China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Aldarion

Aldarion

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Bassoe said:
Think of it from their view, what're they going to do if they've won and sterilized everyone who believed their propaganda that the vaccination was necessary. How is making it so that the sole criteria for reproductive success is distrusting the system supposed to help the system?
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Don't worry about their lack of slaves. They will always have more immigrants from Africa to import. A society where more than cca 10-25% of people are of different ethnic, let alone racial, persuasion, cannot function. So if the goal is a dysfunctional society, flash-immigration justified by something is a perfect solution.
 
BlackDragon98

BlackDragon98

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Bassoe said:
What would the point of a conspiracy to make vaccinations that secretly sterilized people be? The rising cost of raising children already has first worlder populations below replacement rates without the addition of foreigners, there's no reason for the elites to risk everything on such a conspiracy to accomplish results they're getting anyway from unrelated causes.
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Have you ever watched the movie Idiocracy by any chance?
 
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Sir 1000

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Megadeath said:
Greetings comrade!

You might need to explain this a whole lot more. How on earth would any secret sterilisation effort have any effect whatsoever on the vanishingly small likelihood of trump getting re-elected?
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Maybe not specifically trump, but the left is undoubtedly angry at his supporters and don't want to risk a repeat. The people who called for lists of his supporters are many of the same people pro vaccine. It's not in tinfoil land to imagine something diabolical could be in the vaccine. Especially when the us government has a proven history of putting bad things in people and lieing about it. For instance the syhphillis and lsd experiments, also the polio ''vaccinne'' that had cancer causing elements. All of which had numerous medical professionals and institutions keep quiet on the governments behalf. I can completely understand the reluctance by certain people.
 
Husky_Khan

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Bhutan vaccinates 93 percent of adults in 16 days

THIMPU, Bhutan — When plotted on a graph, the curve of Bhutan’s COVID-19 vaccination drive shoots upwards from the very first day, crossing Israel, the United States, Bahrain and other countries kn…
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Bhutan, the small Buddhist Kingdom nestled between China and India, surpassed all of those lesser countries like Israel and the Seychelles in vaccinating a large proportion of its 800,000 citizens.

Since the Chinese pandemic started just over 900 Bhutanese have been infected with the Wuflu with one death.
 
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ATP

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Bassoe said:
What would the point of a conspiracy to make vaccinations that secretly sterilized people be? The rising cost of raising children already has first worlder populations below replacement rates without the addition of foreigners, there's no reason for the elites to risk everything on such a conspiracy to accomplish results they're getting anyway from unrelated causes.
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radical Greens really belive that there are too many humans and only 5-10% should survive,but.. world is ruled by oligarchs who belived only in themselves,not some green fairy tales.
They would not depopulate Eath,unless they thought that it is best way for them to keep power.
Which...is kind of explanation.
Imagine world,where 10% op population survived to live as serfs ,where green priests brainwash them to belive that all is good,when rich oligarchs and their families live in clean nice palaces with modern technology.

It...could worked.I remember some series of dystopian novels where rich people monopolized technology and was warshipped as gods by surviving humans who lived with medieval technology.Well,there were remnants of christian who knew truth,but nobody belived them.
Unfortunatelly,i forget both title and author.
 
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Jormungandr

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Remember when people were calling people like myself, who weren't willing to take a vaccine that'd only had a two year development time, 'anti-vaxxors' because we weren't willing to have an unstable, alpha-development bio-tech product injected into our veins?

Yeah.

"Oh, but the side-effects are like a million-to-one chance of happening! You have a better chance of dying from an allergy or XXX!"

Yeah, point is they shouldn't happen at all because the vaccines haven't been fully tested.
 
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Vaermina

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Jormungandr said:
Remember when people were calling people like myself, who weren't willing to take a vaccine that'd only had a two year development time, 'anti-vaxxors' because we weren't willing to have an unstable, alpha-development bio-tech product injected into our veins?

Yeah.

"Oh, but the side-effects are like a million-to-one chance of happening! You have a better chance of dying from an allergy or XXX!"

Yeah, point is they shouldn't happen at all because the vaccines haven't been fully tested.
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The Johnson and Johnson vaccine is a standard inactivated virus type vaccine, not one of the new RNA vaccines...
 
