Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022

Tiamat

I've seen the future...
From a military POV, I'd say the Ukrainians may be trading space for time. I am not 100% sure of this, and the landing at Antonov airport along the Kiev ring road certainly is a pain in the arse for the Ukrainians to deal with. But, so far, I don't see any signs of general Ukrainian
collapse.

Trading space for time.

Getting some weird “cold war gone hot Fulda Gap” vibes there.
 

Batrix2070

RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
I wonder if Euro countries will be more willing to increase defense spending now that till the last American life doesn't seem viable any longer.
It's less about money but how it's managed, because Germany with its defense policy even with the US budget wouldn't fix it because frankly their army is strong on paper.
The French Army is only ready for colonial pacification of their non-colonies. In a real fight they would lose even to the Czechs. The old EU simply has to switch back to a classical army and not an expeditionary force.
 

Wargamer08

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Anything out of Sleepy Joe yet? Pretty much every major power has rejected immediate intervention except the US at this point, though I don't think I've head anything from France.
 

BlackDragon98

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Banned - Politics
The push from Crimea is having the most progress.

Surprisingly large number of Russian POWs.

Russian advance from the north and east is facing heavy opposition.

If I were Putin, I'd push from Crimea, forcing them to redeploy and then hit from the North and East.
 

Batrix2070

RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
I don't think I've head anything from France.
If I remember correctly, a Polish analyst, while presenting the Polish army of the future, said that in fact they can send two or three battalions to Poland within 48 hours. You would have to wait two or three months for a division. By that time the fun will be over.
Surprisingly large number of Russian POWs.
They have been like this for a long time, already in the Polish-Bolshevik war a whole bunch of them were able to surrender to us even when they were attacking and winning. The other thing is that the Ukrainians are most likely to increase their numbers. Anyway, it doesn't matter, if Russians take them back anyway.
 

Floridaman

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Then they can act passive aggressive about it with futile measures as Putin thumbs his noses at them.
To be fair that is what we will do as well, the procedure since the Cold War as I said was no direct conflict between nuclear powers... unfortunately for Ukraine this was inevitable ever since they were dumb enough to return the Soviet nukes and take a promise that they would be protected in the event of war.
 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
To be fair that is what we will do as well, the procedure since the Cold War as I said was no direct conflict between nuclear powers... unfortunately for Ukraine this was inevitable ever since they were dumb enough to return the Soviet nukes and take a promise that they would be protected in the event of war.
Big mistake for them.
 

Floridaman

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They have been like this for a long time, already in the Polish-Bolshevik war a whole bunch of them were able to surrender to us even when they were attacking and winning. The other thing is that the Ukrainians are most likely to increase their numbers. Anyway, it doesn't matter, if Russians take them back anyway.
Even if you are winning why fight if it isn’t a cause you care about?
 

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