China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

[Bacle]

No Bacle.
You are literally sounding so fucking crazy right now.

And I can assure you. You are batshit insane about this one.

Maybe take a step back from acting like people who have these fears are insane, and start asking why these fears are there to begin with.

Because these fears are not shrinking in the public, they are growing because of how this virus and gov handling of it, and because of the way this virus and the vaccine have been treated in the political, social, and corporate spheres.

I can assure you I, and many others who share these fears, would be happy to be proven wrong regarding those fears.

Whether we are wrong or not however is something only time will tell.

 

[Zachowon]

Maybe take a step back from acting like people who have these fears are insane, and start asking why these fears are there to begin with.

Because these fears are not shrinking in the public, they are growing because of how this virus and gov handling of it, and because of the way this virus and the vaccine have been treated in the political, social, and corporate spheres.

I can assure you I, and many others who share these fears, would be happy to be proven wrong regarding those fears.

Whether we are wrong or not however is something only time will tell.

Only two people have given me thier feelings about these fears. You and my bat shit insane sister in law

 

[Bacle]

Only two people have given me thier feelings about these fears. You and my bat shit insane sister in law

You don't spend much time on Twitter or Facebook, do you?

 

[Zachowon]

You don't spend much time on Twitter or Facebook, do you?

No.
Because I'm not crazy

 

[BlackDragon98]

The vaccines were inadequately tested and rushed into production.
As well, their effectiveness is being eroded by all the new variants of Corona that are popping up all over the place like a bad case of acne I once had.

Things that aren't tested adequately and then rushed into production always screw up initially.
M-16 "self-cleaning" rifle, Panzer V Panther, etc.
The list is long and the butcher's bill is longer.

A bunch of people dying from these vaccines are to be expected, regardless if they've been filled with sterilizers or whatever else.
The government can screw you over easily if they really wanted to and they've done so in the past before; multiple times.

It's time to accept that the nightmarish dystopias featured in various novels are no longer fiction, but reality.
Now it's just a matter of how bad things will get before this nightmare is over.

After all, everything has a beginning and an end.
When the dust settles and the corpses are cleared away, life will go back to normal again.
Except the survivors are going to be a bit wealthier than before.
Just take a look at the aftermath of the Black Death.

 

[Bacle]

No.
Because I'm not crazy

Spending time on Twitter or Facebook does not make one crazy.

But it seems calling me crazy, or batshit, or a moron is your go-to now when I say things you don't agree with, or think things you do not agree with.

The vaccines were inadequately tested and rushed into production.
As well, their effectiveness is being eroded by all the new variants of Corona that are popping up all over the place like a bad case of acne I once had.

Things that aren't tested adequately and then rushed into production always screw up initially.
M-16 "self-cleaning" rifle, Panzer V Panther, etc.
The list is long and the butcher's bill is longer.

A bunch of people dying from these vaccines are to be expected, regardless if they've been filled with sterilizers or whatever else.
The government can screw you over easily if they really wanted to and they've done so in the past before; multiple times.

It's time to accept that the nightmarish dystopias featured in various novels are no longer fiction, but reality.
Now it's just a matter of how bad things will get before this nightmare is over.

After all, everything has a beginning and an end.
When the dust settles and the corpses are cleared away, life will go back to normal again.
Except the survivors are going to be a bit wealthier than before.
Just take a look at the aftermath of the Black Death.

Yep, we are headed for cyberpunk dystopian futures, what vareity and how bad it gets are the only real questions left.

A lot on the Right haven't been able to accept that yet.

 

[BlackDragon98]

Yep, we are headed for cyberpunk dystopian futures, what vareity and how bad it gets are the only real questions left.

Have you ever read the comic series called "Lazarus" by Greg Rucka and Micheal Lark?
Because that's where we're going AFAIKS.
Hock flu is already here.
I just hope that it's the Trump family who takes over North America, because alternatives are too horrible to imagine.

A lot on the Right haven't been able to accept that yet.

Truth, my friend. Such is our naivety.

 

[Bacle]

Have you ever read the comic series called "Lazarus" by Greg Rucka and Micheal Lark?
Because that's where we're going AFAIKS.
Hock flu is already here.
I just hope that it's the Trump family who takes over North America, because alternatives are too horrible to imagine.

No I have not.

Personally I expect it to be more like Ghost in the Shell tech/global political issues mixed with corporate warfare/servitude like in Demolition Man/Ready Player One.

Of course it could also look like Crysis or 1984 as well.

Truth, my friend. Such is our naivety.

I don't think it's just naivety.