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Vaermina

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Jormungandr said:
And yet it's still causing blood clots in people... which said types of vaccines aren't supposed to do, to my layman's knowledge. That makes it even worse!
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And that's your problem here.

One in a million reactions are always a risk with vaccines, and they happen because it's literally impossible to test for them because they happen to people with super super outlier and even completely unknown conditions.
 
Jormungandr

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Vaermina said:
And that's your problem here.

One in a million reactions are always a risk with vaccines, and they happen because it's literally impossible to test for them because they happen to people with super super outlier and even completely unknown conditions.
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Those vaccines were developed and tested over the period of a decade and a half minimum, though. Any potential side-effects would be discovered during that time. Several vaccines and bio-tech products were pretty much axed after years of development and billions in research spent because of the possibility of a few side-effects, like the one the COVID vaccines are presenting.

The COVID vaccines were rushed out in a stage I wouldn't even call alpha, and all these side-effects that would have been picked up, possibly ironed out, solved, or have the vaccines themselves scrapped and restarted, would have been dealt with one way or another, if they'd have been like others with longer development times.

As a result, you have vaccines with mechanisms that should be relatively safe causing side-effects that shouldn't exist, had they been developed properly.

It's literally like half-designing a new car based on prior design fundementals, half-assing the assembly in a rush to capitalize on a market, and then having a ShockedPikachuFace when a small number of them explode because the design is unstable/unfinished.
 
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Vaermina

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Jormungandr said:
Those vaccines were developed and tested over the period of a decade and a half minimum, though. Any potential side-effects would be discovered during that time. Several vaccines and bio-tech products were pretty much axed after years of development and billions in research spent because of the possibility of a few side-effects, like the one the COVID vaccines are presenting.

The COVID vaccines were rushed out in a stage I wouldn't even call alpha, and all these side-effects that would have been picked up, possibly ironed out, solved, or have the vaccines themselves scrapped and restarted, would have been dealt with one way or another, if they'd have been like others with longer development times.

As a result, you have vaccines with mechanisms that should be relatively safe causing side-effects that shouldn't exist, had they been developed properly.

It's literally like half-designing a new car based on prior design fundementals, half-assing the assembly in a rush to capitalize on a market, and then having a ShockedPikachuFace when a small number of them explode because the design is unstable/unfinished.
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No actually, they aren't.

The average Flu vaccine has just around a year of development, that's how they can push out a new one each year.

And no, they weren't.

The vaccines that end up axed are one's with one in a couple thousand side effects, the one's with one a million side effects get warning labels slapped on them and put to market.
 
Bacle

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With the J&J vaccine, it's not just the clots; they had to recall a lot of doses because of manufacturing/quality control issues.

Doesn't matter how safe a vaccine should theoretically be, if the quality control on the production line is not catching things it should.
 
Zachowon

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And again, things like this happen, people are just going crazy because "GOVERNMENT TRYING TO CONTROL US!"
 
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Vaermina

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Bacle said:
With the J&J vaccine, it's not just the clots; they had to recall a lot of doses because of manufacturing/quality control issues.

Doesn't matter how safe a vaccine should theoretically be, if the quality control on the production line is not catching things it should.
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No, they didn't, those particular doses never even advanced to filling and finishing stages before a halt was put to production in that factory.
 
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Vaermina

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Honestly, if there's complaints to be made, they are about the Chinese vaccine's being shipped to the rest of the world.

apnews.com

Top Chinese official admits vaccines have low effectiveness

BEIJING (AP) — China’s top disease control official, in a rare acknowledgement, said current vaccines offer low protection against the coronavirus and mixing them is among strategies being considered to boost their effectiveness.
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Because they have an efficacy rate of 50-79%, which means they are almost next to useless.
 
DarthOne

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Vaermina said:
Honestly, if there's complaints to be made, they are about the Chinese vaccine's being shipped to the rest of the world.

apnews.com

Top Chinese official admits vaccines have low effectiveness

BEIJING (AP) — China’s top disease control official, in a rare acknowledgement, said current vaccines offer low protection against the coronavirus and mixing them is among strategies being considered to boost their effectiveness.
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Because they have an efficacy rate of 50-79%, which means they are almost next to useless.
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Well, what else do you expect from 'Made in China'?
 
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