Arlos
Sad Monarchist
Fair enough, probably made worse by Russian air supremacy.
Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022
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King Arts
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NATO would not get involved but if Romania, Hungary, and Poland did move to occupy those areas and had an under the table understanding with Russia to not contest those areas and they publicly say they are providing a cordon of security to refugees trying to escape Russia. NATO would not kick them out, there might be harsh words reminding them that Poland made similar mistakes in the Czech crisis with Germany and to be careful.
Floridaman
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seems Russia is rather confident about the current state of the conflict.
Eparkhos
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Armed Forces of Ukraine Repel Russian Army Attacks Throughout Country
Operational and tactical groups of Ukrainian troops are conducting defensive battles in all directions of enemy advance
www.promoteukraine.org
Lot to go through:
- The Ukrainians claim to hold Shchastya and have repulsed Russian/LPR offensive, meaning that the LPR can't even secure 27km north of its own capital (yet)
- Russo-Belarussian offensive through Vystupovychi, west of Chernobyl, has allegedly been halted with R-Br armor losses
- U inflicting heavy R armor and personnel losses around Kharkiv
- Russians have landed on Zmiyinyi Island, near Romanian territorial waters. I don't see why they're sending forces here on the 1st day, it's more mop-up material. Might explain Turkish ship incident.
I don't think the Russians are close enough to taking the country yet to make such demands, but maybe I'll be proven wrong, we'll see.
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
Battalion group defending the land bridge was overrun and it will be difficult to bring reinforcements from other parts of country due to being engaged and Russian air control.
Arlos
Sad Monarchist
I am actually doubtful the Russian are trying to push through Donbass; the established frontline actually keep a lot of Ukrainian troops stuck here, where they are easy to cut off, the fact that Russian are pushing hard towards Marioupole rather than North comfort me in this idea, afterall, who want to attack a place that has been fortified for 8 years if they can avoid it?Armed Forces of Ukraine Repel Russian Army Attacks Throughout Country
Operational and tactical groups of Ukrainian troops are conducting defensive battles in all directions of enemy advance
Lot to go through:
- The Ukrainians claim to hold Shchastya and have repulsed Russian/LPR offensive, meaning that the LPR can't even secure 27km north of its own capital (yet)
- Russo-Belarussian offensive through Vystupovychi, west of Chernobyl, has allegedly been halted with R-Br armor losses
- U inflicting heavy R armor and personnel losses around Kharkiv
- Russians have landed on Zmiyinyi Island, near Romanian territorial waters. I don't see why they're sending forces here on the 1st day, it's more mop-up material. Might explain Turkish ship incident.
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Floridaman
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Don’t disagree, just sharing as it pops into my feed.
You mean back in 1938?
Ten-minute old report from DPA, Russians in complete control of Henichesk and Kherson Raions, implying they've crossed the Dnieper at at least one point.
Russian forces take control of southern Ukrainian regions ｜ DPA
Ukrainian authorities say they have lost control over parts of the country's south. The Kherson and Henichesk regions are no longer under Ukrainian control, according to local officials. President Volodymyr Zelensky referred to a difficult situation in the south of the country, but did not give...nordot.app
Floridaman
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Go around the fortifications, how very German of them. But yeah my guess is the goal is a pincer maneuver from Belarus and crimea to split east and west Ukraine at which point Russia can either starve them or squeeze the pocket.
King Arts
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Yup Germany was not the only nation to take a bite out of the Czechs.You mean back in 1938?
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
I think the real question now is how long before Ukrainian soldiers start throwing off their uniforms and blending in with the civilian population for an insurgency.
Agent23
Ни шагу назад!
I am tempted to make this my avatar!You mean back in 1938?
Floridaman
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Domestically Russia has a few problems, namely an aging populace. By doing this he gets more defensible borders, more people and keeps NATO off his door step since his new demand is Ukraine completely demilitarize. And beyond that why wouldn’t he, the west is weak so if this is the best chance to take something, why not do it?
Floridaman
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They probably won’t, the Russians are unfortunately very good at that style of fighting compare their experienice in Chechnya With us in Iraq, we try to find the specific insurgent, they flatten the village the insurgent is hiding in so the next town refuses to hide them.
Agent23
Ни шагу назад!
Google "Why is Ukraine the west's fault" a video by Realist political scientist John Mearsheimer.
Coach Redpill had a good summary why the war started, I summarized them earlier in the thread.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
Well I don't think the Ukrainian military is going to last longer than by the end the week realistically, Like even if their morale is 110% they are going to start running out of shells bullets and fuel soon.