know, stop substituting parenting with publicly funded indoctrination facilities.
 
My issue with this is that it's just going to make the problem worse, not because the idea is wrong per say; access control is a big part of security as you mentioned. I just don't think the current paradigm for SROs and dedicated security in schools would be able to adapt. BEFORE we put something like this in place, we need to up the training and, more importantly, the follow through for security procedures already in place. The school already had security systems and personnel that failed utterly at their purpose. That failure needs to be addressed before we ever get to redesigning school buildings.

Or, you know, stop substituting parenting with publicly funded indoctrination facilities.
None of this is wrong. But we can start putting one way locks on doors right now, and there's no good reason not to.
 
People keep talking about the price of the guns forget that he likely never was gonna pay any debt he got into to buy them.

A better question ia how he got the gun ao fast after turning 18...
I mean I know people who turn 18 and go buy guns
 
Sure. But from what I heare there wasn't a local shop to Uvadale with the guns he had. He would have ordered them from other places. And they got there surprisingly fast...
That's the one thing that isn't surprising. He had a vehicle, he could drive to get it.
 
Sure. But from what I heare there wasn't a local shop to Uvadale with the guns he had. He would have ordered them from other places. And they got there surprisingly fast...
As Roc said.
He has a truck, and it's Yexas...
 



So not only did the police stop the parents from protecting their children they held back border patrol agents other law enforcement from stopping this.

This no longer incompetence this is malice, and it also completely destroys the gun grabbers argument because if the police not only wont protect people but also gleefully enable the murder of your children. You have to do it yourself.
 
Starting to look like Uvadale wasn't just some sleepy small town...

Uvalde is midway between Del Rio, TX and San Antonio and also between Piedras Negras and San Antonio. It's a main stop in drug smuggling and human trafficking.
 
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@Aaron Fox
People used to bring guns to school all the time - there used to be shooting sports for crying out loud. This during a time when it was far easier to purchase a firearm. There were not these mass shootings back then, yet after decades of gun control measures and restrictions, we have them now. What's different between back then and now? Hint - it's not access to guns, because it was way easier to get a hold of one back then.
That is rather disingenuous and you know it. There has been enough time between then and now to make 'casual' searches to find incidents impossible, let alone any possible 'scrubbing' to fit a narrative...
 
That is rather disingenuous and you know it. There has been enough time between then and now to make 'casual' searches to find incidents impossible, let alone any possible 'scrubbing' to fit a narrative...

Ok that's bullshit incidents put into the paper get put into mircrofice to save them. Most colleges have decades of news paper in microfiche that shit doesn't just vanish.
 
That is rather disingenuous and you know it. There has been enough time between then and now to make 'casual' searches to find incidents impossible, let alone any possible 'scrubbing' to fit a narrative...
What the hell are you smoking? If there were actually a history of school shootings back when shooting sports were still offered in school you can be damn sure the anti-gun lobby would be trotting them out to attack the pro-gun side. There would be books, articles, and videos screaming about how this is a hundred year old issue that evil republicans have defended to kill more children or some nonsense.

The question you should be asking is, "what was it about that time that there were less school shootings?". Answer: less single parent homes, more personal responsibility, and a stronger more unified populous.

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Ok that's bullshit incidents put into the paper get put into mircrofice to save them. Most colleges have decades of news paper in microfiche that shit doesn't just vanish.
Not to mention the many, many projects dedicated to converting it all to digital format via OCR. Which then gets ingested into searchable databases.
 

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