I think there is a lot of denial on the Right about the fundamental changes tech has brought about in the last century, how that tech is likely to evolve in the future, the effects of tech/society on the environment, and an unwillingness to accept the the Left is not stupid, not always wrong, and that history doesn't operates in 'cycles'.

As one person I saw on Twitter put it:
"Facts don't care about your feelings" was a recent big lie of conservatism because it suggested that reason and truth would win if they were simply heard.

At least Lauren Southern had the guts to admit what the Left already understood; feelings don't care much about facts.

I mean with regards to the virus and such, I would think there are better ways to approach people skeptical of vaccines and/or skeptical of the entire situation because of how it has evolved/been handled by so many powerful groups, rather than just insulting those people.

I mean the article about how 'we need a lockdown every other year to fight climate change' that came out a while back seems to have been completely forgotten by people like Zach when he calls people like me crazy for thinking the virus and vaccines might be part of a larger plan.

The virus may have gotten out accidentally in Wuhan itself, but the way things evolved after that...it seems more and more like the elite decided the had to act, and now, to make the most of the accident to further thier agendas. Trump forced them to drop the mask on many things, showed how many people are able to see through the globalist BS, and then when the virus got loose, the globalist and Dems saw a perfect time to act.

 

[BlackDragon98]

Personally I expect it to be more like Ghost in the Shell tech/global political issues mixed with corporate warfare/servitude like in Demolition Man/Ready Player One.

The tech in Lazarus is similar to Ghost in the Shell to a degree.
And the rulers in Lazarus are powerful family owned mega-corporations that replaced governments after their failure to fix problems, leading to a quasi futuristic feudal society.

 

[Bacle]

The tech in Lazarus is similar to Ghost in the Shell to a degree.
And the rulers in Lazarus are powerful family owned mega-corporations that replaced governments after their failure to fix problems, leading to a quasi futuristic feudal society.

That sounds like what I've heard about Crysis.

Personally if that's the way things are going to go, I'll swear fealty to Elon Musk and SpaceX. At least that way I'll get a funny, meme'ing, legit mad lad as my sovereign.

 

[Bacle]

@Zachowon

You want to see evidence of why people think the virus and vaccines might be part of a bigger plan by global elites; here's a good example that I posted in this very thread not that long ago.

And the mask has slipped. Now what some have suspected for months is being publicly discussed. The lockdowns aren't being done for safety concerns anymore, and may never truly have been about that.

That doesn't even touch the World Economic Forum's 'Great Reset' goal/plan/idea.

The virus release might not have been intentional, but the actions afterward by China, the Dems, and globalist forces are those of people looking make sure this crisis didn't go to waste and that they get any power they can from it.

 

[Bacle]

J&J vaccine ‘paused’ after adverse reactions at Georgia site

Georgia health officials say they’re temporarily stopping vaccinations of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine at one site in north Georgia after eight people Wednesday had “adverse reactions.”

www.kktv.com

Oh, yeah, people skeptical about the vaccines are totally 'crazy'.

 

[StormEagle]

Only two people have given me thier feelings about these fears. You and my bat shit insane sister in law

You know, just repeatedly calling him crazy, insane, or some other synonym isn’t actually an argument.

 

[Bacle]

It's started...

 

[Megadeath]

J&J vaccine ‘paused’ after adverse reactions at Georgia site

Georgia health officials say they’re temporarily stopping vaccinations of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine at one site in north Georgia after eight people Wednesday had “adverse reactions.”

www.kktv.com

Oh, yeah, people skeptical about the vaccines are totally 'crazy'.

Being concerned to a degree about specific vaccines doesn't make a person crazy. Entertaining the idea that the outbreak, lock downs and vaccines are part of some gigantic international conspiracy in which every major government including China and Russia, and several major companies, plus whichever billionaire bad guys have all agreed to participate in total secrecy for the sake of population control/environmentalism does however.

It's started...

And what's wrong with the exercise of freedom of association? Hell, if a worker contracts covid and everyone they've interacted with needs quarantine/testing, that's pretty much guaranteed to force the business to close. Seems perfectly reasonable to try and protect their business, the employees and the customers.

 

[Zachowon]

You know, just repeatedly calling him crazy, insane, or some other synonym isn’t actually an argument.

I know, but I also know there is nothing I can do to change his mind.

It's started...

Can't you just say you have, even if you havnt because vaccine is protected by law since it is medical

 

[Bacle]

Being concerned to a degree about specific vaccines doesn't make a person crazy. Entertaining the idea that the outbreak, lock downs and vaccines are part of some gigantic international conspiracy in which every major government including China and Russia, and several major companies, plus whichever billionaire bad guys have all agreed to participate in total secrecy for the sake of population control/environmentalism does however.

As I said, the cynic in me thinks that because of how things have evolved.

Look at what I posted from Tim Pool, then tell me there's no reason to think there might be things going on related to this bug behind the curtain.

As I said, I'd be happy to be wrong here.

And what's wrong with the exercise of freedom of association? Hell, if a worker contracts covid and everyone they've interacted with needs quarantine/testing, that's pretty much guaranteed to force the business to close. Seems perfectly reasonable to try and protect their business, the employees and the customers.

Because it is a private entity demanding personal health info as mandatory.

They ( fitness centers) don't do that for other normal vaccines (i.e. measles, mumps, tetanus, HPV), but are demanding it for the Wu Flu.

You don't see the issue there?

I know, but I also know there is nothing I can do to change his mind.

Have you even looked at what I posted from Tim Pool, or looked at the World Economic Forum stuff that came out after the lockdowns and such went into effect?

Because most of your attempts to convince me have boiled down to basically 'dude, I'm an intel analyst, trust me', while I have repeated provided links and evidence of why I think there is more to this situation.

Then at a certain point it just became you insulting me on this issue, while I tried to show you evidence.

Personally I think you are laying issues with your sister-in-law onto me, after what you said earlier.

Can't you just say you have, even if you havnt because vaccine is protected by law since it is medical

I don't think so; you get paperwork with your vaccine.

There is actually a growing black market for 'fake vaccine papers' online now, for people who want to avoid the vaccine but not deal with bullshit restrictions anymore.

 

[StormEagle]

Being concerned to a degree about specific vaccines doesn't make a person crazy. Entertaining the idea that the outbreak, lock downs and vaccines are part of some gigantic international conspiracy in which every major government including China and Russia, and several major companies, plus whichever billionaire bad guys have all agreed to participate in total secrecy for the sake of population control/environmentalism does however.


And what's wrong with the exercise of freedom of association? Hell, if a worker contracts covid and everyone they've interacted with needs quarantine/testing, that's pretty much guaranteed to force the business to close. Seems perfectly reasonable to try and protect their business, the employees and the customers.

Leftists and liberals shouldn’t be pretending to give a fuck about right of association or businesses at this stage.

1. Guys on your side were the ones talking about mostly peaceful protests and how insurance would cover any burnt down business or homes.

Your side also subjected this country to a lockdown that was supposed to last two weeks to flatten the curve, and then turned it into a lockdown dragging on for months.

Putting god knows how many small businesses under while allowing the larger corporations to operate almost unimpeded in comparison.

Your side has almost singlehandedly overseen one of the most obscene wealth transfers from the middle class to the already wealthy corporatists that this country has seen since the Gilded Age.

So let’s cut the shit, and not pretend that your side actually give a fuck about smaller businesses.

2. The left has never cared about the right of people to freely associate. They only ever bring it up when it’s their political enemies being put against the metaphorical wall.

3. A business has no right to my private medical data. They have no right to demand that I hand over medical documentation to prove that I have been vaccinated.

Besides that, I will not be brow beaten and bullied by anyone, government or business, into putting something into my body.

The fact that leftists are alright with this, when in other cases they preach endlessly about bodily autonomy, merely proves their hypocrisy.

 

[Zachowon]

As I said, the cynic in me thinks that because of how things have evolved.

Look at what I posted from Tim Pool, then tell me there's no reason to think there might be things going on related to this bug behind the curtain.

As I said, I'd be happy to be wrong here.
Because it is a private entity demanding personal health info as mandatory.

They ( fitness centers) don't do that for other normal vaccines (i.e. measles, mumps, tetanus, HPV), but are demanding it for the Wu Flu.

You don't see the issue there?
Have you even looked at what I posted from Tim Pool, or looked at the World Economic Forum stuff that came out after the lockdowns and such went into effect?

Because most of your attempts to convince me have boiled down to basically 'dude, I'm an intel analyst, trust me', while I have repeated provided links and evidence of why I think there is more to this situation.

Then at a certain point it just became you insulting me on this issue, while I tried to show you evidence.

Personally I think you are laying issues with your sister-in-law onto me, after what you said earlier.
I don't think so; you get paperwork with your vaccine.

There is actually a growing black market for 'fake vaccine papers' online now, for people who want to avoid the vaccine but not deal with bullshit restrictions anymore.

So...
You are throwing in the towel already..

 

[Bacle]

So...
You are throwing in the towel already..

You need to be specific here as to what 'towel' you are referring to.